I mean, hollandaise sauce is delicious, but to put that on poutine? Heresy!
I'm extremely disappointed that a Canadian restaurant would serve that anti Canadian garbage. A poutine is a sacred thing and should never be altered, that's ground's for the death penalty if you ask me.
I prefer cayenne pepper on mac and cheese. The flavor profiles work well together, I don't like adding anything vinegary to M&C, and lord knows it could use some spice.
I've never known a Non-Canadian to put any on mac and cheese, which is of course the correct amount. You can make home made mac cheaper and more flavourfully than name brand KD.
Nothing wrong with either honestly, just that ketchup goes on fries and perhaps some other fried and/or grilled foods, but generally it has a very distinct and overwhelming flavor that drowns out whatever it is you are eating. Also why some chefs and grill dads will be offended when you ask for it, implying their food tastes so bad or bland it needs it.
Alright, lot of people saying zero here, and I agree, but there is a fancy mac and cheese place that serves barbeque pork mac and cheese that is incredible. Barbeque sauce goes very well with mac and cheese even without the pork.
I've mixed quite a few things into mac & cheese. Ketchup has never been one of them.
Speaking of condiments, mixing about 1 tbsp of mustard (dijon works best, but regular yellow is fine too) into the cheese sauce helps bring out the cheese flavor, but doesn't make it taste like mustard.
It does! I've used it a couple times as well, you just need to be really careful not to add too much. I couldn't tell you how much to use since I just eyeballed the amount I put in.
Despite my love and appreciation for the Barenaked Ladies, one should just drink fancy Dijon ketchups and not bother with the Kraft Mac and Cheese to begin with.
Bro part of growing up is learning through trial and error. Try one amount. If you can't trust yourself to remember the result, write it down. Then repeat with a different amount.
You can ask around for recipes but if your question is how much sauce per pasta (I'm fudging the definition of sauce here), there isn't one standard.
I personally add just salt and pepper to mac n cheese and call it good, but I'm in my thirties. I experimented mostly with eggs in my teens.
I'm not a fan myself but I think the right amount of ketchup on Mac and cheese is generally how much you like.
But there is such a thing as too much. Ketchup is great because the sugar and salt makes it appealing. Start pouring it on and all of a sudden you're guzzling down a lot of sugar and taking a dish high in sodium and exacerbating it. Not so bad every now and then but a constant high-sodium, high-sugar diet is rough for kidneys, blood glucose levels, etc.
There are also "no salt added" and "no sugar added" versions of ketchup but even still, a reasonable amount is just not pouring a ton on. For anyone eating the dish like twice a year, I'd say go nuts! But for those eating it regularly, make sure to enjoy yourself but also take care of yourself! I say this as someone that has a kidney issue in remission and was asked way back at my first appointment "how much sodium do you consume in a day?"
I'm headed to the UK next month, and I should remember to get some. I've heard about it for ages but it's not available here. Bovril and marmite too! Any other oddities that I might actually enjoy (and can fly with)?
94 Comments
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 139 pts · 2y
The right amount of ketchup on Mac and cheese is zero
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 2y
This comment is a declaration of war against Canada
satanmat@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 2y
The Leafs suck and Qubec waters down their maple syrup
—That’s a declaration of war against Canada
AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 2y
The leafs suck? Welcome honorary Canadian! Come join us on Tuesday to hopefully see the leafs choke yet again against Boston!
BTW, to trigger a good chunk of Canadian's, just say you made a poutine but used kraft singles (aka American cheese) instead of cheese curds.
I hate myself for even typing that last part.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Oh and hollandaise sauce in place of brown gravy... there's a real restaurant in Montreal that does that. Granted not the American cheese part.
AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 2y
I mean, hollandaise sauce is delicious, but to put that on poutine? Heresy!
I'm extremely disappointed that a Canadian restaurant would serve that anti Canadian garbage. A poutine is a sacred thing and should never be altered, that's ground's for the death penalty if you ask me.
FryHyde@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 2y
tbf the maple syrup IS watered down, but it's super weird because it's literally the Mafia doing it.
satanmat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah. One one hand I guess i get it. But that the maple syrup mafia exists blows my mind.
Ce soir, we’re gonna boil you down….
Sanguine@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
Correct
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
The right amount of Kraft Mac and Cheese is also zero.
Speculater@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 2y
That seems like not enough though.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 2y
Zero is arguably too much.
HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 2y
PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
If I had to choose between always eating ketchup on mac and cheese or ketchup just not existing, I'd delete ketchup from existence.
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
If your Mac n cheese/eggs need ketchup, you need to learn how to make Mac n cheese/eggs.
PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 2y
I mean I wouldn't ruin the shittiest mac n cheese with ketchup. Fake cheese slice and some paprika and you're edible.
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 2y
Any amount of ketchup on mac and cheese is too much.
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Any amount of ketchup on anything is too much.
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
This is the answer right here.
AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2y
Add hamburger into the KD and then ketchup becomes acceptable, even encouraged IMO.
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
And now we have to talk about how any amount of hamburger in mac and cheese is too much.
PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 2y
Easy mac and a few oz of seasoned ground beef is just sad hamburger helper. It's good, tho.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
Hey now.
AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2y
You're just straight up wrong. Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 2y
Any ketchup on Mac and Cheese is too much if you are older than twelve.
Use Sriracha like an adult.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Oh yeah, I agree about spice. I mix habanero hot sauce with the ketchup. But the ketchup flavor is my favorite part... I'm a little over twelve.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Do you like fish sticks?
wjrii@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
I prefer cayenne pepper on mac and cheese. The flavor profiles work well together, I don't like adding anything vinegary to M&C, and lord knows it could use some spice.
pingveno@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
I wonder about Secret Aardvark Sauce.
Nemo@midwest.social · 4 pts · 2y
green habanero Yucateco legit slaps on a baked mac'n'cheese
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
I haven’t met a Yucateco that doesn’t slap, but the Black Label Reserve Chile Habanero is next level.
Nemo@midwest.social · 4 pts · 2y
It's SO good! Especially on anything with vegetables in.
sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 2y
This is a joke, right? Nobody actually puts ketchup on macaroni and cheese, right? No way. No way.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 2y
I used to put sliced banana on my red rice... I know people who put lemon mayo on their red rice.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
And they both sound good, people need to stop isolating foods.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Hell with that. Give me mixed veggies and I'll sort them into tiny piles. Why would I want a forkful of different things all together?
BleatingZombie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I think it can be fairly common with children
Speculater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I picked it up in Canada and never stopped. I'm surprised it's not more popular.
Sprawlie@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 2y
Zero. The answer to this question is Zero. There is no amount of Ketchup that should be added to Kraft Dinner.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 2y
Is that Celine Dion over there?
If you know, you know. I'm not your guy, friend.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 2y
Why would you make your pasta taste like cheese and then make it stop tasting like cheese?
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 2y
Any amount of ketchup on mac n cheese is too much
xkforce@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 2y
We dont defile macaroni and cheese here so zero.
Nemo@midwest.social · 25 pts · 2y
There is NO pasta dish that should have catsup on it. None.
Speculater@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 2y
It's basically tomato sauce, plus a little sugar.
FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y
Sugar sauce with Tomato and Vinegar *FIFY
Speculater@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
AKA Flavor-Town
LemmyFeed@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 2y
Nope. I don't like this. No thank you.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 2y
None that’s gross
HubertManne@kbin.social · 7 pts · 2y
agreed.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 2y
Any ketchup on mac and cheese is too much ketchup.
blargerer@kbin.social · 16 pts · 2y
I've never known a Non-Canadian to put any on mac and cheese, which is of course the correct amount. You can make home made mac cheaper and more flavourfully than name brand KD.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
The answer is hot sauce
GluWu@lemm.ee · 15 pts · 2y
Northern countries should be banned from importing ketchup, they only use it to commit sins and atrocities. Norway has some explaining to do.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net · 14 pts · 2y
Any amount over 0, IMO.
Also: Make sure to fatten up your tapeworms.
Bonehead@kbin.social · 13 pts · 2y
Ketchup is like garlic...you don't measure it with your eyes, you measure it with your heart.
Num10ck@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
garlic in mac n cheese is good
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 2y
Your canadian friends only use the right amount if they dont use any ketchup at all.
Ketchup on actual dishes is a sin and the culinary concession that your food tastes like shit and needs to be drowned in the allspice of condiments.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
But we can agree that allspice is amazing, right?
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 2y
Nothing wrong with either honestly, just that ketchup goes on fries and perhaps some other fried and/or grilled foods, but generally it has a very distinct and overwhelming flavor that drowns out whatever it is you are eating. Also why some chefs and grill dads will be offended when you ask for it, implying their food tastes so bad or bland it needs it.
FryHyde@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 2y
I put ketchup on fish n chips because malt vinegar is disgusting foot water and my mind can not be changed.
Godnroc@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
Alright, lot of people saying zero here, and I agree, but there is a fancy mac and cheese place that serves barbeque pork mac and cheese that is incredible. Barbeque sauce goes very well with mac and cheese even without the pork.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
True, I would use bbq but not ketchup
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 2y
I have no idea how big the bottles are you're using, but I can tell you.... half a bottle is way too fucking much.
That said, I think ketchup on Mac and cheese is absolutely disgusting, but dumping half a bottle of anything into anything is way too much
Vandals_handle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Any is too much, everyone knows ketchup properly belongs on peanut butter sandwiches.
wirelesswire@kbin.run · 8 pts · 2y
I've mixed quite a few things into mac & cheese. Ketchup has never been one of them.
Speaking of condiments, mixing about 1 tbsp of mustard (dijon works best, but regular yellow is fine too) into the cheese sauce helps bring out the cheese flavor, but doesn't make it taste like mustard.
Drusas@kbin.run · 3 pts · 2y
I'll bet powdered mustard would work well.
wirelesswire@kbin.run · 3 pts · 2y
It does! I've used it a couple times as well, you just need to be really careful not to add too much. I couldn't tell you how much to use since I just eyeballed the amount I put in.
Apeman42@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
It also helps if you want to add some shredded cheese. There's an emulsifier in mustard that helps the cheese melt smoothly into the sauce.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
Now I need to know what else you put ketchup on
Speculater@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Fries, hotdogs, cheese sandwiches, brussel sprouts, burgers, normal things.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
Brussel sprouts?! I wouldn’t consider that normal
bitchkat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
or cheese sandwiches.
Speculater@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 2y
Corn dogs and sausages too, it's just delicious.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
I think they’ll like you over at !foodcrimes
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 2y
As an American of a certain age, as soon as I saw the post title I heard "Ode oten doten day..." in my head.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Well that was fan fucking tastic.
ZeffSyde@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
I top my mac and cheese up with tonic and finish it with a float of St. Germaine.
sbv@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y
Depends. Have you mixed in good stuff? Broccoli? Bacon? Peas? Extra cheese? Mustard?
If yes, then none. Savour the flavour provided by your culinary instigator.
If no, then maybe?
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 2y
Despite my love and appreciation for the Barenaked Ladies, one should just drink fancy Dijon ketchups and not bother with the Kraft Mac and Cheese to begin with.
FryHyde@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 2y
I mean unless you have a million dollars or something.
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 2y
Nobody can tell you the right amount for you. If you like the amount you use, great.
NaClKnight@kbin.run · 4 pts · 2y
None. I use none. Kraft Mac is already bad but if I'm in the mood for something nostalgic there are a dozen other things i would add first
Nasom@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Maybe a tsbp so the can stragicially use it as a dip spot for each bite.
Still@programming.dev · 3 pts · 2y
uhhhh halfa bottle??? hoping u have a tiny ass bottle cuz anything more than like 2 tablespoons is an insane amount of a plate of Mac and cheese
also no ketchup on box Mac, we aren't serial killers
morphballganon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Bro part of growing up is learning through trial and error. Try one amount. If you can't trust yourself to remember the result, write it down. Then repeat with a different amount.
You can ask around for recipes but if your question is how much sauce per pasta (I'm fudging the definition of sauce here), there isn't one standard.
I personally add just salt and pepper to mac n cheese and call it good, but I'm in my thirties. I experimented mostly with eggs in my teens.
LemmySoloHer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
I'm not a fan myself but I think the right amount of ketchup on Mac and cheese is generally how much you like.
But there is such a thing as too much. Ketchup is great because the sugar and salt makes it appealing. Start pouring it on and all of a sudden you're guzzling down a lot of sugar and taking a dish high in sodium and exacerbating it. Not so bad every now and then but a constant high-sodium, high-sugar diet is rough for kidneys, blood glucose levels, etc.
There are also "no salt added" and "no sugar added" versions of ketchup but even still, a reasonable amount is just not pouring a ton on. For anyone eating the dish like twice a year, I'd say go nuts! But for those eating it regularly, make sure to enjoy yourself but also take care of yourself! I say this as someone that has a kidney issue in remission and was asked way back at my first appointment "how much sodium do you consume in a day?"
FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
If by ketchup you actually mean Branston Pickle, then I'd usually start with a decent tablespoon on the edge and top up if required.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
I'm headed to the UK next month, and I should remember to get some. I've heard about it for ages but it's not available here. Bovril and marmite too! Any other oddities that I might actually enjoy (and can fly with)?
FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
I'd say pack your case with Haggis and cold packs but not sure how well that would go down with border control!
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 2y
What is a cold pack? Haggis sounds awesome.
OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 2y
Depends on the amount of mac, surely? Are we talking an aluminum pan for a party, or just a bowl for one person?
Either way if you can get your hands on some Whataburger Spicy Ketchup you should try using that.
Speculater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Hell yeah, that sounds awesome. And I meant about a box worth.
OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 2y
I like to give it a good drizzle but it doesn't use a significant amount of the ketchup. Nowhere near half the bottle.
MxM111@kbin.social · 1 pts · 2y
“A lot” and “too much” are not the same thing. Just saying.