You know what I mean? It doesn't have to be harder than that. It used to be how we showed each other what is acceptable and what isn't. That... doesn't seem to "take" anymore.
I'm actually becoming deeply convinced that one of the biggest dangers to the Jewish community is Israel itself.
As things currently stand, they have the power to make people hate Jewish people more than just about anything else in this world.
Not because I'm conflating being Jewish with being Israeli or vice versa, but because that appears to be the message they want to the world to embrace. That is really synonymous with being Jewish.
Look at how quickly right wingers run the world are to jump to calling you anti-Semitic if you don't appreciate something israel does.
Yeah, but I think sometimes people forget that the "fuck israel" has to be derived from "free Palestine" and just get a little carried away feeling comfortable in having someone they're allowed to meaninglessly hate and vilify as the badguy
There's a great quote that you must love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor, and that framing made a big impact on me. So much of the discussion online about plaestine is centered on Israeli atrocities, moreso than Palestinian tragedy and loss.
I get why, but the important thing is the liberation of the Palestinian people. Hatred for their oppressor is meant to come from hatred of their oppression.
No I think Ill make my own choice on that, thanks. If I want to hate the oppressors AND the oppression thats my business. I want vengeance for the afronts to humanity. Its not just all fine if the oppression stops. Debts are now owed in a big way.
Justice should often include consequences (and does include consequences in cases of genocide), but if you set the goal as retribution you may lose sight of what justice would actually entail. They are not at all the same thing.
And if we're choosing between justice and retribution, one of those is a better choice that better honors the suffering of the oppressed than the other.
I'm not saying only do one. I'm saying one of them must come from the other. One of them comes first.
Mossad fucked with EVERYONE'S governments! From USA to Russia. You know, the pedo baby-eater who explicitly mentioned a plan to get rid of the poor.
And Glishaine Maxwell had Mossad awsociation too. Now look what they are doing to Palestine.
Hope you understand, that area needs to be fucking walled off, and anyone prevented from going in. Thanks to the religious nutbags, that entire area is a memetic hazard.
Now I'm not going to say nuke Israel again, but that place needs to be gone one way or another. Idk, deport them to somewhere else, then salt the land and have border guards preventing the place from ever being settled again.
The place you're saying to salt the earth is the stolen land of the Palestinians.
Which, thats kinda exactly what I mean by loosing sight of liberation for the oppressed. You're talking about whether to nuke the (stolen) homeland of a suffering group.
You gotta remember that the point is justice, not retribution. And jutice often should include consequences. But that doesn't make it the same thing as vindictive persecution.
You don't understand, so long as there's some bibble bullshit about endtimes happening in Israel, there will always be someone trying to end the world. That's the specific issue here.
Of course, it's someone else's problem how to solve this ethically 🎵
This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.
Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it's hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn't forget people aren't their governments.
I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.
Dont do that. We all make choices and we are all responsible for our actions. Actions and choices have consequences when those choices harm others. Its the foundation of human society.
If you hold everyone 100% responsible for their actions, including supporting or condoning governments that mess up this world, contributing to global warming, consumption under capitalism, choices they did not foresee the outcome off, mistakes, etc., then there are no decent people in this world at all.
Hate is a multi-billion dollar business in America. The capital class spends obscene amounts of money to keep people hating each other and stoke the culture war. It’s the evolution of the old school union busting on the 1900s.
Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they're indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn't dictate the person
I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.
Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:
That doesn't mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it's even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.
So theres no need to bend over backward to protect the Israeli public. No one assigned these views to them, this is what the vast majority of them choose to believe. many people on this thread try so hard to separate them from their government and assign all the crimes to the government. Except for a tiny majority, this murder and ethnic cleansing is exactly what they say they want and what they support. The problem is not just their governments, its the vast majority of the people too.
I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.
its the entire planet who holds this opinion, not just this website. humanity just hate crimes against humanity, it turns out. Is that surprising to you? It gives me hope that humanity is decent.
Zionism at its heart is a form of violent Fascism, as well as a form of Settler-Colonialism that maintains it's prominence and territorial expansion by commiting genocide.
Zionism should be met with the same vigorous resistance and removal from society as Nazism.
Zionism PREDATES Nazism. Modern political Zionism started in 1897, the Nazi movement didn't begin until the 1920s.
And because SO many people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept and keep shouting their ignorance at us I feel the need to constantly yell back at them:
Anti-Zionism is NOT being anti-Semitic or hating Jews or hating the PEOPLE.
Anti-Nazism is NOT being anti-German or hating Germans or hating the PEOPLE.
Anti-Fascism is NOT being anti people or races or religions or literally ANYTHING except the politics/philosophy/actions/behaviors/hate/control/abuse that is fascism.
We are literally ONLY protesting the genocides, the murder of innocent people, the bombing of civilian areas, the abuse and horric conditions, the hate, the racism, the fear mongering, the lies, the gaslighting, the violence. WE ONLY WANT PEACE FFS!!! STOP CALLING US RACIST FOR WANTING CEASEFIRES!!!
No, you didn't specify what it was you were talking about. My only social media is Lemmy. I did not assume Israeli social media was fucking death videos.
It can’t all be. I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide, and there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.
It's hard to find trustworthy information about Israeli support for the actions of their country in Gaza and the west-bank from 2026, but the numbers that did show up earlier make me sadder everytime. These two article reference the same data, from one year ago. I have no reason to believe Israeli support for the people in Palestine. The small group of people who stand up against war seem to do that mostly because the life of Israeli soldiers (who are conscripted teenagers really). It's unclear to me how well informed the public is about the scale of the war crimes, but it is obvious to everyone the army purposefully targets non-combatants (children, doctors, journalists, civilians) and in general it seems the public supports that.
A new poll published in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reveals that genocidal rhetoric, once confined to Israel’s extremist settler fringe, has now moved into the mainstream, with overwhelming public support for ethnic cleansing, mass killings, and biblical revenge.
Conducted by the Geocartography Knowledge Group for Penn State University in March 2025, the survey of 1,005 Israeli Jews paints a chilling picture of a society increasingly radicalised by religious nationalism and emboldened by war.
The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.
Meanwhile, 47 percent of Israeli Jews answered yes to the question: "Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?" The reference is to the biblical account of the conquest of Jericho.
I see so you not understanding the most basic details of what you are running your mouth about = everyone else's must be racist. Got it. Well I'm real concerned about that accusation.
Correct. It's just fine to despise anyone who's genocidal, regardless of religion, race, species, genus, phylum, kingdom, etc. Because genocide is bad.
Also remember: Netanyahu might be the elected leader but he didn't campaign on doing what he's doing now. Netanyahu and Smodrych are not Israel, just like Trump isn't the US.
I believe this is the wrong template, as the meme is supposed to imply that the person is stating a weak, irrelevant opinion. However, this statement is clearly superior and strong.
That said, communication is fluid as it relies on people essentially “voting” and “agreeing” on the meaning by participating and engaging in it. Therefore I become the person as originally intended in the meme by potentially communicating something irrelavant.
Correct me if I'm wrong.. But don't Zionists say that we're their slaves and after they're done slaughtering innocent Palestinians they're going to try to wipe everyone out that isn't an Israeli?
I'm stretching a bit with my comment but I'm 90% sure that Israel expects us all to just slave for them.
Most western countries are on their knees for Israel..
Can't wait to see how they get in front of Xi Jinping and expect him to bow down.
(Oh.. That's right America will go to war with China to help Israel).
Fuck palestine. A miserably failed British colony, created after colonies weren't cool anymore so they had to call it "Mandate". The people in palestine need help though, because they are obviously unable to help themselves.
It's not that simple. East Germany is still far right politically and votes for authoritarian groups like AfD. The Nazis are gone but their influence is still there.
I get what you are saying and agree on the surface level. But the Nazis that were tried and removed were the leaders, not all the regular Nazi citizens. And Israelis hate Palestinians as much or more than Nazis hated Jews but certainly more than Nazis hated other Germans. And unfortunately it's easier to see on the skin level the difference in who is who. The two shouldn't integrate into a single country is my point.
holy shit do you even know what im talking about? do metaphors just goes straight above your head? here, let me do THE work for you.
The nazis are BAAAAD
The germans, some are GOOOOD
They want BAAAAD people to go away
They want BAAAAAAAD people to be afraid
so they kill, murder, and tribune their problems away
They dont want a two state solution, if it exist, because who the fuck wants to make peace with an organization that kills without care for the sake of glory?
God, Sometimes I thought I was still on reddit. Please think before saying, "not this shit again". Touch grass. Meet real people. Actually, meet palestinians and ask them directly why they dont want a two state solution, which the test of the west wants.
You should probably learn to choose your words more wisely.
Don't belittle the atrocities of the nazis by comparing their victims to them. It's fucking disgusting.
What a brilliant idea. Ask the israelis if they want a two state solution. What do you think the answer will be? Find peace in a compromise that stops the killings.
I compared the fights to the atrocities in the balkans, which is a WAY more apt metaphor, but you also don't seem like the kind of person that reads about conflicts. It seems that you just want to follow the edgy opinion without thought.
Great question! Before October 7th terror strikes, Hamas had been funded by
Iran (principal military sponsor)
Qatar
Multiple private donors all over the world
Taxes from Gaza (since they were the primary government there)
Overseas investments
You are alluding to the borderline antisemitic conspiracy theory that Israel was funding Hamas, which is almost true, since they allowed Qatari money to flow in their hands. Israel has not funded Hamas directly, however. Still a bad decision by Benjamin Netanjahu though, in retrospect.
Why was Hamas created?
Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood, as an uprising to the Israeli occupation of Gaza. Its primary reason of being was to compete against the more secular Fatah/PLO. In contrast, Hamas is explicitly Islamist. Israel again allowed this to happen, which in retrospect was perhaps a mistake. This is also the basis of another rather crazy conspiracy theory, namely that of Israel creating Hamas for some convoluted plot that would allow them eventually to conquer all of Gaza, or something.
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SarahValentine@pawb.social · 150 pts · 4d
Love me jews
Hate Israel
Simple as
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 4d
I’m a simple man.
I see people being nice, I respect them. I see people hurting others I say fuck ‘em.
victorz@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 4d
You know what I mean? It doesn't have to be harder than that. It used to be how we showed each other what is acceptable and what isn't. That... doesn't seem to "take" anymore.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 4d
You would think a group that suffered the most horrific treatment from the nazis would do the exact opposite, not improve on their playbook
That “never forget” slogan seems to mean “shoot first so they can’t” lately.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
They missed the part about "turn the other cheek". Maybe that's not in their religion, eh.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 4d
I'm actually becoming deeply convinced that one of the biggest dangers to the Jewish community is Israel itself.
As things currently stand, they have the power to make people hate Jewish people more than just about anything else in this world.
Not because I'm conflating being Jewish with being Israeli or vice versa, but because that appears to be the message they want to the world to embrace. That is really synonymous with being Jewish.
Look at how quickly right wingers run the world are to jump to calling you anti-Semitic if you don't appreciate something israel does.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social · 14 pts · 4d
Classic antisemitism.
WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 4d
Classic SatansMaggotyCumFart.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 71 pts · 4d
And even more importantly:
FREE PALESTINE!
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 22 pts · 4d
From the river to the sea
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 2d
somehow, that is not classified as genocidal..
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 2d
What being free? Nope, especially if it’s also history for thousands of years
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 4d
Ideally you would do both.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 18 pts · 4d
Yeah, but I think sometimes people forget that the "fuck israel" has to be derived from "free Palestine" and just get a little carried away feeling comfortable in having someone they're allowed to meaninglessly hate and vilify as the badguy
There's a great quote that you must love the oppressed more than you hate the oppressor, and that framing made a big impact on me. So much of the discussion online about plaestine is centered on Israeli atrocities, moreso than Palestinian tragedy and loss.
I get why, but the important thing is the liberation of the Palestinian people. Hatred for their oppressor is meant to come from hatred of their oppression.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
No I think Ill make my own choice on that, thanks. If I want to hate the oppressors AND the oppression thats my business. I want vengeance for the afronts to humanity. Its not just all fine if the oppression stops. Debts are now owed in a big way.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 2d
Justice should often include consequences (and does include consequences in cases of genocide), but if you set the goal as retribution you may lose sight of what justice would actually entail. They are not at all the same thing.
And if we're choosing between justice and retribution, one of those is a better choice that better honors the suffering of the oppressed than the other.
I'm not saying only do one. I'm saying one of them must come from the other. One of them comes first.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 4d
Mossad fucked with EVERYONE'S governments! From USA to Russia. You know, the pedo baby-eater who explicitly mentioned a plan to get rid of the poor.
And Glishaine Maxwell had Mossad awsociation too. Now look what they are doing to Palestine.
Hope you understand, that area needs to be fucking walled off, and anyone prevented from going in. Thanks to the religious nutbags, that entire area is a memetic hazard.
Now I'm not going to say nuke Israel again, but that place needs to be gone one way or another. Idk, deport them to somewhere else, then salt the land and have border guards preventing the place from ever being settled again.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 4d
The place you're saying to salt the earth is the stolen land of the Palestinians.
Which, thats kinda exactly what I mean by loosing sight of liberation for the oppressed. You're talking about whether to nuke the (stolen) homeland of a suffering group.
You gotta remember that the point is justice, not retribution. And jutice often should include consequences. But that doesn't make it the same thing as vindictive persecution.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 4d
You don't understand, so long as there's some bibble bullshit about endtimes happening in Israel, there will always be someone trying to end the world. That's the specific issue here.
Of course, it's someone else's problem how to solve this ethically 🎵
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2d
moron.
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 52 pts · 4d
This is another good example of saying “Fuck (country name)” they’re usually talking about the government of that country, and not necessarily the citizens. For example, Russia can fuck right off, but I’d expect that most Russian citizens are decent people who are merely drowning in propaganda. Lots of people are, all around the world.
bryophile@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 4d
Yes even US Americans are probably just decent people generally. I know it's hard to imagine with some of these countries but we shouldn't forget people aren't their governments.
EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 4d
To be fair, at least 1/3 of us are the deplorables who got us here.
bryophile@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 4d
And even they are mostly decent people, just misguided by propaganda/misinformation.
UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
I don’t think anyone not living in America understands how deeply propaganda is pushed here across media and culture. The ruling class has distorted everything so much it’s hard to have a coherent conversation with most people on real issues. The misinformation and capital class talking points are intensely deep seated.
bryophile@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 4d
I think it's pretty obvious for us here outside the US too. It is like bad body odour, it is harder to notice when you're inside it and used to it.
Not that we are not used to our stench for that matter.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3d
Eh, the rest of the western world aren't really any better in this regard, as much as they try to pretend that they are
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
Dont do that. We all make choices and we are all responsible for our actions. Actions and choices have consequences when those choices harm others. Its the foundation of human society.
bryophile@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2d
If you hold everyone 100% responsible for their actions, including supporting or condoning governments that mess up this world, contributing to global warming, consumption under capitalism, choices they did not foresee the outcome off, mistakes, etc., then there are no decent people in this world at all.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
No. I've had several people admit to me that the hatred is the point.
Anyine who still supports this regime is supporting them because of the hatred.
yucandu@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 4d
Most people aren't born hateful. They're taught it, and you can unteach it too.
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4d
I judge people based on their choices and actions.
Some have chosen to embrace the hatred. And so I judge them for it.
At this point in my life, I'm not interested in attempting to redeem people who have chosen evil.
UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
Hate is a multi-billion dollar business in America. The capital class spends obscene amounts of money to keep people hating each other and stoke the culture war. It’s the evolution of the old school union busting on the 1900s.
bryophile@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 4d
So you're hating them back? That'll teach them!
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 4d
Their comments are kind of easy to pick out luckily.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 4d
Yeah, Americans can be insufferable but I try to consider that they're indoctrinated from birth and people be people. Birthplace doesn't dictate the person
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 4d
I take that approach for almost countries, but I have a hard time with Israel because their polls continue to show 80%+ support for the genocide. That’s a huge portion of the population to be irredeemable.
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 4d
Same for Russia
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 3d
I think you’ll find that support for the regime outside of Moscow is poor.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 3d
Source?
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 4d
I thought it was 90%
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 4d
Where did you read that?
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 4d
Comments on either here or one of the others
Doesn’t matter 80 is well enough and both track
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3d
Might have been confusing the stats for pro-genocide vs "merely" pro-aparthied
yucandu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
They support what they believe. They believe anything bad being reported is just antisemitism.
Jordan117@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 4d
Tbh, Israelis as a whole invite a lot of hate upon themselves by wholeheartedly supporting outright genocide. Public polling there shows a disturbingly large number of even young, secular Israelis advocate for killing everyone in Gaza, including women and children:
https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis
https://theconversation.com/in-israel-calls-for-genocide-have-migrated-from-the-margins-to-the-mainstream-250010
That doesn't mean every Israeli or every Jewish person is culpable or suspect, ofc. But I think it's even more justifiable to distrust the country as a whole as it is to distrust the US electorate after re-electing Trump. Netanyahu is corrupt and bloodthirsty, but his policies still enjoy broad support from voters there.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
82% of Israelis support the ethnic cleansing of All Palestinians, which is a textbook crime against humanity.
56% support removing every arab/Palestinian CITIZEN of Israel from israel permanently, and revoking their Israeli citizenship based on their race.
47% agreed with the idea of killing every single Palestinian like the biblical wars in their book.
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans
So theres no need to bend over backward to protect the Israeli public. No one assigned these views to them, this is what the vast majority of them choose to believe. many people on this thread try so hard to separate them from their government and assign all the crimes to the government. Except for a tiny majority, this murder and ethnic cleansing is exactly what they say they want and what they support. The problem is not just their governments, its the vast majority of the people too.
MrNobody@quokk.au · 0 pts · 4d
I fully mean fuck the state and the people of Israel. May their country be destroyed and the lands returned to the Palestinians. Israelis can go flee to the US or something for all I care.
endless_nameless@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 4d
Very brave of you to take a stand against Israel on The Israel Hating Website
Truthtwopower@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 4d
All my homies hate isreal.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 7 pts · 4d
I mean at this point half the internet is The Israel Hating Website. The days when anti-Zionism was restricted to leftists and Muslims are long gone.
NewDark@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 4d
Tbf it's "fuck Israel o'clock"... It's most places.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
its the entire planet who holds this opinion, not just this website. humanity just hate crimes against humanity, it turns out. Is that surprising to you? It gives me hope that humanity is decent.
boobookittyfrick@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 4d
content_educator_94@thelemmy.club · 25 pts · 4d
Zionism is equivalent to Nazism.
Zionism at its heart is a form of violent Fascism, as well as a form of Settler-Colonialism that maintains it's prominence and territorial expansion by commiting genocide.
Zionism should be met with the same vigorous resistance and removal from society as Nazism.
Zionism PREDATES Nazism. Modern political Zionism started in 1897, the Nazi movement didn't begin until the 1920s.
Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org · 15 pts · 3d
And because SO many people can't seem to wrap their heads around this concept and keep shouting their ignorance at us I feel the need to constantly yell back at them:
Anti-Zionism is NOT being anti-Semitic or hating Jews or hating the PEOPLE.
Anti-Nazism is NOT being anti-German or hating Germans or hating the PEOPLE.
Anti-Fascism is NOT being anti people or races or religions or literally ANYTHING except the politics/philosophy/actions/behaviors/hate/control/abuse that is fascism.
We are literally ONLY protesting the genocides, the murder of innocent people, the bombing of civilian areas, the abuse and horric conditions, the hate, the racism, the fear mongering, the lies, the gaslighting, the violence. WE ONLY WANT PEACE FFS!!! STOP CALLING US RACIST FOR WANTING CEASEFIRES!!!
content_educator_94@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 3d
Absolutely, I couldn't have said it better myself
foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev · 1 pts · 3d
while both of you are only bullshitting the echo chamber
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 3d
The truth always escapes the echo chamber and rises into the collective consciousness. That applies to all of us, including you.
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
eyekaytee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 3d
Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 4d
Zionism =/= Judaism
Aka fuck isreal
Free palestine
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 11 pts · 4d
This would've been a mildly hot take three or even two years ago, but in 2026 it's thoroughly milquetoast.
Malica@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 3d
Fuck Zionists full stop
Hatchepsut@piefed.social · 10 pts · 4d
QueenHawlSera@piefed.social · 8 pts · 4d
Palestine has a right to defend itself
deeprlyeh@lemmus.org · 8 pts · 4d
We need to share social media feeds from Israel, posted by Israels. Some interest stuff in there.
phar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
Examples?
deeprlyeh@lemmus.org · 0 pts · 4d
I’m not posting that stuff or giving links to it. Trying to get me banned for posting death videos and racism?
phar@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 4d
No, you didn't specify what it was you were talking about. My only social media is Lemmy. I did not assume Israeli social media was fucking death videos.
deeprlyeh@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 4d
They post videos like it is 1950s USA. Screaming about killing children and getting rid of their blood line. Its wild.
magnetosphere@fedia.io · 2 pts · 4d
It can’t all be. I know there are many Israelis who are against genocide, and there have been protests against the governments treatment of Palestinians.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 4d
It's hard to find trustworthy information about Israeli support for the actions of their country in Gaza and the west-bank from 2026, but the numbers that did show up earlier make me sadder everytime. These two article reference the same data, from one year ago. I have no reason to believe Israeli support for the people in Palestine. The small group of people who stand up against war seem to do that mostly because the life of Israeli soldiers (who are conscripted teenagers really). It's unclear to me how well informed the public is about the scale of the war crimes, but it is obvious to everyone the army purposefully targets non-combatants (children, doctors, journalists, civilians) and in general it seems the public supports that.
https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll
Let that headline sink in: Nearly half of Israelis support army killing all Palestinians in Gaza.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 3d
Eh, not really. There are some, but polling shows that a super majority support the genocide?
There have been some small ones, but even them are mostly "genocide is too far, it should just be permanent apartheid"
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
You should really know these stats by now. Especially if you are going to be here advocating one side of it. https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/poll-show-most-jewish-israelis-support-expelling-gazans
magnetosphere@fedia.io · -2 pts · 2d
Advocating one side? Seriously? Sorry I’m not racist enough for you.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
I see so you not understanding the most basic details of what you are running your mouth about = everyone else's must be racist. Got it. Well I'm real concerned about that accusation.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 2d
remember: hating Israel ≠ hating jews
CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 2d
Correct. It's just fine to despise anyone who's genocidal, regardless of religion, race, species, genus, phylum, kingdom, etc. Because genocide is bad.
OriginalTangle@feddit.org · 2 pts · 2d
Also remember: Netanyahu might be the elected leader but he didn't campaign on doing what he's doing now. Netanyahu and Smodrych are not Israel, just like Trump isn't the US.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
They dont represent 100% of Israels public opinion, but polls say they do represent about 80%. Thats a whole lot of racist murderers.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 3d
Im just going to say it.
I dont think about isreal very often. Only when im online, I guess.
ActualGrapesTasteGreen@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 4d
Was this meme from a video? I've seen it for years but just realized I don't think I've seen what it's from. Anybody know?
felsiq@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 4d
It’s from a vine, details here. Basically a bunch of kids baiting this kid into saying “I don’t care that you broke your elbow”
huppakee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4d
RIP vine, still mourning
felsiq@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 4d
If it was still around I’d definitely hate it, but damn do I miss what could have been anyway
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 3d
I am just gonna say it too:
Fuck society
Fuck humans
Fuck this Saturday (*depending on timezone)
Can't we just fucking live in a sort of harmony? PLEASE.
multiplemigs@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 3d
best i can do is knock-off sci-fi dystopia with a lil taste of broke.
xkbx@startrek.website · 5 pts · 4d
I believe this is the wrong template, as the meme is supposed to imply that the person is stating a weak, irrelevant opinion. However, this statement is clearly superior and strong.
That said, communication is fluid as it relies on people essentially “voting” and “agreeing” on the meaning by participating and engaging in it. Therefore I become the person as originally intended in the meme by potentially communicating something irrelavant.
Ah, the self-own. Myself, how I have burned thee
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 3d
Fuck USA too, fuck all these murder countries killing people.
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com · 6 pts · 3d
Fuck Gargamel, let the Smurfs live in peace
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 3d
Finally! Someoen said it!
BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 3d
Correct me if I'm wrong.. But don't Zionists say that we're their slaves and after they're done slaughtering innocent Palestinians they're going to try to wipe everyone out that isn't an Israeli?
I'm stretching a bit with my comment but I'm 90% sure that Israel expects us all to just slave for them.
Most western countries are on their knees for Israel.. Can't wait to see how they get in front of Xi Jinping and expect him to bow down.
(Oh.. That's right America will go to war with China to help Israel).
Fuck Israel
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2d
https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-jews-exist-to-serve-jews/
musubibreakfast@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
I guess I'm moving to China, because fuck that.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 2d
Every extremist group has similar goals. You probably don't want to learn about Islamic groups if Zionist groups are shocking to you.
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2d
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2d
Allero@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 3d
Y'all so brave saying that. Care saying "Fuck Palestine" in these places?
jk, Free Palestine!
abc@suppo.fi · 0 pts · 3d
Fuck palestine. A miserably failed British colony, created after colonies weren't cool anymore so they had to call it "Mandate". The people in palestine need help though, because they are obviously unable to help themselves.
Allero@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 3d
Gotta admit you're good at this
dismay3915@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
STOP THE ANTISEMETISM 😭😭😭😭 /s
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
Damn, son. You went there!
Jumi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 4d
I think not, fucking is something beautiful and way to nice for them
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
Agreed! FUCK ISRAEL!
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4d
2 state solution.
No more Iran and US intervention.
Sanctions on Israel to rebuild.
If they managed peace in the balkans, then you can find peace anywhere.
fogetaboutit@programming.dev · 4 pts · 4d
Would germany want a 2 state solutions with the nazis? No. They obliterated them and send them to a tribunal.
No more nazis as a state. Now the modern germany exists.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 3d
It's not that simple. East Germany is still far right politically and votes for authoritarian groups like AfD. The Nazis are gone but their influence is still there.
I get what you are saying and agree on the surface level. But the Nazis that were tried and removed were the leaders, not all the regular Nazi citizens. And Israelis hate Palestinians as much or more than Nazis hated Jews but certainly more than Nazis hated other Germans. And unfortunately it's easier to see on the skin level the difference in who is who. The two shouldn't integrate into a single country is my point.
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
This shit again.
No, Israel isn't Nazi germany. Nor is Hamas for that matter.
fogetaboutit@programming.dev · -4 pts · 3d
holy shit do you even know what im talking about? do metaphors just goes straight above your head? here, let me do THE work for you.
The nazis are BAAAAD The germans, some are GOOOOD They want BAAAAD people to go away They want BAAAAAAAD people to be afraid so they kill, murder, and tribune their problems away
They dont want a two state solution, if it exist, because who the fuck wants to make peace with an organization that kills without care for the sake of glory?
God, Sometimes I thought I was still on reddit. Please think before saying, "not this shit again". Touch grass. Meet real people. Actually, meet palestinians and ask them directly why they dont want a two state solution, which the test of the west wants.
teslasaur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
You should probably learn to choose your words more wisely.
Don't belittle the atrocities of the nazis by comparing their victims to them. It's fucking disgusting.
What a brilliant idea. Ask the israelis if they want a two state solution. What do you think the answer will be? Find peace in a compromise that stops the killings.
I compared the fights to the atrocities in the balkans, which is a WAY more apt metaphor, but you also don't seem like the kind of person that reads about conflicts. It seems that you just want to follow the edgy opinion without thought.
foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev · 0 pts · 3d
okay this is far beyond dumbness just gonna say it was a three state solution
abc@suppo.fi · -1 pts · 3d
Yep. And Hamas is the Nazis in this analogy.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 3d
Who funded Hamas? Why was Hamas created? Bet you won't answer my questions.
abc@suppo.fi · 1 pts · 2d
Great question! Before October 7th terror strikes, Hamas had been funded by
You are alluding to the borderline antisemitic conspiracy theory that Israel was funding Hamas, which is almost true, since they allowed Qatari money to flow in their hands. Israel has not funded Hamas directly, however. Still a bad decision by Benjamin Netanjahu though, in retrospect.
Hamas grew out of the Muslim Brotherhood, as an uprising to the Israeli occupation of Gaza. Its primary reason of being was to compete against the more secular Fatah/PLO. In contrast, Hamas is explicitly Islamist. Israel again allowed this to happen, which in retrospect was perhaps a mistake. This is also the basis of another rather crazy conspiracy theory, namely that of Israel creating Hamas for some convoluted plot that would allow them eventually to conquer all of Gaza, or something.
Hope you didn't bet more than you can afford.
SwissArmyKazoo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 3d
Terrorist states that indukge in mass genocide should not be institutionalised as diplomacy.
"DSA JOE!"
modus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3d
huppakee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 4d
This describes a daily urge of mine
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 4d
That truly is something that just needs to be said
Enzy@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 4d
No thanks I don't wanna fuck a whole country
Aedaz_@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 4d
Wow so brave.
I mean I agree.
But like. Ok, cool.