What ways/methods have you used to memorize passwords?

Of course I'm not asking you to give away your passwords. But for those of you who have so many, how do you keep track of them all? Do you use any unique methods?

I know many people struggle between having something that's easy to remember and something that's easy to guess. If you keep a note with your passwords on it, for example, it can be stolen, lost, or destroyed, or if you make them according to a pattern that's easy to remember, the wrong people might find them easier to guess.

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scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 97 pts · 1y (10 replies)

In my experience the best way to remember passwords is to.... Get a password manager

Hansie211@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 1y (8 replies)

This is 100% the best advise. But how do you remember your password managers password? I highly recommend Computerphiles tips, I've never seen it explained better: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3NjQ9b3pgIg

(Join 3-4 random, unrelated words for a strong, memorable password)

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 1y (3 replies)

how do you remember your password managers password

another password manager

jdw@links.mayhem.academy · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Until finally there is one to bind them all.

SatyrSack@feddit.org · 7 pts · 1y

And that password is written on a scrap of paper attached to my monitor. Perfect security.

Bezier@suppo.fi · 2 pts · 1y

It's easy enough to remember one long password, when it's prompted often.

emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 1y

https://xkcd.com/936/ Because theres one for every situation.

KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y

I definitely use a password wallet.

And because I'm getting into the demographic where my peers are going through end of life planning (whether for their parents or themselves), I have written my master password down and keep it with the will/"very important papers". Whoever settles your affairs will thank you.

Also, since I've wrangled with this one specifically, when a loved one passes keep their mobile number active so you can navigate mfa and password resets for their accounts.

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
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Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y

If you only have one password for all the things you don't need to be pretty forgetful to forget the word.

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y
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Schlemmy@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 1y

I don't. Bitwarden and that's it.

IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 1y
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hperrin@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y

I only remember one password, the one to my password manager.

WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y

I have hundreds of passwords, there’s no way I could manage that without a password manager.

1Password isn’t terrible, it’s pretty intuitive.

Bitwarden is another popular option.

Using the same (or similar) passwords for multiple things is a really bad idea.

supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

Password manager

Platypus@lemmings.world · 7 pts · 1y

Nice try

MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 1y

Keepassxc remembers for me.

Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)
semperverus@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

KeePassXC/DX.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y

Bitwarden and be done.

ultranaut@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

Bitwarden

Nadru@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I have a friend who resets his passwords whenever he connects. So he only remembers one password, that of his email. He claims it's safer this way.

Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Theres.... There's something to it, I guess. Make sure your email is secure, and if not even you know your password, how can someone else. Christ, it sounds like a massive pain in the ass, though.

Nadru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

Exactly, like I agree with him on principle but it's too time consuming.

traches@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y

For passwords you have to keep in your head, diceware. Surprised it’s not already mentioned! Basically you roll dice to choose words from a long wordlist until you have 6 or 7 words.

Human brains are good at remembering words. It’s way easier to remember a password that looks like:

grandson estimator virtuous scabbed poet parasitic

than it is to remember a random character string.

AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

For cases where I may not have access to a password manager, I have a standard procedure where I'll take the website url, add a fixed salt word, and run it through a hash function.

KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y

Either this is a common algorithm or you might be my friend who also does this.

TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y (2 replies)

They're all the same-ish.

Let's say my password is Token, but spelled like t0k3||

I would attach something related to the site on it, so if the site is lemmy for example, the password would be like

t0k3||Addictedtosurfing

If the site is Amazon something like

t0k3||Thanksformyfavoritejob

I called it "lock and key" style and I'd change the beginning part, the "lock", once a year.

So next year it'll be ef|=027Addictedtosurfing

These are examples lol

sbv@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

Pretty much this. But I used a function of the host name, so it would be easier to remember.

It gets annoying when the site forces you to rotate the password. After that happened a couple of times I started using a password manager.

levzzz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I guess you can sha256 hash them for extra security too

randombullet@programming.dev · 4 pts · 1y (4 replies)

I use passphrases from movies of shows that I like. Then add a special symbol and a number that I like.

Thanks for nothing you useless reptile!61

This has 100.54 bits of entropy. I consider anything above 60 sufficient enough

Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Similar, but I just take the first letter of each word, keep proper pronunciation, and turn some into numbers as appropriate.

Two trailer park girls go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside.

Becomes

2tpggrto,rto,rto.

No, for the record I do not use THAT song.

sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Wouldn't it be better to use the full quote, with some random numbers and symbols interspersed?

Ookami38@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y

Depends. I like this because it's shorter, but still maintains a good level of security, and I'll never forget it. Technically the full password is stronger, yeah. This also has the added benefit of someone being able to see you type it or catch a glimpse of it plaintext for some reason and have NO chance of remembering it.

Either way, they're both pretty secure, I just don't wanna type several lines of... Anything each time I log in.

IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

I worked in IT at a company years ago that standardized on song lyrics in a similar fashion:

4 Those about 2 rock we salute you!

I want 2 rock & roll all night

Etc.

satanmat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

2 ways

1 password manager

  1. I use them very often. I have a bunch of different yes complex passwords that I’m using repeatedly throughout the day so brute force rote memory….

But yeah. Password manager

PetteriPano@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

I used to have a couple of letters from the site/service followed by an obscure dialectal word that's not found in dictionaries with a few characters replaced by numbers and symbols. Those two letters kind of work like salting to keep every hash of my password unique.

Now I just do bitwarden.

667@lemmy.radio · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

hunter3 for everything.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

You use 7 stars for your password?

korthrun@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I use a hardware password manager that connects over USB or bluetooth for most things. The few things that I use often I have a system for, and that system is popular culture.

Love "The Prisoner of Azkaban"? Initialize it, and add the publish date some where: HP&TPoA|1999

Starship troopers fan? Initialize a memorable quote. "The enemy can not push a button... if you disable his hand. Medic!": Tecnpab...iydhh.M! Need numbers? Find a quote with numbers, or add the release year, or the number of times you watched it that one weekend where you and a friend watched it 32 times.

Like TV shows more? How about the fourth episode of family guy: S1-MindOverMuder-E4.

Metal Fan? I do love track three off of Metallica's 1983 album: #3|Motorbreath-1983

Etc.

qantravon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

This is pretty much what I used to do before I got a password manager. Only difference is I would take that short phrase and randomly drop letters or replace them with numbers or symbols, and also random capitalization. Then I'd just practice typing it for 5 minutes until it was muscle memory. After about a week, I could no longer consciously remember the specifics of the password, just the key phrase and the associated muscle memory.

OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Before password managers I used to come up with a phrase or nonsense word that was personally significant to me, or an inside joke. Some sort of “catch phrase” that would only make sense to me and maybe my closest friends. Sometimes just an initialism of something I’d know, like my ex-gf Angie (not her real name) had a gap in her teeth, so I’d tell my friends “Angie’s got a gap in her teeth so my dick’s gots to fit!” and so my password would be “Agagihtsmdg2f!”

TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

I have four passwords I memorize: my password manager, my main email, my work login, and a throw away password for stuff that doesn't matter too much (signing up for giveaways, throw away social media accounts, etc). For everything else I have the password manager create some twenty character monstrosity.

The four memorized ones are all nine letter words with numbers and symbols replacing letters usually always including a comma somewhere as I heard once that a comma makes a password hardet to crack (but, now thinking about it, I don't know where I heard that and it sounds like a myth).

shneancy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

i have difficult & long unique passwords for each of the important things (emails, bank, any official gov or edu sites etc.) that i keep on a piece of paper in my notebook (with a few backup copies). And i also have 3 degrees of difficulty for my other passwords that i use like this: easy "i could not care less if this account got hacked, in fact i know this password has been leaked in plain text before so whatever", medium "i'd kinda suck if this got hacked but ultimately it'd not cause major issues", hard "i do not want this to be hacked"

Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

My passwords are unfortunately very... "patterned". Makes remembering them easier though.

mjhelto@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y

For the work passwords I have to remember and cannot always access a password manager, I use pass phrases instead. Statistically, 3 random, non-similar words, are more secure than normal passwords. Changing random letters to symbols and capitalizing can further improve the security. For instance...

  • Stove glob3 hamst#r
  • pants Stuffin& quote
  • z1ptie float beet$l
otp@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y

I actually try to remember as few of my passwords as possible. Take away my password manager and switch my keyboard from QWERTY to DVORAK (and scramble the number pad), and I'm not getting into anything other than my email and 1 bank account.

ByteMe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I try to use passwords that look like sentences. For example you could "SpotifyIsAwesome!2024". Easy to remember, hard to crack

AWittyUsername@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
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Fantabread@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

Impossible to crack since no reasonable person would think that in 2024!

JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y

I only try to remember two passwords. My email password and my password manager password. The rest and random gobbledy gook.

Metahodos@ani.social · 2 pts · 1y

Fighting game combos, written in numpad notation. Like, for example,

8j2C,4C(2)2C6C236[A],2C5A(w)5C236[A],2C5B63214A,227C

Then you log into you password manager and use that instead.

Evotech@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

I remember them two characters at a time.

Theres a couple of passwords I remember, like for logging on my PC and into my password manager

Akasazh@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 1y

I use postal codes, street names and house numbers of addresses where I previously lived. They contain numbers and capital letters, are random for anyone else, but in doubt I can always look them up.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y

I pick one gnarly one, I memorize it, and leave it to a password manager.

shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

Let's just say the book known as A Pickle for the Knowing Ones is surprisingly useful as a book cipher book if the book cipher is designated to construct passwords.

Kolanaki@yiffit.net · 1 pts · 1y

Until password managers became a thing, I just used 1 password for everything and it was just a serial number for a specific model of floppy disk.

calabast@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y

In the couple places where I don't use a password manager, I make up a silly sentence and use the first letter of each word and then mix in numbers and symbols. I guess that means the letters I use end up not being evenly distributed, but I think it'll be alright.

LouNeko@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I use a password manager, and for that I take an uncommon saying, transcribe the first letter of each word in a leet-like code with a couple of modifications. This gives you a very long and secure password.

NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 1y
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Usernameblankface@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I'll do as long a sentence as I can easily remember. Something silly, a memorable movie quote, an explanation of what the profile/app is for, a reminder for why I use the profile/app, goal I have in the area of life I need to use the app for.

Since most password fields require special characters, I'll slap an exclamation point or question mark at the end to complete the sentence. Sometimes I'll think to use a sentence that already has a number and type the digit instead of spelling it out. Or I'll just use a 2 for too or to.

Not-real example based on a not-real goal

idriveaHummer2workinthefuture!

AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

I only need a couple “real” passwords. They are long, complex, and backed by 2fa

Historically I re-used things from personal history. I know I shouldn’t but they’re easier to remember since I already memorized them. Usually they’re not public data, more like

  • my first PIN of my first ever bank card is now additional authentication for my app with my current bank
  • one password is the name and IP (with substitutions) of one of my favorite servers from a job 15 years ago when I ran my own lab
  • I gotta admit, I still have some trivial passwords for things that seem trivial

But my passwords are mostly generated (and the password to that is complex and unique, plus requires additional Auth). Anything from the last couple years also has a unique generated email

My company is pretty serious about such things: I have generated passwords, two separate 2fa apps and a yubikey. Plus they have some annoying shit on the laptop that is sometimes annoying

evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y

Password manager. For things that I forsee I will end up needing to type often, I might choose a passphrase made of actual words. Some password managers can do this, or create passwords made of syllables you can pronounce. It's way easier to type correctly.

When I'm without a manager, I just look around for random objects, especially things with numbers and special characters.