Just like my old physics teacher. Heard stories about him telling the students, that Pd (Palladium) is named after him (his last name had the same abbreviation).
Also jokingly using the screen of a calculator as a scale for weighing metal ball bearings.
But if you read a primary source, that's one persom who had the opportunity to make stuff up. With a secondary source, even if the primary it's based on is legit, there's some other guy who wasn't there and may either be lying to you or misinterpreting the primary source his report is based on. Each new level of isolation adds another opportunity to stack both lies and mistakes onto the data.
It's not that you can't go wrong with primary sources. It's that you can go a lot wronger without them.
Counterargument, secondary sources are often a good filter for bogus primary sources. This is the primary reason Wikipedia does not allow primary source references.
That's very different. Wikipedia doesn't allow people to edit their own pages. They don't have rules against linking to interviews with persons involved in an event, for example.
The main problem with primary sources is that they are often involved in the event itself - or at least greatly affected by it - which makes them the most biased.
While looking up what his middle name was, I learned that the tradition of middle names did not become widespread in the US until the 1830s. Interesting.
There's already an explanation for the Mandela effect, it's that our memories are extremely fallible and more affected by our view/environment as opposed to facts than most people believe.
This is aweful. We really don't need people polluting knowledge in officialy capacity. Effing around with friends or as a yahoo on the internet sure. I really hope this story itself is the bs.
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Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 222 pts · 1y
WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today · 70 pts · 1y
My AP history teacher liked to make up stuff. But like, he'd say he made it up right after telling the made-up thing.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 53 pts · 1y
TIL I’m your AP history teacher (just kidding, but I do enjoy recreationally lying to children)
WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 1y
Was your brother my 6th grade history+english teacher who spent more of class time having recess or playing Risk (the board game) than anything else?
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 1y
Unfortunately, I’m an only child. But I could ask my sisters whether they have any siblings who fit that description.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Or you could just lie and say that yes, that was indeed your brother.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
♫ fun ways to lie ♫
♫ so many fun ways to lie ♫
Skalix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Just like my old physics teacher. Heard stories about him telling the students, that Pd (Palladium) is named after him (his last name had the same abbreviation).
Also jokingly using the screen of a calculator as a scale for weighing metal ball bearings.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 30 pts · 1y
Primary sources make shit up too tho
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 1y
But if you read a primary source, that's one persom who had the opportunity to make stuff up. With a secondary source, even if the primary it's based on is legit, there's some other guy who wasn't there and may either be lying to you or misinterpreting the primary source his report is based on. Each new level of isolation adds another opportunity to stack both lies and mistakes onto the data.
It's not that you can't go wrong with primary sources. It's that you can go a lot wronger without them.
skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Counterargument, secondary sources are often a good filter for bogus primary sources. This is the primary reason Wikipedia does not allow primary source references.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
That's very different. Wikipedia doesn't allow people to edit their own pages. They don't have rules against linking to interviews with persons involved in an event, for example.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
The main problem with primary sources is that they are often involved in the event itself - or at least greatly affected by it - which makes them the most biased.
Frog@lemmy.ca · 102 pts · 1y
Fun fact: The first president to have a middle name was John Quincy Adams, the sixth president of the United States.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee · 91 pts · 1y
RAAAAAAAARGH
rockerface@lemm.ee · 46 pts · 1y
They started counting from zero, as it should be
taladar@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
Why numbering should start at zero by Edsger W. Dijkstra
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
Who was the zeroth president? Or zeroth child? 🤔
Tja@programming.dev · 7 pts · 1y
George
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
You mean George Smith Washington?
Tja@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
No, George the Sird Washington
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 1y
I feel like you're lying, but I don't know enough about middle names to dispute it.
Although, Washington didn't have a mustache. That means SOMEONE was the first president to have a mustache.
And there's never been a president with purple hair. Harris, I'm lookin' at you. Be bold!
MimicJar@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y
Oddly enough that was ALSO John Quincy Adams...
Ok. Not really. He was the first to have sideburns.
Lincoln was the first to have a beard.
Grant was the first to have a mustache.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_with_facial_hair
rockerface@lemm.ee · 17 pts · 1y
Of course Wikipedia has the list of US presidents with facial hair. Because why not
BossDj@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y
What's the presidential tattoo situation?
nul@programming.dev · 14 pts · 1y
That would be Lyndon B. Johnson, who is said to have had a hell of a tramp stamp.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Is that what he was always showing people?
stoicmaverick@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
No. It was his Johnson.
nomous@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
He named it "Jumbo"
Stamau123@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I believe both of the Roosevelts had the same tattoo, of their family crest
affiliate@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
as an expert in middle names (been working with them my whole life) i can confirm it is true
MadBob@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 1y
As someone who works with middle names, maybe you can't tell but this middle name is in a lot of distress.
drolex@sopuli.xyz · 23 pts · 1y
OK what was it then? I've heard him being called John Quincy S. Adams at a local museum. Do you know what the S stands for?
intensely_human@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y
Squincy
Masamune@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
John Quincy Skibidi Adams
coaxil@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
Seymour
ICastFist@programming.dev · 4 pts · 1y
I thought it was SkiiinnEEEEERRR!
HottieAutie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Smith, named after George Smith Washington
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 1y
John S. Quincy Adams
Mango@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Shinigami
pigup@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 1y
President Fake A. Gay
Tamkish@programming.dev · 5 pts · 1y
Randomass Fakenamington
Agent641@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
He's got my vote!
M137@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 1y
"Went back 8 years later after"
Words hard.
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 1y
I also don't never proof-read my shit posting on the internet tbh
Baku@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 1y
samus12345@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y
While looking up what his middle name was, I learned that the tradition of middle names did not become widespread in the US until the 1830s. Interesting.
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee · 12 pts · 1y
What I want to know is what's up with two-name first names like Mary Jo or Betty Lou. Did that happen before or after the invention of middle names?
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
So nice we named her twice
zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
Maybe the museum exhibit was about his nephew?
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Sounds like what George Washington would've been called if he'd been a great dancer.
zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Or a terrible one!
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 12 pts · 1y
I wonder if this is a possible explanation for the mandela effect
WldFyre@lemm.ee · 15 pts · 1y
There's already an explanation for the Mandela effect, it's that our memories are extremely fallible and more affected by our view/environment as opposed to facts than most people believe.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1y
Still, this could have possibly made a mini localised Mandela effect
tetris11@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 1y
People walking in from parallel dimensions to mess with others? Likely.
HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com · 0 pts · 1y
This is aweful. We really don't need people polluting knowledge in officialy capacity. Effing around with friends or as a yahoo on the internet sure. I really hope this story itself is the bs.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 1y
No fun allowed.