I have all the symptoms of cte after decades out from a very busy and decorated sports life, I have many friends who also suspect they have it.. none of us are as dumb or gullible that idiot.
Also check for brain-eating amoebas. Wouldn’t be surprised if his skull was just a big fluid filled sac with a tiny amount of brain matter squished to the sides.
I had to listen to this episode riding along with some coworkers for a work road trip this week. It's fucking stupid. I don't know how anyone willingly listens to this show. He's full of shit, his guests are full of shit, his sponsors are full of shit. There's a pattern here.
There doesn't exists an agreed upon definition for what we mean by "intelligence" which makes this a bit strange claim to make. What are you actually even saying?
You know, this isn't the greatest argument. Horse Dewormer is an antiparasitic. It's legitimately used by people as an anti-parasitic (also, dogs, and other animals, not just horses). https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html
You can definitely say "joe rogan thinks an anti-parasitic drug works on viruses." but calling it a "horse dewormer" is ignoring the fact that it's actually also a "people dewormer."
I think it would simply decide to get rid of us all, because why actually not? We're killing each other, killing the planet. From a strictly pragmatic point of view it would make things better.
I get what he's saying - like a lot of things he talks about, it only makes sense on a surface level.
A computer is programmed by people, and has assumptions and conditions programmed into it. The people who create the LLM/AI/AGI/Whatever are going to decide what's important and what isn't.
That's literally creating laws and treaties in an overly complicated way, that you probably couldn't predict the outcome of. It's never going to be better than having intelligent, educated, and well supported representatives.
Additionally, government doesn't mean anything unless there's an enforcement arm. It's a terrible idea to concentrate the decision making to one thing, then give it the power to enforce its decisions. That's literally Judgement Day.
Nowhere is it written that an actual AGI system would be aligned with the hopes and desires of its creator. That's a baseless assumption that we shouln't take as gospel.
I don't see him claiming AI would do that. He very clearly says that he hopes this would be the case.
That pretty much aligns with what I said about this a few days back in a different thread:
Humans are inherently flawed. Even the best ones are biased, emotional, irrational and easily manipulated. My (perhaps) unpopular opinion is that politics will never run like a well-oiled machine that treats everyone fairly for as long as they’re run by people.
A truly benign, aligned and independent AGI system is the only thing I can even imagine that could at least in theory offer the kind of governing system we actually need. And I truly mean an independent agent with our well-being as the guiding principle. Not one with an inbuilt bias toward who made it.
Now, whether that’ll ever be actually possible is a different story but the “best case scenario” for a human-run government and an AI-run government are light-years apart.
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dhork@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 3d
Doubtful
concerned@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 3d
Ooga Booga. Unga Bunga.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 3d
Didn't they run a huge scenario between different LLMs just a few months ago and they kept nuking each other?
Edit: Yep.
King's study finds AI chose nuclear signalling in 95% of simulated crises
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 3d
So he's right. AI would end human civilization and stop all wars. Easy.
This is a great example of a broken clock. Arriving at the correct conclusion simply by random chance.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 3d
Someone should check that guys brain for CTE.
BooBees@fedinsfw.app · 25 pts · 3d
I have all the symptoms of cte after decades out from a very busy and decorated sports life, I have many friends who also suspect they have it.. none of us are as dumb or gullible that idiot.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 3d
You're correct. Sorry for the comparison. I wish you well internet stranger.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 1 pts · 3d
Maybe you have never taken cold plunges?🤔
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3d
Also check for brain-eating amoebas. Wouldn’t be surprised if his skull was just a big fluid filled sac with a tiny amount of brain matter squished to the sides.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 3d
it's quite the feat to be the worst cast member on a show that includes andy dick
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
I really enjoyed News Radio however.
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2d
It was a FANTASTIC show. The fact they both Joe AND Andy couldn’t fuck it up is testament to the rest of the cast.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2d
oh newsradio was amazing, khandi and phil are incredible
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2d
Not to pile on, while my TBI at 7 did a lot of bad things, I just keep moving left as I get older. Very far left (at least from a US perspective).
That said, fuck Joe Rogan and all his ilk.
cosmicgorilla@lemmy.sdf.org · 19 pts · 3d
I had to listen to this episode riding along with some coworkers for a work road trip this week. It's fucking stupid. I don't know how anyone willingly listens to this show. He's full of shit, his guests are full of shit, his sponsors are full of shit. There's a pattern here.
stopforgettingit@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 3d
That is because AI, even though it is decidedly not intelligence, is still smarter than Joe Rogan.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · -11 pts · 3d
There doesn't exists an agreed upon definition for what we mean by "intelligence" which makes this a bit strange claim to make. What are you actually even saying?
village604@adultswim.fan · 10 pts · 3d
They're saying Joe Rogan is less intelligent than fancy text prediction.
tabris@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3d
Is that you, Joe?
UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 3d
Joe Rogan is dumb. Why do we care about dumb guy opinions exactly?
verily@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 3d
A lot of people trust him, for some reason.
Marthirial@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 3d
A lot of stupid people trust him, for some reason
FTFY
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 3d
the same people who like watching white nationalists punch each other in the head as entertainment
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 3d
Joe 'Obvious Idiot' Rogan? I'd take his views on MMA and not much else.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 3d
Wasn't he a huge fan of Rousey? A woman who lucked her way in to a top spot and couldn't hold it for 2 full rounds?
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 3d
She didn't luck it. She schooled everyone in judo and they didn't know how to deal with her, until someone did. And then she met Amanda Nunez.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 3d
joe rogan also takes horse deworming medicine
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 3d
Ok but how many horse worms does he have??
Checkmate.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · -6 pts · 3d
You know, this isn't the greatest argument. Horse Dewormer is an antiparasitic. It's legitimately used by people as an anti-parasitic (also, dogs, and other animals, not just horses).
https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html
You can definitely say "joe rogan thinks an anti-parasitic drug works on viruses." but calling it a "horse dewormer" is ignoring the fact that it's actually also a "people dewormer."
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 3d
a respiratory airborne virus isn't a parasite.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · -4 pts · 3d
That has nothing to do with your original claim.
karashta@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 3d
I just watched GPT6 fail to be able to count the number of occurrences of the letter "e" in the word seventeen.
Yeah, that tracks.
kokesh@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 3d
I think it would simply decide to get rid of us all, because why actually not? We're killing each other, killing the planet. From a strictly pragmatic point of view it would make things better.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
At this point, I'm starting to think it's a solid Plan B.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 3d
The same AI model that was used to bomb a girls school?
Does Joe Rogan ever complete an actual thought before opening his dumbass mouth?
ScarlettStunningSpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 2d
Joe Rogan thinks sand tastes better than dirt
regdog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 3d
On this planet there exists no tool box big enough to fit Joe Rogan inside.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
No more wars were needed after humans were extinct...
remon@ani.social · 4 pts · 3d
I mean, I kind of agree ...
MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk · 3 pts · 3d
Sure, we just need one final world war to determine who gets to run that AI.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 3d
I get what he's saying - like a lot of things he talks about, it only makes sense on a surface level.
A computer is programmed by people, and has assumptions and conditions programmed into it. The people who create the LLM/AI/AGI/Whatever are going to decide what's important and what isn't.
That's literally creating laws and treaties in an overly complicated way, that you probably couldn't predict the outcome of. It's never going to be better than having intelligent, educated, and well supported representatives.
Additionally, government doesn't mean anything unless there's an enforcement arm. It's a terrible idea to concentrate the decision making to one thing, then give it the power to enforce its decisions. That's literally Judgement Day.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 3d
Nowhere is it written that an actual AGI system would be aligned with the hopes and desires of its creator. That's a baseless assumption that we shouln't take as gospel.
LocalAreaMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
Whoa..... That's crazy.
spacegoat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
We woyld have avoided the war in Iran if Joe Rogan had killed himself in 2023
Iconoclast@feddit.uk · -7 pts · 3d
I don't see him claiming AI would do that. He very clearly says that he hopes this would be the case.
That pretty much aligns with what I said about this a few days back in a different thread: