Do conservatives still say that? I remember Dubya saying that decades ago - and my wife and I still laugh at that occasionally. Anytime we have a minor convenience it's because someone hates our freedom.
Usually not in those exact words. But everything adjacent to those words. Ben Shapiro repeatedly makes the comment that liberals hate America. Except he can't say liberals. They're the radical left. They're Democrats that hate America. Their DSA the hate America. They hate its abundance. They hate its progress. They hate its free markets. Unfortunately, one of the good things about Ben Shapiro is he does specify who "they" are. And he calls out people who don't specify who "they" are. It's one of the only good things about him.
I always find this stuff funny, but it sucks that so many people hear it and take it seriously. The idea of anyone that doesn't vote Republican just hating America because of our abundance, progress, or freedom is just ridiculous. But I suppose he can't go out there telling the truth or he'd lose his audience.
It's like those graphics you see on Fox News about the "radical left" ideas like free healthcare and affordable housing.
He is losing audience. The Tucker/Fuentes right are cannibalizing his audience. Becoming a Trump Supporter didn't help him because he did it right before Trump supporters started thinking Trump wasn't radical enough.
I often think that there’s no way a man could possibly achieve levels of douchebaggery so high that he sends a message like this unironically. Then I get in my car and see large pickup trucks behaving the way they do.
It's always fun to see people who learned how to debate from posting online bring that energy to real life. Just a fun reminder that sometimes learning something can actually make you more of an idiot.
Sometimes I'm really thankful that my brain was already mostly developed before the Internet became popularized. Lord only knows what my autistic ass would have done with all the terrible information available nowadays.
It’s like they have enough intelligence to retain information, but absolutely no ability to form complex thoughts and do anything with said information.
Eh, I think that's just due to selection bias. We're at a point where computers are such an integral part of life that the only people who do not know how to operate them are people who chose not to keep up with the times.
I have plenty of older patients who did not grow up with computers, but learned how to operate them later in life because they recognized their importance. They tend to retain much better cognitive function later in life than those who checked out of having new experiences a long time ago.
On the opposite side, I have plenty of younger patients who grew up with computers and are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.
I think there is a drastic difference between what computer counted in the 90s-00s vs now. It was not user friendly, everything was advanced, troubleshooting was engineering, etc., you didn't just push a power button, launch a browser and go to youtube
Eh, it wasn't that much different than now. Tbh in some ways it was a bit easier, just because there wasn't as much going on. Really everything windows 95 and after were relatively similar to what most people are using today.
Even before YouTube there were plenty of forums available that would walk you through most any troubleshooting.
Right, but we had forums, we constantly troubleshooted things, we did alot of reading, etc., nowadays average person spends most of that time consuming media, which was borderline a luxury back then.
I think that depends on the user. In my experience typically one person in the house was computer literate and spent most of their time fixing the damage caused by the mindless surfing of the rest of the household.
I didn't ask to read this post. This post asked to get in front of my eyes. In not saying reading it was right, but don't try to make this post bigger than it was.
There is a real question about whether a relationship should continue after a transition, but doing it over texts and in such a debatey way is kinda weird.
I think the implication is that this guy asked a woman to be his girlfriend, then cheated on her. When he was caught, he said that he only asked if He could be her boyfriend, but never claimed that she was his girlfriend, leaving him free to have other relationships. It’s a twisted logic that’s gaslighting the woman…
I thought they meant transgression but they really did mean transition. Misread it as if the guy had a boyfriend who transitioned, and he didn't want to have a girlfriend.
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Seimhe@lemmy.world · 132 pts · 2d
Gaslighting behaviour: reframing, deflection, minimisation.
Klear@piefed.world · 113 pts · 2d
Gaslighting isn't real. You made it up.
Seimhe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
The American Psychological Association (APA) Dictionary of Psychology defines gaslight as:
Klear@piefed.world · 106 pts · 2d
The link says nothing of the sort. You probably misread it, or misunderstood it.
::: spoiler spoiler It was a joke :::
Seimhe@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 2d
Ah, you got me.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 2d
And of course the American PYSCHOLOGICAL Association would say that. It's how they make money by selling these bogus diagnosis guides to psychologists
elephantium@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2d
Whoosh
At this point, 'gaslighting' is just a synonym for 'lying' (or in this case, 'making excuses').
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 2d
Although their statement was actually an example of gaslighting. The key component is to try to make the person doubt their own memory.
phar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
Aww man...such a good opportunity to use the wrong definition and you squandered it with whoooosh
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 2d
The APA is famous for spreading fake news. Don't let them fool you, wake up
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 2d
Fake News
UninterestingVoid@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 2d
i think they want to gaslight you into thinking gaslighting isn't real!!1!1!
slaacaa@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2d
They teach that as executive presence in management trainings
boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2d
BreadOven@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
A common misconception. The more historically-accurate term is gaslamping.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works · 61 pts · 2d
Ben Shapiro type logic
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2d
Definitely. Except he didn't add how she hates him because of his freedom.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 2d
Do conservatives still say that? I remember Dubya saying that decades ago - and my wife and I still laugh at that occasionally. Anytime we have a minor convenience it's because someone hates our freedom.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2d
Usually not in those exact words. But everything adjacent to those words. Ben Shapiro repeatedly makes the comment that liberals hate America. Except he can't say liberals. They're the radical left. They're Democrats that hate America. Their DSA the hate America. They hate its abundance. They hate its progress. They hate its free markets. Unfortunately, one of the good things about Ben Shapiro is he does specify who "they" are. And he calls out people who don't specify who "they" are. It's one of the only good things about him.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2d
I always find this stuff funny, but it sucks that so many people hear it and take it seriously. The idea of anyone that doesn't vote Republican just hating America because of our abundance, progress, or freedom is just ridiculous. But I suppose he can't go out there telling the truth or he'd lose his audience.
It's like those graphics you see on Fox News about the "radical left" ideas like free healthcare and affordable housing.
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
He is losing audience. The Tucker/Fuentes right are cannibalizing his audience. Becoming a Trump Supporter didn't help him because he did it right before Trump supporters started thinking Trump wasn't radical enough.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 61 pts · 2d
Wut. Too old for this shit
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 2d
I often think that there’s no way a man could possibly achieve levels of douchebaggery so high that he sends a message like this unironically. Then I get in my car and see large pickup trucks behaving the way they do.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 2d
It's always fun to see people who learned how to debate from posting online bring that energy to real life. Just a fun reminder that sometimes learning something can actually make you more of an idiot.
Sometimes I'm really thankful that my brain was already mostly developed before the Internet became popularized. Lord only knows what my autistic ass would have done with all the terrible information available nowadays.
bort@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 2d
I feel like these people are idiots to begin with, and the fact they learned just pointed then into a different flavor of idiocy
IamMoonPie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
It’s like they have enough intelligence to retain information, but absolutely no ability to form complex thoughts and do anything with said information.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 2d
And yet, I've noticed that people who grew up with computers as opposed to computer-free life tend to radiate higher intelligence.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
Eh, I think that's just due to selection bias. We're at a point where computers are such an integral part of life that the only people who do not know how to operate them are people who chose not to keep up with the times.
I have plenty of older patients who did not grow up with computers, but learned how to operate them later in life because they recognized their importance. They tend to retain much better cognitive function later in life than those who checked out of having new experiences a long time ago.
On the opposite side, I have plenty of younger patients who grew up with computers and are definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 1d
I think there is a drastic difference between what computer counted in the 90s-00s vs now. It was not user friendly, everything was advanced, troubleshooting was engineering, etc., you didn't just push a power button, launch a browser and go to youtube
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
Eh, it wasn't that much different than now. Tbh in some ways it was a bit easier, just because there wasn't as much going on. Really everything windows 95 and after were relatively similar to what most people are using today.
Even before YouTube there were plenty of forums available that would walk you through most any troubleshooting.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1d
Right, but we had forums, we constantly troubleshooted things, we did alot of reading, etc., nowadays average person spends most of that time consuming media, which was borderline a luxury back then.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 1d
I think that depends on the user. In my experience typically one person in the house was computer literate and spent most of their time fixing the damage caused by the mindless surfing of the rest of the household.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 2d
Someone trying really hard to ignore the
transitivesymmetric property.FishFace@piefed.social · 24 pts · 2d
This would be the symmetric property my friend.
Transitive would be: if you're my girlfriend, and you have a girlfriend, then she is my girlfriend.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 2d
My girlfriend?
Our girlfriend.
FishFace@piefed.social · 5 pts · 2d
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2d
Candidate for the American Supreme Court.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2d
Actually hilarious
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 2d
"Fuck that's so stupid why the hell did I date you. Fuck off trash."
hansolo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 2d
I didn't ask to read this post. This post asked to get in front of my eyes. In not saying reading it was right, but don't try to make this post bigger than it was.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 2d
smtg
boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 2d
lolrightythen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
Oh wow, I forgot about this!
BurgerBaron@quokk.au · 1 pts · 2d
Tu Yu is the hardest person to sing Happy Birthday to.
Benign@fedia.io · 1 pts · 2d
There is 'Dang Dat' at my work.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
I imagine them saying, in real life, "sumtig" like an idiot.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Tr, frfr rn. Ofc
MrChewy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
This guy definitely called Saul TT
Zensate@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
When lawyers complain they got a bad rep
AmyAye@nord.pub · 3 pts · 2d
All of the red in the world has been sucked up and consumed and placed into this flag.
reader@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2d
smtg?
stingpie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2d
"something"
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2d
But ... the whole point is making it bigger!
CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social · 2 pts · 2d
Nah, lawyers care what words mean.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2d
We got a Stavvy’s World caller
4am@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2d
lol holy
bran_buckler@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
FishFace@piefed.social · 1 pts · 2d
I am kind of worried that I have said something similar at some point... not to be a fuccboi but just something similarly pedantic and arseholey.
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 2d
There is a real question about whether a relationship should continue after a transition, but doing it over texts and in such a debatey way is kinda weird.
SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 2d
where did you get transition from😭🙏
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 2d
Lmao, I might have read it wrong. I read "I never asked for a girlfriend" as "you were a man, now that you're a woman I can't be with you anymore." 🤣
bran_buckler@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2d
I think the implication is that this guy asked a woman to be his girlfriend, then cheated on her. When he was caught, he said that he only asked if He could be her boyfriend, but never claimed that she was his girlfriend, leaving him free to have other relationships. It’s a twisted logic that’s gaslighting the woman…
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 2d
Yeah, I see that I read it wrong, but Ill leave my message up because it's funny :P
gastroglizzy@piefed.social · 5 pts · 2d
I'm glad you did. I had a giggle
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 9 pts · 2d
Wdym transition?
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2d
I thought they meant transgression but they really did mean transition. Misread it as if the guy had a boyfriend who transitioned, and he didn't want to have a girlfriend.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 3 pts · 2d
Don't feel bad, I kind of thought that's where this was going at first too.