Sounds like the deal includes dropping the alcohol boycott, and building the keystone xl, a massive crude oil pipeline that gives Canada basically nothing given that the refining and final sale are done by US companies.
That's the way Alberta wants it. A few oxy addicts in a backhoe feeding US industry. Every boom cycle they just grab the money and refuse to invest in local infrastructure.
Keystone will never get built, it's been on and off for over 12 years.
To me, that's what's tragic. I'm sure we have contract deals we must honor, but once those are up, we should tear down the pipeline and build our own refinery. Hell, start building the refinery now so it's ready when the pipeline contract dies.
In the mean time, if they want to negotiate for more of our oil, tell them right where to go.
it's disappointing seeing conservatives complain about him being too liberal while he does a bunch of conservative shit and then they say he stole conservative ideas and complain about that, then go back to complaining about him being a liberal
Nah. Not only will I not buy US booze, I'm going to continue to not buy US anything that I can help. I've put more money into Canadians' pockets in the last few years than maybe my whole life and I'm feeling pretty damn good about it.
Disappointed, but not surprised. I'm going to have to just double down on boycotting more.
We really need to make it easier to buy Canadian booze from other parts of Canada. I've been picking up a different bottle of whiskey every time I go, but there's always a piss poor selection from anywhere other than my province. I also don't drink too much, so a bottle lasts quite a while, but still.
It's reaching the point where we're going to need to start boycotting Carney's corporate backers, too. I would love to know who actually ghost wrote bill C22.
As I wrote before, I think this is strategic maneuvering on the alcohol ban on his part. On paper he can make it look like we're acquiescing to their demand, while in practice it won't make a noticeable dent in their alcohol sales.
I'm sorry, but this is silly. This is an issue because American liquor companies are taking a financial hit and they are making it an issue. If the finances don't recover, they are not going to stop making it an issue, whatever tricks we might manage that technically satisfies a deal. We are dealing with gangsters. The best move is not to concede.
I'm tired of hearing that Carney is being all "strategic". We're losing big time over Trump's tantrums, and it's costing us a lot. Trump knows he's got the upper hand because the U.S. is a huge economic player, and Canada's most important economic partner.
He's effectively holding us hostage.
But Canada is also a big economic player to the U.S. in more ways than we can imagine. Cutting them off could hurt them enough for everyone in the U.S. to call to impeach the motherfucker and put an end to this circus.
But instead we keep enabling Trump and losing the entire way.
Do they represent a significant percentage of alcohol sales, though? Even if they drink three times what the average person does, if they only represent 3% of the population, they're little more than a rounding error.
They'll care about price. I think the tariffs will ensure that the prices are just a bit higher than domestic stuff... Enough to have the drunkards reaching for Canadian brands.
I don't know much about alcoholics, but I'm pretty sure they don't have a lot of brand loyalty, and they'll drink just about anything that contains alcohol, regardless of flavor, or quality. As long as they can get it cheap.
I see it as an easy win for Canada because this started as a grassroots movement by the people. The provincial government removal from the shelves came afterwards, in support. Put the booze back, who cares. Most people still won't purchase that fascist crap.
I don't know if your faith in the Canadian consumer is warranted. There was just a radio piece I heard the other day on NPR about how Canadian tourism is already on the uptick in the United States. I think maybe the average Canadian doesn't have the wherewithal you would like them to.
I think they said cross border trips. That could also be business trips, though I think there are many deals that people find enticing. I just can't handle how weird the vibe is there, completely unenjoyable. I used to extent nearly every trip few a few days or stay the weekend, but now I can't get in and out fast enough.
I don't know about people not purchasing. It may be the part of Canada I'm in, but USAian products aren't sitting on the shelves for as long and a lot of people have lost the care to avoid them if they ever did. A great example was last summer when USAian watermelons were rotting in the bins at grocery stores while Mexican and Canadian ones were selling quickly. This year I'm seeing people pick them up without a care. It doesn't help USAian companies are purposely hiding the origins and maple washing their products.
Plus, the uptick in Canadians travelling south of the border for non-work purposes means full acceptance and support for the USAian administration by those choosing to go to there.
I'm keeping up my boycott and always will. Those that don't boycott when they can afford to or simply don't care can be the first dealt with as traitors when the time inevitably comes.
Just price it absurdly, make a bottle of Jack Daniels $2,500 and if some dumbass buys it, the store gets a good payday and the bottling company successfully sells 1 bottle.
I'm a fan of this. Just have a little graveyard area where any US booze lives. Put it in a locked cabinet so anyone who has decided to buy it can be judged appropriately.
Whenever the cabinet is opened, it plays the US National anthem throughout the store (probably a modified version that sounds like it's been sung by a half dead cat to an out of tune piano, and in a different key to make it sound tragic). This way, everyone there can know that some one has willingly chosen to buy their crap and can look over at who they are so you can remember not to do that person any favors in the future.
Fuck everything about what the US is doing. Fuck them. Americans, I'll judge on a case by case basis, but America can get bent.
The Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston said the request came directly from the negotiations and was conditional on a final deal, which is a defensible way forward
If he actually does it, then it will be there... Taking up space.... I don't think anyone is going to buy it.
Sure, a few might, but he's going to force retailers to stock it and it's just not going to move. He's going to make them into involuntary warehouses for crap nobody wants.
US booze has never been remarkable in the first place
I don't feel like doing the US or the corporations therein, any favors.
Can we get a different liberal leader to be PM? Is it too late to do that? I don't hate Carney, but his decisions have made me wonder about his fitness to lead.
If he actually does it, then it will be there… Taking up space… I don’t think anyone is going to buy it.
This is exactly why it isn't tone deaf. He can just issue the ask, hope that not all premiers will follow, and even the provinces that do follow, consumption will still not recover fully; he can say "hey I did all I can, Canadians just don't wanna drink it" and the US loses a negotiation leverage.
I do think a significant amount of people will buy it, though. They US booze will come out cheap and in droves. And we have a dumber third of the country that's actually a fan of the US still
Honestly as long as we don't give in to the stupid military procurement crap(F35s, E7 Wedgetail, & Golden Dome) that was being floated I'm ok with the alcohol back on the shelves(alcohol is a dumb consumer good we can easily replace. Military hardware and contracts not so much). it costs us very little and can be re-implemented fast if that idiot plays dumb games. Let him strut around like some dumb peacock that got a big win while i refuse to buy it. If we can ship the oil south to keep Alberta placated with a bunch of new pipelines to busy themselves with that O&G Execs realize only get completed if the referendum fails, the referendum will get crushed and we can go back to focusing on electrification/EV's/Transit for Canada as a whole and replacing our dumbass premier's that have gotten cover from "Donny Dumbass". Hopefully with everything else going so shittily for the him, he'll be too distracted till after midterms that we can negotiate the rest of this horseshit away during CUSMA re-negotiations.
So the booze bans, if I remember right, came in as part of the response to the US imposing tariffs, tariffs they justified with a flimsy excuse of 'fentanyl!'. The US didn't like that we responded to their clearly abusive/disrespectful tariffs, by applying more tariffs. Now Carney is negotiating to lower those tariffs in part by ending what little resistance/push-back Canada had shown.
zzz. PP's conservatives had a DOGE-North campaign ready to go, because they thought Musks approach was awesome -- there were lots of photos of it coming from their Alberta nerve center, when they thought it'd get them votes, even wearing red MCGA hats and all. Saying Carney's fucking up things like social services is warranted criticism, yes, but PP would've butchered everything. And what's this nonsense about "He'd keep us in CUSMA!", the fuck? What is PP, the diaper whisperer? PP would've spread his cheeks so far apart to accept Donalds droopy dick, I don't even know what bizarro rationale you're using to pretend like he'd somehow magically solve anything at all -- if he'd been able to 'stay' in the agreement the US wants out of, then he would've done it by conceding to every demand ever made by the Americans. And where's his negotiating expertise coming from exactly anyhow, what with PP's complete lack of any actual working experience outside of parliament? The states would've said "Fentanyl!" and PP would've accepted their bullshit messaging, designed a whole propaganda campaign around how fentanyl was "a MASSIVE problem in Canada, HUGE, some even say bigger than those forest fires and stuff!", then he'd label it as a China drug and start targeting asian immigrants etc. Last election, the Canadian conservatives literally used the same campaign slogans as Trump - "Make Canada Great Again" and "Canada First" bullshit, and you want to pretend like they'd do anything but bend over for Trump? Absolute fantasist horseshit.
But whatever floats your boat I guess, you can suck off conservatives all day for all I care.
With all the cuts Carney has done the difference between him and doge North is marketing.
He’d keep us in CUSMA!”,
Canada doesn't want to trade with the US. While we know we're trying to negotiate out of it it's uncertain if Carney can get us out or if he's just going to keep sucking Trump's dick. Presumably PP would suck Trump's dick instead of getting us out of it.
PP would’ve spread his cheeks so far apart to accept Donalds droopy dick,
So no different.
The states would’ve said “Fentanyl!” and PP would’ve accepted their bullshit messaging,
He might open ICE offices in Canada or increase boarder security like Carney has.
you want to pretend like they’d do anything but bend over for Trump? Absolute fantasist horseshit.
No, I'm just not pretending Carney isn't.
But whatever floats your boat I guess, you can suck off conservatives all day for all I care.
Carney is a conservative, think what you want but you're the one defending them not I.
The only reason why he got into power was because PP was such a detestable imbecile. If the Cons picked a slightly less insane Trump ass kisser he would still be in Toronto working for whatever bank he was working for.
Sure restock it all in one particular location in the store with “🇺🇸💩🗑️🍺🍷🍸” signs and everyone should stop and stare with derision if anyone bothers to try to even browse this section much less buy from it.
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TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 73 pts · 1d
My dudes and ladies. Please don’t drink our booze. It’s loaded with oligarchy and fascism.
Seriously though, I hope everyone in Canada never buys a drop no matter how cheap.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 9 pts · 1d
And they've been caught watering it down, including premium brands.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
But how can you water down US beer?
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
By adding water.
TomatoPotato69@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
But if you add water to piss, you just get watered down piss? I don't get it.... /s
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
and they still lap it up.
lost_faith@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
So not only is their beer like sex on a beach, their hard stuff going that way too?
ajikeshi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4h
probably e. coli as well... as most of the us groceries have it
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 9h
I like you. You can come visit.
Stay if you like.
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 57 pts · 1d
OK Carney; I’ll look around my house and if I find any US alcohol, I’ll return it to the store.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 47 pts · 1d
masterspace@lemmy.ca · 43 pts · 1d
Sounds like the deal includes dropping the alcohol boycott, and building the keystone xl, a massive crude oil pipeline that gives Canada basically nothing given that the refining and final sale are done by US companies.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
That's the way Alberta wants it. A few oxy addicts in a backhoe feeding US industry. Every boom cycle they just grab the money and refuse to invest in local infrastructure. Keystone will never get built, it's been on and off for over 12 years.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 9h
To me, that's what's tragic. I'm sure we have contract deals we must honor, but once those are up, we should tear down the pipeline and build our own refinery. Hell, start building the refinery now so it's ready when the pipeline contract dies.
In the mean time, if they want to negotiate for more of our oil, tell them right where to go.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 1d
I'm not even Canadian but fuck this guy
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 1d
it's disappointing seeing conservatives complain about him being too liberal while he does a bunch of conservative shit and then they say he stole conservative ideas and complain about that, then go back to complaining about him being a liberal
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1d
Conservatives will always complain that everything is "too liberal". Each time they do, they slide the goalposts
grte@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1d
It's a lot more annoying watching Liberals continue to support him as he gives conservatives their heart's desire.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
oh god yeah that's annoying af
a surprisingly low amount of people are recognizing it
iamthetot@piefed.ca · 40 pts · 1d
Nah. Not only will I not buy US booze, I'm going to continue to not buy US anything that I can help. I've put more money into Canadians' pockets in the last few years than maybe my whole life and I'm feeling pretty damn good about it.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 9h
This is the way.
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thetrekkersparky@startrek.website · 32 pts · 1d
Disappointed, but not surprised. I'm going to have to just double down on boycotting more.
We really need to make it easier to buy Canadian booze from other parts of Canada. I've been picking up a different bottle of whiskey every time I go, but there's always a piss poor selection from anywhere other than my province. I also don't drink too much, so a bottle lasts quite a while, but still.
grey_maniac@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1d
It's reaching the point where we're going to need to start boycotting Carney's corporate backers, too. I would love to know who actually ghost wrote bill C22.
thetrekkersparky@startrek.website · 4 pts · 22h
For a guy who was voted in to stand up to Trump, he really seems to be doing a lot of appeasement.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 29 pts · 1d
Carney is weak AF.
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 16 pts · 1d
As I wrote before, I think this is strategic maneuvering on the alcohol ban on his part. On paper he can make it look like we're acquiescing to their demand, while in practice it won't make a noticeable dent in their alcohol sales.
grte@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
I'm sorry, but this is silly. This is an issue because American liquor companies are taking a financial hit and they are making it an issue. If the finances don't recover, they are not going to stop making it an issue, whatever tricks we might manage that technically satisfies a deal. We are dealing with gangsters. The best move is not to concede.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 0 pts · 1d
I'm tired of hearing that Carney is being all "strategic". We're losing big time over Trump's tantrums, and it's costing us a lot. Trump knows he's got the upper hand because the U.S. is a huge economic player, and Canada's most important economic partner.
He's effectively holding us hostage.
But Canada is also a big economic player to the U.S. in more ways than we can imagine. Cutting them off could hurt them enough for everyone in the U.S. to call to impeach the motherfucker and put an end to this circus.
But instead we keep enabling Trump and losing the entire way.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
If putting booze back on shelves restores US sales, then it's Canada that is weak and pathetic.
JFC we quickly forget Trump had a huge number of supporters in Canada before 2024.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 1d
I know. His cult extends beyond the U.S. borders.
That's why we gotta cut them at the source.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 26 pts · 1d
sure, recall the ban. let the market decide.
hopefully Canadians will continue not buying american stuff, and there won't be a business case to stock it
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
Canadian alchys don't give a fuck. The heavy drinkers in rural areas love Trump.
nyan@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 1d
Do they represent a significant percentage of alcohol sales, though? Even if they drink three times what the average person does, if they only represent 3% of the population, they're little more than a rounding error.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
According to CAMH 25% are admitted heavy drinkers in Ontario. That's just admitted.
nyan@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 1d
Doesn't mean they're rural or can't afford domestic booze, though.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 9h
They'll care about price. I think the tariffs will ensure that the prices are just a bit higher than domestic stuff... Enough to have the drunkards reaching for Canadian brands.
I don't know much about alcoholics, but I'm pretty sure they don't have a lot of brand loyalty, and they'll drink just about anything that contains alcohol, regardless of flavor, or quality. As long as they can get it cheap.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 1d
I see it as an easy win for Canada because this started as a grassroots movement by the people. The provincial government removal from the shelves came afterwards, in support. Put the booze back, who cares. Most people still won't purchase that fascist crap.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
I don't know if your faith in the Canadian consumer is warranted. There was just a radio piece I heard the other day on NPR about how Canadian tourism is already on the uptick in the United States. I think maybe the average Canadian doesn't have the wherewithal you would like them to.
7rokhym@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 21h
I think they said cross border trips. That could also be business trips, though I think there are many deals that people find enticing. I just can't handle how weird the vibe is there, completely unenjoyable. I used to extent nearly every trip few a few days or stay the weekend, but now I can't get in and out fast enough.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 10h
I think that the average Canadian has the wherewithal to proceed accordingly but those Canadians at each end of the bell curve? Maybe not.
potter2010@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
I don't know about people not purchasing. It may be the part of Canada I'm in, but USAian products aren't sitting on the shelves for as long and a lot of people have lost the care to avoid them if they ever did. A great example was last summer when USAian watermelons were rotting in the bins at grocery stores while Mexican and Canadian ones were selling quickly. This year I'm seeing people pick them up without a care. It doesn't help USAian companies are purposely hiding the origins and maple washing their products.
Plus, the uptick in Canadians travelling south of the border for non-work purposes means full acceptance and support for the USAian administration by those choosing to go to there.
I'm keeping up my boycott and always will. Those that don't boycott when they can afford to or simply don't care can be the first dealt with as traitors when the time inevitably comes.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
You can replace USAian with just "US"
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
Would sound weird to say US when talking about the people. Just say American, like everyone else.
And because I know someone will be butthurt, GTFO. Virtually everyone calls it America, get over it.
xthexder@l.sw0.com · 3 pts · 1d
They were talking about products, not people. "US products" and "American products" are pretty much equivalent.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1d
Fuck that, I don't miss any of their crap
chuck@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 1d
If it's forced on the provincial liquor boards they should only accept us booze on consignment,
Yep it will be on the shelves but I suspect it'll be there for a long long time not selling
DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 1d
There it is, elbows down.
Expect a parade of Premiers lifting bans next week.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
Doug Ford can't wait to get his special gold kneepads back on.
shittydwarf@piefed.ca · 17 pts · 1d
CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 1d
Restoring US alcohol to shelves is a bit premature considering we still have a potential 50% tariff over our heads.
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
Even without the tariff I certainly won't buy it, hell they can even mark it 50% off.
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev · 2 pts · 7h
Just price it absurdly, make a bottle of Jack Daniels $2,500 and if some dumbass buys it, the store gets a good payday and the bottling company successfully sells 1 bottle.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 9h
If the fact that it's US booze doesn't put you off, the increased prices from the tariff will!
I see this as an absolute win.
snoons@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 1d
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 1d
Neat. We'll know where NOT to shop, because they caved.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 1d
BCLiquor, NSLC, LCBO, SAQ can buy one case of American liquor each, and put one bottle in a cute little locked display case at each store.
happy_wheels@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1d
This is the way.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 9h
I'm a fan of this. Just have a little graveyard area where any US booze lives. Put it in a locked cabinet so anyone who has decided to buy it can be judged appropriately.
Whenever the cabinet is opened, it plays the US National anthem throughout the store (probably a modified version that sounds like it's been sung by a half dead cat to an out of tune piano, and in a different key to make it sound tragic). This way, everyone there can know that some one has willingly chosen to buy their crap and can look over at who they are so you can remember not to do that person any favors in the future.
Fuck everything about what the US is doing. Fuck them. Americans, I'll judge on a case by case basis, but America can get bent.
🖕🖕🍁🍁🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🍁🍁🖕🖕
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev · 1 pts · 7h
No one wants to hear the First Lady try to sing that!
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1d
samsamsamsam@discuss.online · 6 pts · 1d
The Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston said the request came directly from the negotiations and was conditional on a final deal, which is a defensible way forward
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 9h
Seems tonedeaf.
If he actually does it, then it will be there... Taking up space.... I don't think anyone is going to buy it.
Sure, a few might, but he's going to force retailers to stock it and it's just not going to move. He's going to make them into involuntary warehouses for crap nobody wants.
Can we get a different liberal leader to be PM? Is it too late to do that? I don't hate Carney, but his decisions have made me wonder about his fitness to lead.
villasv@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 3h
This is exactly why it isn't tone deaf. He can just issue the ask, hope that not all premiers will follow, and even the provinces that do follow, consumption will still not recover fully; he can say "hey I did all I can, Canadians just don't wanna drink it" and the US loses a negotiation leverage.
I do think a significant amount of people will buy it, though. They US booze will come out cheap and in droves. And we have a dumber third of the country that's actually a fan of the US still
WizardGed@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
Honestly as long as we don't give in to the stupid military procurement crap(F35s, E7 Wedgetail, & Golden Dome) that was being floated I'm ok with the alcohol back on the shelves(alcohol is a dumb consumer good we can easily replace. Military hardware and contracts not so much). it costs us very little and can be re-implemented fast if that idiot plays dumb games. Let him strut around like some dumb peacock that got a big win while i refuse to buy it. If we can ship the oil south to keep Alberta placated with a bunch of new pipelines to busy themselves with that O&G Execs realize only get completed if the referendum fails, the referendum will get crushed and we can go back to focusing on electrification/EV's/Transit for Canada as a whole and replacing our dumbass premier's that have gotten cover from "Donny Dumbass". Hopefully with everything else going so shittily for the him, he'll be too distracted till after midterms that we can negotiate the rest of this horseshit away during CUSMA re-negotiations.
wampus@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
So the booze bans, if I remember right, came in as part of the response to the US imposing tariffs, tariffs they justified with a flimsy excuse of 'fentanyl!'. The US didn't like that we responded to their clearly abusive/disrespectful tariffs, by applying more tariffs. Now Carney is negotiating to lower those tariffs in part by ending what little resistance/push-back Canada had shown.
Carney's disappointing.
Still better than PP.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 1d
As Trump's lapdog it's hard to say he's better. He's the equivalent of what we thought PP would be.
wampus@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1d
Then you had a far higher opinion of PP than many of the people I know.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · -6 pts · 1d
PP would keep us in CUSMA, something we assume LeBlanc is still working to get us out of.
PP would deport more people than he'd let in. We're already doing that. Even stripping people of citizenship.
PP will destroy the environment with a pro oil agenda. We're already doing that.
PP will go after minorities. Carney's indigenous record shows we're doing that.
PP will privatize public assets. Carney appears to be doing that.
PP will end pharmacare. Carney seems to have done that.
PP will side Trump. Look at Iran and explain how Carney isn't doing that.
PP will put Canada further behind by cutting science research. Carney already did that.
wampus@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1d
zzz. PP's conservatives had a DOGE-North campaign ready to go, because they thought Musks approach was awesome -- there were lots of photos of it coming from their Alberta nerve center, when they thought it'd get them votes, even wearing red MCGA hats and all. Saying Carney's fucking up things like social services is warranted criticism, yes, but PP would've butchered everything. And what's this nonsense about "He'd keep us in CUSMA!", the fuck? What is PP, the diaper whisperer? PP would've spread his cheeks so far apart to accept Donalds droopy dick, I don't even know what bizarro rationale you're using to pretend like he'd somehow magically solve anything at all -- if he'd been able to 'stay' in the agreement the US wants out of, then he would've done it by conceding to every demand ever made by the Americans. And where's his negotiating expertise coming from exactly anyhow, what with PP's complete lack of any actual working experience outside of parliament? The states would've said "Fentanyl!" and PP would've accepted their bullshit messaging, designed a whole propaganda campaign around how fentanyl was "a MASSIVE problem in Canada, HUGE, some even say bigger than those forest fires and stuff!", then he'd label it as a China drug and start targeting asian immigrants etc. Last election, the Canadian conservatives literally used the same campaign slogans as Trump - "Make Canada Great Again" and "Canada First" bullshit, and you want to pretend like they'd do anything but bend over for Trump? Absolute fantasist horseshit.
But whatever floats your boat I guess, you can suck off conservatives all day for all I care.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 1d
With all the cuts Carney has done the difference between him and doge North is marketing.
Canada doesn't want to trade with the US. While we know we're trying to negotiate out of it it's uncertain if Carney can get us out or if he's just going to keep sucking Trump's dick. Presumably PP would suck Trump's dick instead of getting us out of it.
So no different.
He might open ICE offices in Canada or increase boarder security like Carney has.
No, I'm just not pretending Carney isn't.
Carney is a conservative, think what you want but you're the one defending them not I.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Does he want Conservatives to wins?
ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1d
The only reason why he got into power was because PP was such a detestable imbecile. If the Cons picked a slightly less insane Trump ass kisser he would still be in Toronto working for whatever bank he was working for.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
He was going to win until Trudeau left
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 19h
Only because Canada had had enough of Trudeau and he was the only choice.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
If Carney continue the disappoint people may get fed up from liberals which won 4 consecutive elections
grte@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 1d
Really, incredibly sick of the federal government not even managing to have as much backbone as I, some random citizen.
GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 9h
Sure restock it all in one particular location in the store with “🇺🇸💩🗑️🍺🍷🍸” signs and everyone should stop and stare with derision if anyone bothers to try to even browse this section much less buy from it.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
"Mark Carney Forces Canadians to Drink US Alcohol" -Jesse Kline, National Compost.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1d
😂 😅 😆 🤣 😂 😅 😆 🤣 😂 😅 😆 🤣 😂 😅 😆
NarrativeBear@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
Honestly I never understood why the product was removed/put in storage in the first place?
Would it not have been substantially cheaper for businesses not to purchase any more stock instead?
People then could have choosen not to buy what's left on the shelfs. And governments would not have to pay storage fees using taxpayer funds.
non_burglar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
That is what's happening. "On the shelves" means "for sale", it's not literal.