Rather than the sound of water, it seems to refer to the throat of the statue through which water passes, which sounds like gargle in several languages. Several sites say it's an onomatopoeia for the statue gargling water but I can't find that reference specifically, except that the root words for gargle from Latin might be an onomatopoeia for the sound of gargling.
If the statue is purely ornamental without the function for water to pass through it, it's called a grotesque, chimera, or boss, so obviously I'm going to call them all bosses now.
Haha, I really want to show someone around New York or some larger city and point up and just be like "and you can see four bosses up there" and then get to explain what I mean.
I wonder if those lions in front of libraries are bosses too, or if bosses have to be rooftop statues?
Sandwiches are named after a Welsh peasant dish that originally consisted of witch meat between two bricks of baked sand. It was terrible and offered little nutritional value, but was very popular due to the great availability of witch meat and lack of any real alternatives for nourishment.
Additional fun fact: "sandwich" is a degraded version of the original Welsh spelling, which is "syynndwrrrccchhchch," and which was originally pronounced "klerb."
lol I had a coworker show me this and we went crazy with it.
The only food I could think of that didn’t fall into any of the categories is Shepards pie. Starch only on the top. What do you think it should fall under?
My headcanon is that Earl of Sandwich had a dream one night where some mystery people from Sahara, the Sand Witches, showed up, and went like "yesss, a slice of bread, yesss, now put some stuff on it, yesss, maybe more slices of bread and more stuff and so on but that is optional. But we must go. Bye!" And thus was born a simple delicacy known worldwide.
The sandwich is named for the sound of gargling dry white bread and overly processed deli meats that sandwich eaters made before the invention of garlic aoli.
The weird thing about the origin of the word sandwich is that everyone had been eating them for centuries, but one day the Earl of Sandwich orders one and they say, "it takes too long to say bread-and-meat, let's just call it a sandwich."
By the way, no one knows for sure the etymology of 'squid.'
There are a bunch of animal names like that. Notably "dog" and "chicken" just showed up without any real source. In middle English we have hounds, and fowls/cocks/hens. It's strange for domestic animals that have been around forever to get renamed afor no apparent reason.
I don't know what "squyrde" is, but it doesn't show up in any etymological source I've ever seen.
For example:
squid (n.)
"ten-armed marine mollusk, cuttlefish," 1610s, a word of unknown origin. Klein's sources suggest it is a sailors' variant of squirt and so called for the "ink" it jets.
Those are two different words though. If the OP had said they were related I wouldn't protest because they likely are. But they stated it as a fact, which we do not know to be true.
In french, gargoyle is “gargouille”. The verb to gargle is “gargouiller”. Used in a sentence, the word is the exact same. “Il se gargouille”/“He gargles”.
I don’t know, to me it seems pretty clear they’re related.
I mean, that can be said for literally everything, no? What kind of proof would you need? Everything about languages and the evolution of words is studied by experts, and I am not one of them, so what else can I do but take their word for it?
If you look up their ethymology online, they are both from the same word. The wikitionary entry also claims it does come from it.
https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/gargouille
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edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 156 pts · 2y
Also, it's only a true gargoyle if it comes from the gargling region of France. Anything else is just a sparkling grotesque.
cyborganism@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 2y
Gargouille.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works · 69 pts · 2y
Etymology of the word gargoyle, for anyone else who read the linked list in its entirety and found that gargoyle is not on it:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/gargoyle
Rather than the sound of water, it seems to refer to the throat of the statue through which water passes, which sounds like gargle in several languages. Several sites say it's an onomatopoeia for the statue gargling water but I can't find that reference specifically, except that the root words for gargle from Latin might be an onomatopoeia for the sound of gargling.
If the statue is purely ornamental without the function for water to pass through it, it's called a grotesque, chimera, or boss, so obviously I'm going to call them all bosses now.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 2y
Garganta means throat in Spanish, so I've learnt something about the origins of that word now :)
Brickhead92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Like a boss!
Varyk@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 2y
Haha, I really want to show someone around New York or some larger city and point up and just be like "and you can see four bosses up there" and then get to explain what I mean.
I wonder if those lions in front of libraries are bosses too, or if bosses have to be rooftop statues?
vamputer@infosec.pub · 64 pts · 2y
Sandwiches are named after a Welsh peasant dish that originally consisted of witch meat between two bricks of baked sand. It was terrible and offered little nutritional value, but was very popular due to the great availability of witch meat and lack of any real alternatives for nourishment.
slampisko@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 2y
I don't know enough Welsh to refute this
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 2y
Additional fun fact: "sandwich" is a degraded version of the original Welsh spelling, which is "syynndwrrrccchhchch," and which was originally pronounced "klerb."
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 2y
Onomatopoeia is itself an onomatopoeia because that's the sound it makes when you say the word.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 2y
That's how most words work though?
aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 2y
Not in fucking english lol
FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
Welll my friend Tony goes by the nickname Ptoniegh, so he can probably back you up
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
All of the best ones
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 2y
Sandwiches are named after the Earl of Sandwich right? Have there been further developments?
PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee · 72 pts · 2y
He’s still dead.
qjkxbmwvz@lemmy.sdf.org · 32 pts · 2y
::: spoiler Thanks but Next time please use the spoiler tag, sheesh 🙄 :::
nifty@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 2y
We keep finding more and more variations to eat.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 21 pts · 2y
Like hot dogs and tacos, depending on your sandwich alignment.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 2y
I believe in cube rule supremacy
f314@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
No, no! Salad Theory is clearly the only acceptable foodstuff categorization theory.
Stache_@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 2y
lol I had a coworker show me this and we went crazy with it.
The only food I could think of that didn’t fall into any of the categories is Shepards pie. Starch only on the top. What do you think it should fall under?
Stache_@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 2y
upside down/Australian toast?
umbraroze@kbin.social · 6 pts · 2y
My headcanon is that Earl of Sandwich had a dream one night where some mystery people from Sahara, the Sand Witches, showed up, and went like "yesss, a slice of bread, yesss, now put some stuff on it, yesss, maybe more slices of bread and more stuff and so on but that is optional. But we must go. Bye!" And thus was born a simple delicacy known worldwide.
cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 2y
In the sequel, there's a man in a suit with a giant pingpong ball for a head.
sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf · 6 pts · 2y
None
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 2y
The sandwich is named for the sound of gargling dry white bread and overly processed deli meats that sandwich eaters made before the invention of garlic aoli.
BossDj@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 2y
Anyone else picture a drooling Homer Simpson?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 2y
The weird thing about the origin of the word sandwich is that everyone had been eating them for centuries, but one day the Earl of Sandwich orders one and they say, "it takes too long to say bread-and-meat, let's just call it a sandwich."
By the way, no one knows for sure the etymology of 'squid.'
Anticorp@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
Squid is a perfect description of a squid though. So whoever came up with that one, nailed it!
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 2y
There are a bunch of animal names like that. Notably "dog" and "chicken" just showed up without any real source. In middle English we have hounds, and fowls/cocks/hens. It's strange for domestic animals that have been around forever to get renamed afor no apparent reason.
Cort@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Huh, I just assumed chicken was chick+hen
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
I could've swore dog came from the old Scottish word dug. Which was another word for dog
Sorgan71@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
not true, squid come from squyrde
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
I don't know what "squyrde" is, but it doesn't show up in any etymological source I've ever seen.
For example:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/squid
Sorgan71@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
Yes. Thats where squyrde comes from
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
Squyrde comes from Squirtle
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 2y
Wait until you learn about the origin of OK.
lemonuri@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 2y
I'd heard the sandwich story before, but had no clew about some of the others!
Pretzilla@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y
Surely, the clew is the corner of the sail where the sheet attaches, but that isn't important right now
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
"Stop calling me Shirley."
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 2y
https://www.etymonline.com/word/clue#etymonline_v_13857
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch · 6 pts · 2y
Huh? I thoght ancient greeks played with the idea of democracy but were mostly monarchistic?
CheesyFox@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
ostracheese
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Mmmm. Cheese from ostrich milk
stockRot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Athens was a democracy, at least for a little bit
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 2y
Totally interesting until you look it up to find there's no truth to it.
RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 2y
It's kinda true, but less exciting than the person made it sound.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/gargoyle
https://www.etymonline.com/word/gargle
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y
Those are two different words though. If the OP had said they were related I wouldn't protest because they likely are. But they stated it as a fact, which we do not know to be true.
SorryQuick@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y
In french, gargoyle is “gargouille”. The verb to gargle is “gargouiller”. Used in a sentence, the word is the exact same. “Il se gargouille”/“He gargles”.
I don’t know, to me it seems pretty clear they’re related.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
Related yes, "comes from" (the claim made here) we don't know that for sure
SorryQuick@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2y
I mean, that can be said for literally everything, no? What kind of proof would you need? Everything about languages and the evolution of words is studied by experts, and I am not one of them, so what else can I do but take their word for it?
If you look up their ethymology online, they are both from the same word. The wikitionary entry also claims it does come from it. https://fr.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/gargouille
RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 2y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdD206eSv0