or cult, I don't see difference

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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 76 pts · 2y (3 replies)

God doesn't work. Linux does. Prayers to God are left unanswered. Prayers to Linux are accepted via well defined interfaces and answered if you have the correct permissions.

GiveOver@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 2y

God actually does answer prayers but they get blocked by ufw

Mesophar@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y

Praise be to the Omnissiah!

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 2y

Tbf, God might consider prayers based on how they'll affect the underlying system as a whole, because any human being with sudo rights would be a massive problem in no time.

Linux might be more appealing to some because by default it assumes you're a god and fully understand the ramifications of whatever you're asking of it. We're wired to enjoy instant gratification, even if it leads to disaster. :p

snek@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 2y (20 replies)

Religion is about shit that is not real. Linux is about good engineering and open source software.

Big fat downvote for this pathetic attempt st being provocative.

tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y (13 replies)

Religion is about shit that is not real

"Year of Linux on Desktop"

"Better than Windows"

"Linux is easy"

"You never need to use the terminal"

"Everything you need runs on Linux"

"Android IS Linux, therefore is the most popular OS"

Yeah, sounds like religion to me.

Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee · 18 pts · 2y

Year of Linux on Desktop

More of a meme than anything else

Better than Windows

Well yeah, it is in almost every way.

Linux is easy

It’s not particularly hard.

You never need to use the terminal

Yeah, that’s just a lie.

Everything you need runs

Depends what you need

Android IS Linux

Well, it is.

snek@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y (7 replies)

Except all of it is true and tested. :/

Ps: have you ever heard anyone say "Islam/Sikhism/AnyOtherReligion is easy"?

No. Because it's a really dumb comparison.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y

Lol none of that was true, though. That was the entire joke.

tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Talking like a true believer, thank you for making my point.

snek@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better.

tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Sure, whatever. I have no horse in this race, I just enjoy watching the meltdown over an OS.

snek@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y

The meltdown is over really crappy logic.

Titou@feddit.de · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Talking like a true believer, thank you for making my point.

Remember kids, don't hesitate to use the "elitism" card when you're loosing an linux argument

tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 2y

Remember kids, don't hesitate to use the "elitism" card when you're loosing an linux argument

I didn't realise it was a competition. BTW, how do someone loose an argument? By making generic points? By making it less specific?

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Naw

Yea

Get gud

Terminal is the shit

Well it could, fuck adobe

Ehh no not really

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 2y

Lol yeah, it's JUST Adobe. Okay.

neidu2@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 2y

StrawnmanOS released soon?

poinck@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 2y

Android is crap and Linux is better not mentioned together with it. I want a true Linux phone with gnome-shell as a user interface!

Sadly existing phones don't fit in my pocket and have a very bad battery life.

IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

You seem like a fun person.

snek@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 2y

I am fun, just not in the presence of bs and cheap jokes.

Waffelson@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 2y (3 replies)

I mean, people's attitude towards linux here is similar to religion

Voyajer@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y

This is a meme community, I'm not sure what you're expecting.

snek@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y

Sure, but then your meme format isn't reflecting that so clearly.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 2y

Nope.

The attitude here is the same as the attitude towards anything that really works and it works really well so people love to recommend it. This happens to many other things and products.

tubaruco@lemm.ee · 65 pts · 2y (4 replies)

no, linux is the kernel. "free software" is the religion

(but seriously, theres nothing here that could be called a religion, that would be like saying d&d is a religion or a cult because a lot of people like it, or like calling any community a religion. it makes no sense)

dudinax@programming.dev · 25 pts · 2y (1 reply)

The difference between Linux and a cult is that Linus Torvalds actually did what he said he'd do.

MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 2y

Yeah he doesn't have a creepy harem while making promises about wacky rituals granting access to "The Ultimate Repository," while telling you to cut ties with any non-Linux friends. (Yes, even BSD.)

Then we could start worrying. Lol

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Even free software isn't, because free software delivers objective, non-placebo benefits to people, whether they "practice it" or not. Even when they don't consciously participate or are even aware of it.

tubaruco@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y

yeah i put the stuff inside () because i want people to know nothing here and nothing related is a religion

cloudless@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 2y (6 replies)

If it is a religion, then it is a very fragmented one.

tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 2y (2 replies)

So, exactly like a religion.

Voyajer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y (1 reply)

This implies there is only one true distro and the rest are attempts to misguide you into using closed source software

femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 2y

(It's void)

IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 2y

My brother in Christ, have you seen the history of the 3 major religions on this planet?

esc27@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Do you have any idea how many denominations of Christianity there are? And most of them are open source.

Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 2y

I would rather say that Christianity is open source, but it's distributed with the MIT license and every relevant implementation is closed source and plants DRM software all over the system

homura1650@lemm.ee · 33 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 2y

Amen.

pbsds@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 2y (3 replies)

The Linux source, coc and governance continues to be improved upon, while the religious scripture and institutions mainly stay fixed

CriticalMiss@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y

Debian stable

lefaucet@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 2y

King James stable

EndlessKnotBoi@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y

clash of clans?

Rustmilian@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 2y (4 replies)
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KISSmyOS@feddit.de · 20 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Prepare to be disappointed. This is how Linux disciples have sex (SFW).

Diplomjodler@feddit.de · 12 pts · 2y

Stop it! I can only get so hard!

gilarelli@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 2y

🥵

towerful@programming.dev · 8 pts · 2y

You have to become a 4th level sysadmin, and donate at least 3 accepted PR to the kernel in chief in order to get an invite

z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Landless2029@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

Holy crap that's actually a fantastic image in my head...

Some people would think it's a religion cause linux isn't a household name.

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 2y
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CubitOom@infosec.pub · 23 pts · 2y (4 replies)

The true cultists are emacs users...and we keep getting stronger.

mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 2y

We belive in St. IGNUcious!

nobody158@r.nf · 2 pts · 2y (2 replies)

VIM forever! Emacs is blasphemy!

CubitOom@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Have you heard of evil-mode?

nobody158@r.nf · 2 pts · 2y

I hadn't. That is awesome.

ChiefSinner@lemm.ee · 21 pts · 2y

People can and do make idols of anything, but Linux in itself is not a religion.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Torvold's is still alive right?

Cults are religions whose founders are still alive.

user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 9 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Not rather Richard Stallman (if we're not talking about the kernel)?

galoisghost@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 2y

And Stallman took skin from his foot, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, ‘Take and eat; this is my body.’

KISSmyOS@feddit.de · 10 pts · 2y

He's the one who was prophesized in the GNU testament.

FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y

Okay, so we have two prophets. Unconventional, I know, but I think you can see the advantages. For example, vacations in aruba.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 2y (4 replies)

If Linux is a religion like Christianity then I expect Jesus to appear in front of me right now and double my fishes.

Linux works, Christianity does not.

Moshpirit@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Replace Bash with Fish. Open two terminals.

echo "Check mate".

CCF_100@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y (2 replies)

mate

fish: mate not found 😔

Moshpirit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

TIL it's actually checkmate lol (I'm not a native English speaker).

BTW, loved your response hahaha

CCF_100@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y

Lol

Actually, I ment mate as in romantic partner. "Checkmate" refers to a move in chess.

Edit: I commented this without reading the full context, I guess I completely forgot about this conversation lol 😅

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 2y

Might be thinking of TempleOS there.

Dasnap@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y (4 replies)

Does using Linux, Windows, and MacOS simultaneously make me some kind of faith-exploring pilgrim?

Shareni@programming.dev · 19 pts · 2y (3 replies)

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 2y

Need to replace the cross with Tux.

agent_flounder@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

hides

Shareni@programming.dev · 2 pts · 2y

There is no hiding from the Emperor, for His light reaches all!

esc27@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y (2 replies)

So which OS is which religion? Right now I'm thinking unix=Judaism (older, predecessor to newer oses), linux=Christianity (distros=demominations, roots in unix.), macos=Islam(jobs is their prophet, roots in unix). Not sure about Windows. I guess maybe it could be Christianity and Linux Hindu or Buddhist...

ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com · 10 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Windows can't be Christianity, it's not fragmented enough. It's either Scientology because it's tightly controlled and without meaningful denominations. Or Buddhism from a very western point of view (i.e. oblivious to the denominations and local variations).

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 2y

Scientology because it saps your money.

Crashumbc@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y (1 reply)

A religion is just a cult with more followers.

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2y

Then what does that make Linux?

Oh wait...

lessthanluigi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y (1 reply)

I feel like ideology is more accurate, but alright

Leg@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y

I used the word philosophy, but yes. I think that's a more appropriate word than religion/cult.

Diplomjodler@feddit.de · 9 pts · 2y (10 replies)

It's the filthy Arch heretics that are a cult! All true believers use Mint!

Shareni@programming.dev · 11 pts · 2y (5 replies)

Repent heretic! Return to your roots and embrace Debian!

Diplomjodler@feddit.de · 4 pts · 2y (4 replies)

The New Covenant supersedes the Old Covenant!

jerrythegenius@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
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Shareni@programming.dev · 1 pts · 2y (2 replies)

It's no wonder you wish to forget about the past when your covenant is the offspring of those who consort with demons. Repent, and be granted the Emperor's mercy!

Diplomjodler@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y (1 reply)

If Good didn't want us to consort with demons, why did he make them so damn sexy?

Shareni@programming.dev · 1 pts · 2y

Thy shalt burn in the pits of damnation for calling Microsoft sexy!

Titou@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y (3 replies)

No thanks, Mint is a great distro for beginners only

Diplomjodler@feddit.de · 7 pts · 2y

Oh come on! At least call me an unwashed peasant or something! How are we going to get a holy war going with that attitude?

femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 2y

All seriosuness, mint is honestly a good distro even for power users, i installed it on an ssd and used it on a pc a cobled together from parts i had lying around while my main pc was out of state (i left it behind at school for winter break) and i was surprised to find that it was about as easy to work on as arch or debian from a clean install

Nutteman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y

It sure is. Was the perfect distro for me to dip my toes in the water. It's been 2 months and I'm learning a lot and having way more fun with my computer than I ever have.

Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 2y

And with the countless different distributions, its a polytheistic one.

excitingburp@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y

Absolutely. The only difference is that the benefits aren't imaginary, they are quite tangible.

FriendBesto@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 2y

The Church of Emacs would like to have a word, and for you to open your heart to Emacs.

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ChurchOfEmacs

And for those who already get the joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnnb6sjgk3A

Daerun@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y

So? (says while using terminal with gibberish commands to mere mortals)

BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y (1 reply)

There hasn't been a debian update for 2000 years so...

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 2y

Debian is updated monthly

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y

thats bait.meme

KISSmyOS@feddit.de · 6 pts · 2y

All Praise Bob!

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y (4 replies)

My sacrament is a bootable usb stick

swab148@startrek.website · 2 pts · 2y (3 replies)

Mine currently has five different distros, for any given mood

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 2y (2 replies)

Real talk what do you do? Just partition your drive for different flavours or do you just wipe your pc multiple times?

swab148@startrek.website · 2 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Partitions would be best, but the real reason I have all of them is that I'm building a new rig pretty soon and I haven't quite decided which one I want, so I'm gonna try out a few different flavors! I've got Bazzite, Mint, Endeavor, Pop, and good ol' Debian just in case since it's what I'm using now.

PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 2y

Big fan of Pops tiling system

recapitated@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

On this community, absolutely. In business, no it's just one of the things you use.

Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 2y

No.

zxqwas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

Troll grade: C-.

bouh@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y

You probably don't have enough knowledge to understand the difference I guess...

rtxn@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)
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loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y (2 replies)
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sxan@midwest.social · 4 pts · 2y (1 reply)

Wrong. Linux is a kernel, and GNU is one of the user spaces.

loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
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some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 2y

Religion. Cults have centralized leadership causing harm. Linux users harm ourselves / themselves.

genuineparts@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y

One of us, One of us.

sagrotan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y

Learning is a religion? You son of a bitch, I'm in!

piefedderatedd@piefed.social · 1 pts · 2y

Upvoted for the good laugh. But needless to say this world needs more Linux users! :)

ikidd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 2y

Yeah basically