I’d argue if you are speaking on the sharpness of an item it would be implied that they are supposed to be sharp. “Sharpest tool in the shed” discounts the hammer you have in there as useless when it just might not be the right tool for the job but it implies the need for a sharp tool currently.
I was only commenting on them not understanding how it’s implied that all the pencils in the box should be sharp. The fact that the overall comeback is not fully thought through never came up. I never mentioned the condition of a new vs used tool. My point was that the quote is pointed to imply he should be sharp and not dull in this situation so everything else he’s compared to would presumably be sharp. I don’t know where you thought I had missed or implied otherwise, all around I don’t know what you’re on about.
Sometimes I rather enjoy working for boomers. My boss will just light up a cigarette in the shop, we rag on eachother constantly and joke about hanging ourselves from the rafters.
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tetris11@feddit.uk · 108 pts · 10h
The c-section baby line is pretty smooth have to admit
Klear@piefed.world · 77 pts · 9h
urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe · 6 pts · 5h
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-mind
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 3h
Nevermind
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 34m
Don't mind
village604@adultswim.fan · 26 pts · 10h
That's not how pencils work
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 9h
It is, in a way that's recognizable as a metaphor.
village604@adultswim.fan · -12 pts · 8h
But it's not. Pencils have to be resharpened when they're used, so a sharp point doesn't inherently mean it's never been used for work.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 7h
But then you'd see the pencil being shorter, but adding that is too long for a quip.
Remind me of the classic: "There are two types of people on the world, those who can extrapolate from incomplete information."
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 6h
eheheheheh
village604@adultswim.fan · -4 pts · 3h
This isn't a case of extrapolating from incomplete information. The premise of the comeback metaphor is fundamentally flawed.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 8h
A dull pencil definitely has though. Sharp pencil could be a worker but could be a total poser.
village604@adultswim.fan · -1 pts · 4h
Exactly, so the metaphor doesn't hold up. The sharp pencil could be either.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 7h
Look at you, dull but not smart either!
All metaphors do break down eventually.
village604@adultswim.fan · -1 pts · 4h
But this one breaks down with very little scrutiny. A sharp point doesn't mean it's never been used.
Have you never worked because you woke up not feeling exhausted?
Zoot@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 3h
Got a better metaphor off the top of your head?
village604@adultswim.fan · -2 pts · 3h
No, because of how tools work. The whole premise of the comeback is flawed.
Zoot@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 2h
So maybe stop analyzing it so hard core and trying to ruin a very common phrase, and come up with one yourself instead :)
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 8 pts · 9h
Yeah; if they're still in the box, they've not yet been sharpened.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 8h
That depends entirely on what pencils you buy.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 8h
The actual box that is being talked about isn't the one you buy them in, it's the one you store them in. A pencil case.
It's like saying not the sharpest knife in the drawer, or tool in the shed.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 5h
Looking kinda dumb
PwnTra1n@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 9h
I’d argue if you are speaking on the sharpness of an item it would be implied that they are supposed to be sharp. “Sharpest tool in the shed” discounts the hammer you have in there as useless when it just might not be the right tool for the job but it implies the need for a sharp tool currently.
village604@adultswim.fan · 0 pts · 3h
I mean, it's not that complicated. The opposite of sharp is dull, which is a term for not being smart.
But the shape a tool is in isn't necessarily indicative of the amount of use, so the metaphor isn't transferrable in that way.
PwnTra1n@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1h
I was only commenting on them not understanding how it’s implied that all the pencils in the box should be sharp. The fact that the overall comeback is not fully thought through never came up. I never mentioned the condition of a new vs used tool. My point was that the quote is pointed to imply he should be sharp and not dull in this situation so everything else he’s compared to would presumably be sharp. I don’t know where you thought I had missed or implied otherwise, all around I don’t know what you’re on about.
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 3h
They don't lick!
lobut@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 6h
My coworker got in trouble for using the word "circlejerk" in our AI Slack channel.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 24 pts · 4h
lobut@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 3h
lol it's to talk about new AI tools and just a bountiful smorgasboard of toxic positivity.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 7h
"Unless it's being properly maintained and gets sharpened as needed."
pilaz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4h
"In that case, someone other than the pencil ought to do that job, don't you agree?"
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 2h
Unrealistic scenario, that would cost profit.
rain_enjoyer@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 10h
wise
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 3h
Sometimes I rather enjoy working for boomers. My boss will just light up a cigarette in the shop, we rag on eachother constantly and joke about hanging ourselves from the rafters.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2h
That's starting to happen with Gen X already. As you get older you give fewer shits.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 9 pts · 10h
"Give me a tug and I'll be sharp again."
Janx@piefed.social · 2 pts · 3h
That's another meeting with HR.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 7h
That second guy hasn't heard of pencil sharpeners
krisevol@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 5h
Actually a pencil that hasn't done any work in flat. It's only sharp from continuous use and sharpening.
Maybe that boss was right.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 11 pts · 5h
A pencil being sharpened isn't the pencil doing work.
krisevol@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 4h
You only sharpen pencils doing work
DioramaOfShit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1h
You can buy pre sharpened pencils that have not done any work yet.
anugeshtu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1h
Either it's in the initial situation or the end situation or somewhere in between
Citate: Mein Leben!
krisevol@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 36m
Or just for fun