That expectation was never true for the whole Japanese economy (and referred to large corporations, not the small companies that did most of the work on contract), and is even less true now.
Where movies that gross 4x their budget, somehow took a loss.
Fun fact, each movie is backed not by the studio or production company. Each movie is backed by it's own corporation.
For example: Supergirl is produced by a company called Supergirl Corporation. However Supergirl Corporation doesn't have any money. However, the Studio and Producers have money. The Studio and Producers loan Supergirl Corporation the money to create the movie.
Factor the high concentration of corporations owning everything and charging Supergirl Corporation a ton of fees. Supergirl Corporation has gone bankrupt.
Another disturbingly fun fact. The concept of each movie being a corporation is the same concept you can find other industries. For example; Blackstone doesn't own all those rental properties. Blackstone owns corporations that own those rental properties.
The whole reason the film industry is on the west coast is that they were trying to avoid paying for Edison's patent on the motion picture camera. So, yeah, Hollywood was founded on IP violations.
Where do you think all the money for the biggest box office movies goes to? Like 3-5 people on top, then little goes to the main cast/crew, then quality fx and editing are an afterthought.
A lot of movies get their budgets from hedge funds because they aren't generally strongly correlated with the overall market but that's where the earnings of movies return, not the recipients of the 200M$ spent
I think your comment and the one about someone in Hollywood pocketing the money are both true. Money laundering and/or a tax trick may also play a role.
I'm not sure what CGI scenes your talking about in the Mandalorian movie, but I'd like to point out that the special effects in both the movie and the show are intentionally made to look similar to the og. trilogy.
The whole movie from start to finish looked terrible; the original trilogy looked so much better than this movie. To call out one scene in particular, the AT-ATs on the cliff side - I saw the trailer and said, “damn, I hope they clean that up before the movie comes out” and they didn’t.
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robomuffin79@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 45d
Increasingly convinced that Hollywood is a scam. Someone is pocketing all that money
dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 45d
I would be shocked (shocked, I say) if Hollywood wasn’t mostly a front for money laundering rings.
Promethiel@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 45d
Always has been.
Newsteinleo@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 44d
The plot for The Producers didn't come from nowhere
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 45d
The Japanese economy is artificially cheap.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 44d
At the same time though, you can save a lot of money if you do everything in house. Especially if you have inexpensive labor.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 44d
Not really, because you have to maintain that capacity when you aren’t using it.
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
Idk, could be on a gig labor plan
Cypher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 44d
Yes Japan with its famous expectation of lifelong corporate loyalty kept things cheap with a gig economy.
gramie@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 44d
That expectation was never true for the whole Japanese economy (and referred to large corporations, not the small companies that did most of the work on contract), and is even less true now.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 44d
And the American economy is artificially expensive
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 7 pts · 44d
Welcome to the world of Hollywood Accounting.
Where movies that gross 4x their budget, somehow took a loss.
Fun fact, each movie is backed not by the studio or production company. Each movie is backed by it's own corporation.
For example: Supergirl is produced by a company called Supergirl Corporation. However Supergirl Corporation doesn't have any money. However, the Studio and Producers have money. The Studio and Producers loan Supergirl Corporation the money to create the movie.
Factor the high concentration of corporations owning everything and charging Supergirl Corporation a ton of fees. Supergirl Corporation has gone bankrupt.
Source: https://brokensecrets.com/2012/05/19/movies-are-corporations-hollywood-accounting/
Another disturbingly fun fact. The concept of each movie being a corporation is the same concept you can find other industries. For example; Blackstone doesn't own all those rental properties. Blackstone owns corporations that own those rental properties.
The_Lurker@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 45d
The whole reason the film industry is on the west coast is that they were trying to avoid paying for Edison's patent on the motion picture camera. So, yeah, Hollywood was founded on IP violations.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 45d
Edison falsely claimed the patent.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 12 pts · 44d
Nah, no way. Edison was on the up and up about everything he did.
The fact we acknowledge Edison for anything other than being a piece of shit is a travesty.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
I mean yeah.
Where do you think all the money for the biggest box office movies goes to? Like 3-5 people on top, then little goes to the main cast/crew, then quality fx and editing are an afterthought.
iatenine@piefed.social · 4 pts · 45d
A lot of movies get their budgets from hedge funds because they aren't generally strongly correlated with the overall market but that's where the earnings of movies return, not the recipients of the 200M$ spent
TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today · 107 pts · 45d
Counterpoint: Godzilla's budget was so low because Japanese workers get overworked and underpaid, and the JPY is generally weaker than the USD.
I genuinely hope the workers were properly compensated for G–1.0, it's an excellent film and they truly deserve it.
Airfried@piefed.social · 23 pts · 44d
I think your comment and the one about someone in Hollywood pocketing the money are both true. Money laundering and/or a tax trick may also play a role.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 44d
Japanese workers are overworked and underpaid, as opposed to... American workers being well paid and relaxed?
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 12 pts · 44d
Yes, Japanese workers have only 10 days of guaranteed paid vacations per year while Americans get... 0.
blattrules@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 45d
The cgi in new movies has been getting worse and worse lately; the mandalorian movie was laughably bad in some spots.
nycvin@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 45d
The entire movie looked like a video game cut scene.
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 44d
They render the sets using Unreal Engine, so that's probably not far off the money.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StageCraft
TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 45d
Was it also planned to be a season of the show that instead got turned into a movie like Moana 2 was?
Airfried@piefed.social · 8 pts · 44d
They're not planning their huge productions properly anymore. Everything has to come out yesterday and that's the problem.
DomeGuy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 45d
I don't think that was cgi. It think it was stop motion and puppetry.
(Or, cgi that was supposed to look like stop motion and puppetry.)
rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social · 2 pts · 44d
I'm not sure what CGI scenes your talking about in the Mandalorian movie, but I'd like to point out that the special effects in both the movie and the show are intentionally made to look similar to the og. trilogy.
blattrules@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
The whole movie from start to finish looked terrible; the original trilogy looked so much better than this movie. To call out one scene in particular, the AT-ATs on the cliff side - I saw the trailer and said, “damn, I hope they clean that up before the movie comes out” and they didn’t.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 45d
At least they didn't have to remove a moustache the actor had because of another film they were shooting.
Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 45d
Eh, the new Supergirl movie had its special effects done by the same studio that did Superman. The issue here is the writing and cinematography.
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 45d
Agreed. Those kids did a great job acting. The writing and direction were just the worst.
iatenine@piefed.social · 4 pts · 45d
Obsession enters the chat
(surely this won't blow up my inbox)