I actually can imagine that once he dies all most Republicans will be claiming they never supported everything he did and why we even bring his name when discussing issues caused by his current actions.
Given how Graham did 180 after a golf game and how Hannity feels like kissing his ass even though politically trump should have no control over him tells me that a lot of Republicans were guests at Epstein parties and it is used for blackmail.
If we want to keep democracy going after everyone in the files should be one of top priorities.
The entire American political apparatus plus foreign influential people were in cahoots, enjoying the same forbidden fruits to one degree or another... it's not in his personal interest to release them, ofc, but if he had a moment of lucidity and morality and wanted to come clean, he'd be shot, lol.
Yes, Epstein was small potatoes compared to the Trump child prostitution ring. Remember, they had a falling out because Jeffrey stole one of his teenage sexual assault victims.
The whole focus on Epstein is to take heat off the rest of the child pimps. It has worked extremely well.
That was after he starting stealing Trump's girls (circa 2000). Epstein wanted in on his trafficking operation and Trump wasn't about to share. Trump did block a real estate purchase from Epstein to keep him out of the neighborhood (circa 2004)
Dutch comedian Arjen Lubach made a preview of what Trump will say happened to him the coming years (spoiler: he's not done making things up): https://youtu.be/T1amNlMeqbA?t=232.
And he didn't lower the price of eggs or anything else he tries to claim. Enough people believe he does though so here we are, and this pattern is old, but fall for it. Now we have higher prices that verifiably are his fault and the other wealthy enriched on all this. The cult won't understand that and repeats the lies about Biden for their own deluded comfort.
The ones are I work with are quiet af now lol. It was not like that before the election at all but Trump has fucked up so much it’s hard for them to legitimately defend. They still won’t admit they are wrong but the faith has been shook hard and you can see it, they aren’t as confident as before
Unimportant details that still prove Trump's genius: he told many times about safety of Beautiful Oceans. And behold -- he was correct again! Stable genius indeed!
Actually he has warned of the dangers of oceans, and batteries, and sharks
So I said, there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat, do I get electrocuted? If the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking, do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted? Or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?
Because I will tell you he didn't know the answer. He said, 'you know, nobody's ever asked me that question.' I said I think it's a good question. I think there's a lot of electric current coming to that water. But you know what I'd do? If there was a shark or you get electrocuted, I'll take electrocution every single time. I'm not getting near the shark.
They're not choosing to be gullible. They're being brainwashed. FOX news uses the very same methods used on US soldiers in Korea.
Viewers are suckered in with scary news and hate pieces that affirm common conservative presumptions and suspicions. They're invited to disregard any contradicting news stories and disconnect from all other news media sources. And then they're coached in MAGA rhetoric and ideology until they know all the thought-terminating clichés by heart.
In the end they imagine liberals doing despicable things (as plausible as They're eating the dogs!) and are convinced liberals need to be hunted down, imprisoned and executed. Also that anyone MAGA or who doesn't virtue-signal as MAGA is a liberal.
We know FOX News uses this method.
We know human beings are susceptible to this kind of manipulation.
All our regulatory bodies are captured, and laws against the practice, are neutered. The media agencies who do this for MAGA are sponsored heavily by the ultra-wealthy, as are influencers who toe the same line.
The only questions are, how pervasively effective is it? (the 2024 election speaks volumes.), How much can the MAGA faithful suffer before they start doubting the message? And, is there anything that can be done to reprogram them?
There are believers of cyclical history among the ultra wealthy, I wonder how much money is being spent to encourage a crisis in the hope of seeing the golden age on the other side.
"His brain is broken! He's so DUMB! Dementia! What an IDIOT!" you say about they guy who you've been unable to stop from spending ten years shoving your head into the toilet and flushing repeatedly.
A woman who is armed to the teeth and who spent the last century belligerently yelling at everyone else “fuck you, I’m the BEST IN THE WORLD at stopping rapists!”?
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hOrni@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 1d
They aren't gullible. They are aware they are wrong. That just won't admit it. They'd rather self destruct than show humility.
Malica@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 1d
Gotta have humility to show it
Souvenir@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 48 pts · 1d
I remember a world where this man was rarely on television and any mention of him was easily avoidable.
I will never live to see that world that world again.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1d
I remember a time when a president was criticized on TV and he didn't go off on incoherent rambling for 3 weeks and threaten to pull their FCC license
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
Humanity having left that world behind makes us seem like we were put under an evil curse.
tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
Dicks out for Harambe
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 22h
I actually can imagine that once he dies all most Republicans will be claiming they never supported everything he did and why we even bring his name when discussing issues caused by his current actions.
Given how Graham did 180 after a golf game and how Hannity feels like kissing his ass even though politically trump should have no control over him tells me that a lot of Republicans were guests at Epstein parties and it is used for blackmail.
If we want to keep democracy going after everyone in the files should be one of top priorities.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
Just like all of em who denounced him after Jan6 and went on to try and do book deals? Then after a year or so were right back on board.
Almacca@aussie.zone · 22 pts · 1d
Trump lied!? Stop the fuckin' presses. :|
o0evillusion0o@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1d
He will not release the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES (TM)
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
The entire American political apparatus plus foreign influential people were in cahoots, enjoying the same forbidden fruits to one degree or another... it's not in his personal interest to release them, ofc, but if he had a moment of lucidity and morality and wanted to come clean, he'd be shot, lol.
Fredselfish@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1d
More I learn about those files the more I learn that Epstein was just the lacky. Trump was the true master mind behind it all.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 21h
Yes, Epstein was small potatoes compared to the Trump child prostitution ring. Remember, they had a falling out because Jeffrey stole one of his teenage sexual assault victims.
The whole focus on Epstein is to take heat off the rest of the child pimps. It has worked extremely well.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 19h
Rumor was they had a falling out because of a piece of property the orange pedo wanted the grey pedo ended up buying instead
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
That was after he starting stealing Trump's girls (circa 2000). Epstein wanted in on his trafficking operation and Trump wasn't about to share. Trump did block a real estate purchase from Epstein to keep him out of the neighborhood (circa 2004)
https://abcnews.com/amp/US/virginia-giuffres-family-donald-trump-knew-jeffrey-epstein/story?id=124238103
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-and-epstein-partied-together-then-a-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them-20190801-p52cqv.html
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 1d
There was a third plane. He jumped to the roof of Trump tower and punched it away.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
It's true. I was the plane and he hit me in the dangle and my dangle still hurts.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 18h
Fourth. The third was brought down by it's passengers before it reached its target
huppakee@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1d
Dutch comedian Arjen Lubach made a preview of what Trump will say happened to him the coming years (spoiler: he's not done making things up): https://youtu.be/T1amNlMeqbA?t=232.
Space_Cowboy92@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1d
Surely we don’t need to be using AI to make these memes? Come on people…
Smeagol666@crazypeople.online · 14 pts · 1d
I think that the U of Penn professor who said "Donald Trump was the dumbest goddam student I ever had", wasn't being hyperbolic.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
Smart people don't need to sue the school to keep their transcripts sealed either
Smeagol666@crazypeople.online · 1 pts · 7h
Exactly.
Alexfire@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
And he didn't lower the price of eggs or anything else he tries to claim. Enough people believe he does though so here we are, and this pattern is old, but fall for it. Now we have higher prices that verifiably are his fault and the other wealthy enriched on all this. The cult won't understand that and repeats the lies about Biden for their own deluded comfort.
xTechDeath@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 21h
The ones are I work with are quiet af now lol. It was not like that before the election at all but Trump has fucked up so much it’s hard for them to legitimately defend. They still won’t admit they are wrong but the faith has been shook hard and you can see it, they aren’t as confident as before
PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1d
I honestly believe that Republican bastards just use these obvious campaign lies as an excuse to play dumb and hide their racism.
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 19h
A lot of em aren't exactly hiding it
username_1@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 1d
But wouldn't he be dead if he wasn't rescued during 9/11? He is obviously alive, so...
ignotum@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1d
I was also rescued from 9/11, by being on a different continent
username_1@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1d
Unimportant details that still prove Trump's genius: he told many times about safety of Beautiful Oceans. And behold -- he was correct again! Stable genius indeed!
ignotum@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
Actually he has warned of the dangers of oceans, and batteries, and sharks
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 21h
They're not choosing to be gullible. They're being brainwashed. FOX news uses the very same methods used on US soldiers in Korea.
Viewers are suckered in with scary news and hate pieces that affirm common conservative presumptions and suspicions. They're invited to disregard any contradicting news stories and disconnect from all other news media sources. And then they're coached in MAGA rhetoric and ideology until they know all the thought-terminating clichés by heart.
In the end they imagine liberals doing despicable things (as plausible as They're eating the dogs!) and are convinced liberals need to be hunted down, imprisoned and executed. Also that anyone MAGA or who doesn't virtue-signal as MAGA is a liberal.
We know FOX News uses this method.
We know human beings are susceptible to this kind of manipulation.
All our regulatory bodies are captured, and laws against the practice, are neutered. The media agencies who do this for MAGA are sponsored heavily by the ultra-wealthy, as are influencers who toe the same line.
The only questions are, how pervasively effective is it? (the 2024 election speaks volumes.), How much can the MAGA faithful suffer before they start doubting the message? And, is there anything that can be done to reprogram them?
Eheran@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 20h
Exactly, the same way Nazis got power and so many other bad people too.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 18h
There are believers of cyclical history among the ultra wealthy, I wonder how much money is being spent to encourage a crisis in the hope of seeing the golden age on the other side.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 1d
he is pathological liar, he just can't help himself...
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-bragged-tallest-building/
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 22h
Ask yourself why would be wait until after the mid terms, anyone running a business would rather have money now than risk it down the track.
I'm sure everyone here knows why, but people on the hook and sinker might scratch their heads
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1d
I think his brain is broken but just barely aware enough to know that conservative voter's brains are even more broken.
They'll believe this. Why wouldn't they?
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 22h
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -22 pts · 1d
"His brain is broken! He's so DUMB! Dementia! What an IDIOT!" you say about they guy who you've been unable to stop from spending ten years shoving your head into the toilet and flushing repeatedly.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 1d
The creature is the president of the US.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -9 pts · 1d
Great. So surely all the very intelligent people should have no problem outmaneuvering him.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1d
Way to not understand your own complaints
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -7 pts · 1d
Okay, you’re fine. Keep doing what you’re doing. Enjoy MAGA giving you what your inaction deserves.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 1d
I'll keep cautiously supporting my prime minister 🇨🇦.
You can keep tilting at windmills while complaining that people are discussing a world leader while likely not being in/or american.
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 11 pts · 1d
You do have a point, even if you're a bit of an ass about it.
For Americans it may not be obvious how much harm trump is causing people in other countries.
The Iran war is causing global inflation. The unchecked spending is causing global interest rates to rise.
Even though some Americans didn't vote for the guy, he is still the national shame of all Americans.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 1d
Most Americans didn't vote for the guy.
The majority of America's didn't even bother voting.
im_fine_sandy@nord.pub · 2 pts · 1d
Yes, but my point is all Americans will be judged by history.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
Hoisted by our own retards.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1d
Slurs fucking suuuck!
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1d
I thought it came full-circle now and we can use it towards idiots who have no excuse and choose to remain stubborn and ignorant.
So hard to keep up.
mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Malica@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 1d
That counts as a vote for him
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -9 pts · 1d
Fuck your tone policing.
Americans are allowing this shit.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1d
I bet you blame women when they get raped.
Fucking potato.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -9 pts · 1d
A woman who is armed to the teeth and who spent the last century belligerently yelling at everyone else “fuck you, I’m the BEST IN THE WORLD at stopping rapists!”?
Yeah, I’d blame that one.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
I don't know why you delight in being an asshole, but I pray you have the day you deserve.
WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca · -4 pts · 21h
Take that high road. Enjoy MAGA, you absolute coward.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1d
It really makes no sense, you'd think Lemmy users would be fairly representative of Americans in general.