Ok, Lemmy, let's play a game!
Post how many languages in which you can count to ten, including your native language. If you like, provide which languages. I'm going to make a guess; after you've replied, come back and open the spoiler. If I'm right: upvote; if I'm wrong: downvote!
::: spoiler My guess, and my answer... My guess is that it's more than the number of languages you speak, read, and/or write.
Do you feel cheated because I didn't pick a number? Vote how you want to, or don't vote! I'm just interested in the count.
I can count to ten in five languages, but I only speak two. I can read a third, and I once was able to converse in a fourth, but have long since lost that skill. I know only some pick-up/borrow words from the 5th, including counting to 10.
- My native language is English
- I lived in Germany for a couple of years; because I never took classes, I can't write in German, but I spoke fluently by the time I left.
- I studied French in college for three years; I can read French, but I've yet to meet a French person who can understand what I'm trying to say, and I have a hard time comprehending it.
- I taught myself Esperanto a couple of decades ago, and used to hang out in Esperanto chat rooms. I haven't kept up.
- I can count to ten in Japanese because I took Aikido classes for a decade or so, and my instructor counted out loud in Japanese, and the various movements are numbered.
I can almost count to ten in Spanish, because I grew up in mid-California and there was a lot of Spanish thrown around. But French interferes, and I start in Spanish and find myself switching to French in the middle, so I'm not sure I could really do it. :::
Bonus question: do you ever do your counting in a non-native language, just to make it more interesting?
201 Comments
lukstru@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 1y
1. Python
2. R
3. C/C++
4. Java
5. Lua
6. Bash (Shell Script)
7. Batch (Windows Command Script)
8. Go
9. Rust
10. Zig
11. Scala
12. Fortran
13. Haskell
14. Julia
Corngood@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 1y
If you didn't cheat that's actually pretty impressive.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
It is astonishingly easy to get basically any LLM to output a simple iteration from one to ten function in all of those languages, and more.
Here's Assembly:
Here's FORTRAN
Here's COBOL
naonintendois@programming.dev · 3 pts · 1y
The assembly doesn't print 1-10, it prints 1-9 then
:.Zangoose@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Why does that assembly code use a global variable for a loop value?? It's also ignoring register conventions (some registers need to be preserved before being modified by a function) which would probably break any codebase you use this in
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
Because it was generated by an LLM that assumes this one to ten iteration function is the entirety of all of what the code needs to do.
lukstru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yes I cheated. To be fair, I used each of those languages at one point and knew how to do it but was to lazy to look it up again.
Edit: except Fortran
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Nice. Surely you could manage Lisp (or Scheme)?
God. Haskell's monads give me nightmares.
benni@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
class CountToTenis the perfect example of why I dislike Java.sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
I might be missing something, but don't most of these count from 0 to 10, not 1 to 10 as was requested?
lukstru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Yes, that was on purpose
Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works · 53 pts · 1y
English:
Spanish:
French:
German:
Italian:
Greek:
Mongolian:
Dicska@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
The accent on the German is rather thick, though.
Litebit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
You know Malay too.
You show a good mastery of the hindu-arabic numerals.
Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
I'm sorry, I just don't recognize those, but I'd love to learn them!
nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Mongolian is similar to Sanskrit, and other Indo-Aryan languages: ० १ २ ३ ४ ५ ६ ७ ८ ९ १०
umbrella@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 1y
benignintervention@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1y
Uno, dos, très, quatro, cinco cinco, ses
vodkasolution@feddit.it · 9 pts · 1y
You know it's kinda hard
KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
You're pretty fly
Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
For a white guy
vodkasolution@feddit.it · 4 pts · 1y
3 to 10 but 6 to 5
sxan@midwest.social · 7 pts · 1y
25 or 6 to 4
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
... siete, ocho, nueve, des!
Hah! I just needed to get started!
Spelling is probably horrible wrong, but Ima take it. 7! 7 languages, ah, ah, aahhh!
LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Dutch, English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Latin, Kmer.
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Wow. Impressive list!
LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah, no issue with counting to 10. The rest however... Im really bad in learning languages, I've had German and French in school for 13 years yet I can't speak either. I know English besides Dutch because of the internet and subtitles on TV. I wanted to learn languages like Norwegian, Latin and Russian but I gave up because I just don't remember words that well. Same with history, I remember stories but can't remember dates. I'm better at logic, like math and chemistry. But at least I know how to order up to 10 beers in multiple languages.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Critical life skills !
Most languages go all wonky after 10. German is pretty regular after 12 (12 is such an important number in human history!), French is absolutely insane. Conlangs like Esperanto are the really only highly regular ones.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
German and Dutch (my native language) are similar systems. Still weird imo, naming the numbers in the wrong sequence: 32 is "two and thirty" instead of "thirty two".
Check out the system of Denmark. French looks rather normal after seeing the Danish.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
I love this map!
davidgro@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
2: English and Japanese. (Took Karate classes as a kid)
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Hah! Aikido was how I learned counting in Japanese!
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 1y
English, French, German is three.
Oh, also Scottish, American English, Australian English, New Zealand English, South African English, er... Canadian English, Irish English, Singaporean English, oh, and lots of other Xian English where X is one of the various African countries or islands of the Caribbean that use English as their official language.
Call it another 27 or so.
And they say maths is a language, so 31 total. What do I win?
BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Excellent. Big brain time over here, y'all!
Stovetop@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Opinionhaver@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 1y
I had mandatory Swedish at school for over 6 years and I can't even count to ten in that language. Time well spent.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Immersion is so important. Three years of French in college, and I could never make myself understood when I visited.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I can count to ten in just four languages, sadly.
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Four is pretty good!
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Japanese, English, ASL, and Spanish. Those are my four.
I’m trying to get my Japanese back to as good as it was before I came to America-proper; I spent my childhood on an Air Force base and went to a school in rural Japan. Then I learned English, and with it, my Japanese started rotting. Started really trying hard to get decent at it again for the last decade. It comes, but slowly.
I can count to ten in Spanish cause that’s the second-place language out here, and ASL cause doing 20 counts on one hand is stupid useful and I love it.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
It's so hard without immersion!
Marty_TF@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 1y
german english latin italian spanish japanese
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
That's got to be some common set for us Western European descendants.
toofpic@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Russian as native
English as expected
Danish as I'm integrating
Korean as I was doing Taekwondo (can't say much more actually)
i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1y
Three: English, Welsh, German.
I used to be able to do French, Italian and Japanese, but I've managed to forget everything above about five.
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
That's my problem. I live in the US, and there's essentially no opportunity to verbally practice anything. The only options, really, would be Hindi or Spanish, and where I live there's a significant Somali immigrant community, but if you don't use it, you lose it!
My girlfriend in HS had a German mother and a Japanese father. Her mother left Germany when she was 16. After I came back from my extended stay in Germany, speaking fluid German, I visited her parents, and tried to have a conversation with her mother in German. After a few minutes, she said - a little sadly - that she just didn't remember German anymore because it had been so long since she'd spoken it.
Burninator05@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
To 10? English and Spanish.
If we can drop the requirement to 5 I can add Turkish.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
3.8
I can’t remember the German words for 8 and 9
Stovetop@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
megane_kun@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
I can count to ten in seven languages. Not as many as some of the others here, I suppose?
Yes, I sometimes count in one of my target languages.
::: spoiler Languages in which I can count one to ten, along with the numbers (in words)
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 1y
Norwegian
English
Swedish
Danish
German
Spanish
Korean
Japanese
Chinese
Arabic
ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
I speak three languages and I can count in ten.
Not a hard guess, to be honest, lots of people pick up numbers from popular culture (Spanish songs are big on counting, but weirdly, German ones as well). And if you study an Eastern martial art, chances are you'll learn to count to ten in the corresponding language from your instructor.
Or I don't know, maybe my brain is weird and I'm collecting numbers, that's a non-zero possibility.
ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Huh, I was spot on with martial arts 😂
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Well, I eliminated 30% of the competition: almost nobody is going to count in fewer languages than they speak. That leaves only the people people who've picked up counting but little else, and people who can count only in the languages they speak.
It wasn't a hard guess. I thought it would be a more fun way of running the question, plus I might get some metrics out of it. If people follow the rules, we can tell what the ratio of group A to group B is by looking at down and up votes.
Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 1y
EDIT:Bugger, it's 5. I can't remember 6 and 10 in German 🙈
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
"Fünf" I can understand, but you forgot sex?? :-)
Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Funnily enough, I always remember it wrong 🙈
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Actually, it's the words that the the same as native words which are the hardest to remember, IME, because you're always questioning it, or you go reaching for a "foreign" word, but if it's also a native word...
Funny little story. When I first came back from living in Germany, I'd occasionally forget the English word for things and could only remember the German ones. I don't know if that happens to many people, but that last year, I don't think I spoke English with anyone more than a couple of times.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 1y
Just 3; English, Spanish and Japanese.
1-10 was actually like the first or second lesson I had in Japanese, along with phrases related to telling time or paying for things.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 1y
Not fluent in either of the two non-native languages. My peak was probably 5, but two of which were only for a couple years max and very similar.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
English, French, Spanish, Japanese.
French is lapsed, Spanish broken, and Japanese I know only that required for karate class.
My French was conversational, my Spanish was touristy (what time does the bank open? Where's the bathroom? Etc), and my Japanese was never getting better. But I miss the fluidity of thought and I'm sad to have lost ground on my language goals since COVID.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
I find it hilarious that so many of us know how to count to 10 in a language just because of martial arts.
DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
German, English, French and Upper Sorabian
Bonus: nope, but I sometimes try counting in Binary with my fingers.
But damn there are some smart people here!
arudesalad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
English, German and French. I don't speak German or French but I am still learning German (my school forced me to learn French from when I was 7 to when I was 14, but it was taught to poorly to me until I was 13 that I dropped it as soon as I could and the only things I remember are the numbers)
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
English Spanish and Japanese
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
English (school/friends): one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten
German (school): eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf, sechs (hehe sex), sieben, acht, neun, zehn
Marathi (native): Ek, don, teen, char, pach, saha, saat, aath, naoo, daha
Hindi (friends/school): Ek, do, teen, char, panch, cchah, saat, aath, naww, thus
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
I have not heard of Marathi, but from the context, you're Indian? Hindi is the official national language, but most Indians grow up learning a local regional language at home, IIRC.
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Yepp
Oh noooo nonono. This is a large misconception (kinda one that was spread intentionally).
So here's the deal. India is very similar to Europe, in that there are hundreds of little cultures that have had very different histories, very different cultures, very different religious practices, etc. At no point in history was India (the current borders) under one state, just like Europe wasn't under one state.
India has 22 official languages, out of which Hindi is the most spoken one (largely in northern India in the basin of the Ganga).
Hindu nationalists have this idea that India needs to be a nation state to protect itself from foreign threats. "A very important step towards that is by having one language that is spoken by all. English can't be that language cuz it belongs to the colonizers. Hindi however, is Indian. Hence, all Indians must speak it."
The problem however, is that those that don't speak Hindi don't want Hindi imposed on them. According to them, English is a perfectly fine bridge language. South Indians generally hold this position. Their languages are very very different from Hindi. Even their scripts are different (like how English and Japanese have different scripts).
Lemme explain this by giving an example of Europe. Imagine Britain colonizes all of mainland Europe. Europe has never been united before. However, to defeat the British, Europe unites for the first time. They drive the British out, and establish their own state.
Now, a group of Catholic Christian nationalists believe that Europe must become more united to fight against such threats. They want all Europeans to speak one language. This language turns out to be German. State institutions across Europe start making their employees only talk in German. Understandably, the French are pissed with this.
That's kinda what's happening in India right now. Many (especially south Indians) are pretty mad about this and are resisting.
It's the language spoken in the state of Maharashtra (whose capital is Mumbai).
83 million people speak it natively, while 16 million speak it as a second language. It shares the same script with Hindi. So if you know Marathi, it's kinda easy to learn Hindi and vice versa. There are many common words and stuff. I think a huge majority of Marathi folk can speak an ok amount of Hindi today (largely because of internal immigration from North India to cities in Maharashtra and the aforementioned "Hindi imposition").
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Thanks for the detailed explanation! I've worked with a ton of Indians (software development, East coast US), and I picked that up from one of them. It hadn't occurred to me to verify it, mainly because it wasn't critical knowledge for me; just trivia.
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Aww no worries <3
Ah. Nah, it's a case of "repeat a lie again and again till it becomes the truth". I vaguely remember us being taught about this national language thing in school too! Kinda like the Mandela effect (but very likely spread intentionally).
Nemo@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 1y
Replying opened the spoiler for me, but:
I can also count to five in German, and I used to know 1-10 in Swahili, but now only remember that "moja means one"
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Saluton, samideana amiko!
Nemo@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 1y
Unfortunately, I really only taught myself how to count, the days of the week, and the months of the year.
Litebit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
6 languages to 10 for me.
Counting to 20 or 100 would be a better measure of knowing the numbers of that language, since some languages become weird at 10 or 70 onwards, for example, french.
Some like Mandarin or malay, we just need to mainly just learn to 10, and it is very consistent and logical after that.
Kazaxat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
For this question exactly I can claim 6, but beyond counting to 10 I know very little in most of these.
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y
LMFAO I would've never expected someone to reference that song on Lemmy of all places!!! Such a goofy song lol
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
13? Another commenter said they'd learned counting to 7 in Chinese (Cantonese?) because of a song that cuts off at 7. And both 7 and 13 are significant in US culture, 7 being lucky and 13 unlucky... I wonder if there's a relationship based on immigration and the cultural blending?
13 is an odd number, though. 12 is widely significant, as are 5 and 10, but 7 and 13 are strange picks.
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Nah the 13 in the song has nothing to do with the unlucky part. It's just that the song is a goofy ass song lol. The lyrics literally start with "ding dong ding ding dong ding dong". It's basically a woman asking her lover or whatever to come home (not in the ding dong part of course).
She's like, "I waited 1, 2, 3 - 13 days" for you and you didn't come. On the 14th day, I did this, on the 15th I did this, on the 17th I realized we broke up, my heart shattered on the 20th and so on. Many find the song nostalgic (not me, cuz I'm not from that generation). For me it's just another old random annoying-ish Bollywood song.
Also, just to add to my previous comment a little with a live example here:
Kazaxat's (the person whose comment you replied to) parents are Malayali. They're from the south Indian state of Kerala. See how Kazaxat doesn't speak Hindi? Kerala is one of the states resisting Hindi imposition. Also remember how I said that the land of modern India was never under one state? Kerala was one of the lands never under the rule of any state in the Ganga basin.
Also, the actress dancing in the song above is Madhuri Dixit, who is Marathi.
Here's a link to the song if you've suddenly become curious lol. Disclaimer: it's just another silly old Bollywood song. So if u'r not into that, u ain't missing anything.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Ah, yeah. I didn't pick up that they didn't speak Hindi.
grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y
4:
Hopefully next week I'll add Polish--I'm on day 3 of learning it in an app.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 1y
Eins, Zwei, Drei, Vier, Fünf, Sechs, Sieben, Acht, Neun, Zehn (German, Native)
One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten (English, know this pretty well)
Un, Deux, Trois, Quatre, Cinq, Six, Sept, Huit, Neuf, Dix (French, least sure about this one)
いち、に、さん、よん、ご、ろく、なな、はち、きゅう、じゅう (日本語, I love it but it's still hard)
一、二、三、四、後、六、七、八、九、十 (also 日本語 but with kanji)
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
From my experience, in lower grades Germans generally get offered French or English as a second language, so most Germans I've ever met spoke one of those passably. I'm not surprised that you'd pick up both.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1y
I had some French in Grundschule, and some more as secondary language years later. English was the primary secondary (?) language. Besides... English is kind of the international language nowadays.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Luckily for me, but sad choice.
Lazhward@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
In Japanese it's customary to use shi and shichi for 4 and 7 when counting, because they can't be confused when appearing in order. So you can sound a bit more like a native counting that way :)
PlexSheep@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 1y
I know that four and seven have those alternative pronunciations l, but I'm never quite sure when to use which. Also, isn't calling 4 somewhat frowned upon because four is also 死 (death)?
Fondots@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
English, French, Spanish, Esperanto
As a bonus: binary, hexadecimal, octal (really most bases but I can only go past that up to hexatrigesimal without looking up the symbols) Roman numerals, tally marks
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Yeah! I didn't think about Roman numerals. Those have to count, although I don't know the Italian words for the numbers.
HatchetHaro@pawb.social · 3 pts · 1y
English, Cantonese, Mandarin, German, Japanese
I'm native at the first two, fluent in Mandarin, currently learning German, and Japanese I learned by watching Puyo Puyo gameplay.
Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 1y
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
Une, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six, sept, huit, neuf, dix
Uno, dos, tres, quatro, cinqo, seiz, siete, ocho, neuve, diez
Yï, èr, sän, sì, wû, liù, qï, bä, jîu, shí
Yain, tain, eddero, peddero, pots, later, tater, ovvero, covvero, dits
So... 5. Far fewer than I can toast in.
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Drinking is clearly more important.
Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 1y
Cheers
ProBt
E-svekada
Slauncher
Saclicniz
Campei
Campai
Gänbëi
Forgot my Romance family options... =(
zlatiah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Four. English, Chinese, Japanese, German.
Among these German is the only one where I'm not confident in my language capacities... So I almost beat OP in the bet :P I just happened to have learned German up until ~A2 for career reasons but dropped it since my plans changed. Other three I'm all very fluent in. I am also learning French but ironically I only know 1/2/3 because I'm a complete newbie...
I spent the last 10 years in the US so my internal monolog is a bit messed up... I primarily count in English which is not my native language. If it is a long number I'll use Chinese since it is more efficient (one syllable each for 0-10)
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
I love the story this implies!
zlatiah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Oh boy I do have some hilarious career-related stories! But yeah, I very seriously considered taking a job in Germany at one point (didn't end up happening). Maybe I'll chat a bit more about it somewhere else
residentoflaniakea@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 1y
I like learning languages so with that in mind: German, Dutch, French, Swedish, Estonian, Russian, Afrikaans, Japanese, Mandarin, Korean, Irish and Latin. I don't speak all of them thought.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 1y
Lol do we count swedish, norweigan and danish as different languages? Btw other languages are my two native ones: hungarian and english, and then i know spanish because i had it in highschool and i lived 4 months there(cant really speak it anymore sadly) and then croatian because i had one if my friends teach it to me. I used to know some japanese but i also forgot that so without that the total is 5 i guess.
Bonus answer: as for everyday counting i do it either in hungarian or english so no i dont count in my non-native languages. My brain gets fried if i try to do maths for example in swedish. If i do english maths its no problem but i still prefer hungarian when i do large calculations without any paper.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Yes, the Germanic languages all count separately. Canadian French doesn't count differently from France French because they call it "French" and it's essentially completely understandable. I've known Bavarians who insist Hamburgers are unintelligible, although it's all German.
I can almost understand Danish. Almost. Words, here and there. But not Swedish at all.
For the purposes of this count, if it's called a different name, it's a different language, regardless of how closely related. If it's called the same language, but they've drifted dialectically so much natives can barely understand each other, it's still the same language.
ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org · 3 pts · 1y
I can count to ten in more language than I am able to speak (I just love learning stuff):
Can count above ten:
German (native), English, Norwegian, Romanian, Russian, Japanese
Can count only up to ten:
French, Polish, Mandarin
I am learning Romanian at the moment, those are 0-10: zero,
unu/ una,
doi/ două,
trei,
patru,
cinci,
șase,
șapte,
opt,
nouă,
zece
SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 1y
Well if you can count to ten in mandarin, you can count to 100.
It's literally 5 10 2, 5 10 3 for 52, 53 etc.
Add one more word for hundreds, one more for thousands.
After that it gets tough cause numbers beyond thousands are split by packs of 10 thousands, not hundred thousands like most western world (I guess).
Similar to the lakh in Indian
ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
Oh, just like in Japanese, did not know that, they have the ten thousands quirk too. Would love to learn more Chinese and other languages, but I lack free time.
SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
It's coming from the abacus, meaning most likely all of Asian languages have this.
I wonder about Arabic ones ?
Litebit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Mandarin and Malay counting is very easy and consistent. You mainly just need to know until 10 or until 20 for malay. Malay uses English script, so you can read the numbers, too.
jnod4@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Quick question, why one would bother to learn romanian specifically? Family? Partners?
ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
I get this question quite often, but to be frank, I just like the sound of it.
sevon@lemmy.kde.social · 3 pts · 1y
Cool idea. Got a few where I might know just enough to pass this.
::: spoiler attempts collapsed One two three four five six seven eight nine ten
Ett två tre fyra fem sex sju åtta nio tio
Ein zwei drei vier fünf sechs sieben acht neun zehn
Yksi kaksi kolme neljä viisi kuusi seitsemän kahdeksan yhdeksän kymmenen
Üks kaks kolm neli viis kuus seitse kaheksa üheksa kümme :::
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1y
I never remember German 9 and 10 because the song only goes up to 8.
sevon@lemmy.kde.social · 2 pts · 1y
The link to clarify which song is a bit redundant lol
Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
Ha yeah, figured someone might disagree about which song to call THE song or just haven't heard this one.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
For 9, just remember 99 Luftballons. It's literally "nine und ninety".
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Hmnm. Is 2 Swedish? Danish?
What languages are numbers four and five?
sevon@lemmy.kde.social · 2 pts · 1y
2 is Swedish. I'm not sure how much Danish and Norwegian differ. 4 and 5 are Finnish and Estonian.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
The rule has become: different name, different language. Quebequois and France French are both French because they both call the language French.
fubo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Eight: English, German, French, Spanish, Latin, Russian, Japanese, ASL.
Russian occasionally. ASL when I'm counting how many seconds the cat has to stay quiet before I give her a treat.
zanyllama52@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 1y
Three. Spanish, Korean, and English.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com · 3 pts · 1y
English, Maori, Japanese, Korean, Spanish
Freshparsnip@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
English, French, Spanish, Inuktituk
I grew up in Labrador, where they teach Inuktituk in school. I also know a little French because I'm Canadian and a little Spainish because of American educational television.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
English, French, maybe German, binary and hexadecimal
Although hexadecimal might be considered cheating
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Points for creativity!
tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y
5: English, German, French, Spanish, and Japanese.
ProfessorScience@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
4: English, Spanish, French, and Japanese Bonus: Yes
criitz@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 1y
English Spanish German French
Yes
ProteanG6777@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 1y
5 languages so far (German, french, english, 2 african languages). It would probably be 9 when mandarin, cantonese, spanish and arabic gets up to par in a few years.
Jumi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
English, German, Austrian and Eastern Swiss
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Eastern Swiss is German, you sly dog. So
it'sis Austrian. I think they even call it "German" don't they? That's like distinguishing "American" and "British".Edit: fucking autocorrect.
Jumi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
You might have got me there
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y
How similar are Austrian and eastern Swiss?
Jumi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
It's both German
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Currently it's only English and Japanese. At one point I looked up how to count to ten in French, but I clearly don't remember it. I can also count to seven in Chinese (pitch probably incorrect) because of a song that starts off counting and stops at seven for whatever reason.
Though if we're counting writing, I'd be obligated to add Chinese because, at the very least, 1-10 in Japanese and Chinese are the same for just the numbers alone.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Now, that's interesting. 7 is a special number in at least a couple of cultures, the US, too although I gave no idea Why, unless it's related to dice - 7 being at the top of the statistical bell curve.
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
English, Italian, Japanese, Mandarin
SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 1y
5
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 2 pts · 1y
chinese (epiphany) german (language class) english (epiphany) french (hamilton) japanese (karate) spanish (language class) in no particular order (provenance)
beerclue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Well, I'm a native Romanian, so I can count (and speak, to various degrees) in Romanian, Italian, Spanish and French. Also, I live in Germany, so add that to the list. Do we count English? If so, I guess 6?
Cowabunghole@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
8
English (native) Spanish French German Hebrew Mandarin Japanese Finnish
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
That's quite a spread!
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online · 2 pts · 1y
Turkish, English, German, Greek, Kurmanji, Japanese
selkiesidhe@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Hmmm... English, French, German, Spanish. Japanese numbers, yes, but only half that if we're counting things (iykyk 🫤). I should learn Mandarin 1-10...
My pronunciation ofc is abysmal.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Portuguese, English, Japanese, German and in a good day, Spanish.
Portuguese is native; English and Japanese I learned from consuming content in those languages; German comes from my family (though I recently started studying it too). And Spanish because it's very similar to Portuguese so I just need to remember the differences.
Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 355d
Finnish, Swedish, Estonian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, German, Dutch, French, Spanish, Russian, English. Plus, Polish and Norwegian would go mostly right.
So, apparently 12.
However, I can say "I am am apple" in 30 languages. Much more useful.
RBWells@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I speak English and pidgin Spanish (like, if you really have NO English I can try, and I can read it ok, very slowly.) No French beyond ballet, food, and personal care products as those often come with French labels.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
English, French, Spanish, Korean, Mandarin, probably a few others I'm forgetting, I'm not good with translating numbers into sounds, I'd probably have more on the list if you ask me what languages i can say "it's okay" in, oh yeah i got the itchy knee I can do Japanese too. I think I learned Thai at some point before I gave up on their alphabet.
also counting in different romance languages is lame, show me how many language FAMILIES you can count in. oh shit you got the Bantu! oh yeah I can also do turkish
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Hmmm. That's an interesting point, although I know from experience if you try to use French numbers on Italians they seem to not understand.
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
English, Swedish, French, Hebrew, Latin
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Interested in ancient languages, or just in seminary school?
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Was taught Hebrew as a child, and learnt to count in Latin just out of interest
cabron_offsets@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
hossein@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y
4: Persian, English, Chinese, French
I used to be able to do so in Esperanto and Arabic as well but not anymore.
sxan@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
Oooo, I want to learn Persian, just for the script. I had a Persian girl friend briefly who taught me to spell my same; I've long since forgotten, but it's gorgeous.
When I met her, she insisted she was Persian. When I pressed her about it, she said it was for safety, because we were in the middle of Iran-Contra and she was worried telling people she was Iranian would get her animosity. Back then, I thought that was silly, but then, it turns out she understood my countrymen better than I did.
hossein@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y
Thanks for sharing your story.
If I weren't born Iranian, I'd learn Persian too just for the beautiful poems and songs that I haven't seen in any other language (Arabic and Urdu could come close though).
letsgo@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
I have four and so does my wife! English, French, German, Spanish/Russian (learnt before it was uncool).
Edit: I remembered I can do Dutch as well. So 5 for me, 4 for her. I could only remember 4 and 5 in Latin, had to look the rest up.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Russian is still a great language, IMO, and Russia has an interesting history. Sucks their current dictator is who he is, but then, our's sucks for us, too.
WaffleStomper@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
English, German, Spanish, Polish, French
nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
Four. English, Hindi, Marathi (native) and Kannada. Sanskrit as well, but it's a dead language, and I can't speak Sanskrit because the grammar is extremely complicated. Had it in school for 3 years. So 5, if you're counting Sanskrit.
I generally count in English, unless I am using another language with my friends (excluding Sanskrit).
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Sanskrit is so interesting, and an unusual one! It reminds me that I haven't seen anyone mention Latin yet, which is odd because it's relatively more common and you'd expect some lawyers and doctors on Lemmy.
I use Esperanto as my utility counting language, and I usually count in dozenal (with help-words for 10 & 11). Any time I'm doing any activity requiring me to tally, it's usually also mind-numbingly dull so adding mental gymnastics helps. Do you ever use Sanskrit this way? I think I would, if I knew any Sanskrit.
nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Esperanto is still a thing? I'm surprised.
Now that you mention it, sure, I think counting in Sanskrit would be somewhat amusing. It's such a serious, proper language. I don't ever use it in conversation, except for some fun proverbs.
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y
Marathi and Kannada??? Do u live in Belgaum?
nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Nice guess, but no.
Edit: जर्मन आणि मराठी? मी कर्नाटका पासून आहे, त्यामुळे म्हाला मराठी (मातृभाषा) आणि कन्नडा येते. जर्मनी मध्ये फॅमिली आहे का? NRI?
TerranFenrir@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 1y
नाही नाही. आम्हाला शाळेत ८-१०व्ही अर्ध हिंदी अर्ध जर्मन (१००च्या ऐवजी ५०-५० मार्कांसाठी) असल्यामुळे खूप थोडे जर्मन येते. तेव्हा बी २ पर्यंत यायचे. आता काही येत नाही lol.
पण माझ्या एका मित्राला खूप फायदा झाला जर्मन मुले. आता मस्त जर्मनी मध्ये फुकटात बॅचलर्स करतोय (तिथे जर्मन मध्ये शिकलात तर शिक्षणाची फी जर्मन सरकार भरते).
हो, कॅनडा मध्ये.
nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
👍
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Four. In one of them, literally only up to 10. The other 3, much higher.
wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
English, German, French, Dutch, Finnish.
With a bit of effort I might get pretty close in Spanish or Latin, but I'd probably make some mistakes, so that doesn't count.
Harrk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
4: English (native), Spanish (learned at school and 1-10 is about all I recall), Mandarin, and Japanese.
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
English, German, Spanish, ASL... 4
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Oooo, ASL! That refind me that I keep meaning to sign up for classes at the community college.
Deconceptualist@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
English, French, Spanish, German, Korean, Pig Latin, Oppish, Ubbi Dubbi
So eight, if the last few count.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Who am I to judge?
Elaine@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Four. Sign language, Mandarin + Mandarin hand signs, Spanish, English - and yes, I do use the other languages to entertain myself.
undeffeined@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
Portuguese, Spanish, French, English, Swedish and Finnish.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
I learned how to count to 10 and a few other random bits of Korean in Tae Kwon Do class.
MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y
...3? English, Spanish and German.
Though as I say this I am struggling to remember how to say 10 Spanish (I failed Spanish 3 times in highschool).
So let's calling it 2.9 lol
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Dos (point) nueve?
Shit. I'll have to add Spanish. Again, except for growing up in California, I have no justification for being able to count to ten, even if I can't spell the words right.
frank@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1y
Diez :)
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
English, Spanish, French, Latin, Russian, German, Japanese, Cantonese, ...
So 8. 10 is not very high. I'd have Arabic too, but I can only get to 5 :)
Edit: I can speak 3 of them, 2 passably, English natively. I took 5 of them in school. I had a Rammstein phase. 17 years Karate. And I dated a Hong Kong girl for 6 years and her family liked to play mah-jong but didn't speak English.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
I mentioned I lived in Germany for a couple of years, but a huge help was that I went through a Nina Hagen phase while I was there. Listening to music - the same music, repeatedly! - in the language can really help, can't it?
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
Sure can. Even better if a song includes counting to 10, at least for the purposes of this post.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
It doesn't. It's just "99" a bunch.
tauren@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
It's too bad you skipped your Rammstein phase, you could learn how to count from 1 to 9!
https://genius.com/2194096
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 1y
Exactly! Just have to deliberately remember 10 is not "AUS!"
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
I had a Rammstein phase; it was just long after I'd moved back from Germany.
grue@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
wa', cha', wej, loS, vagh, jav, Soch, chorgh, Hut, wa'maH
(I can also do English, Latin, Spanish, French, and Japanese.)
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
I can count to ten in English (native), Japanese (did Karate for about a decade) and Spanish (took classes in middle and high school).
I can ... read and listen to Spanish and maybe understand at about a 2nd or 3rd grade level... very much out of practice.
I would not say I can speak Japanese or understand it ... basically at all, unless the conversation entirely consists of either counting, or using nouns describing Karate forms, lol.
The first time I dated ... a combination weeabo and owns her own horses, horse girl, who was actually taking Japanese in college to major in it...
She asked me a very grammatically basic question in Japanese, a yes no question...
And I responded 'Osu!'... and then quickly learned that that is not a standard Japanese word for 'yes', that would be 'Hai', and that Osu ... basically only contextually makes sense in the context of a dojo or some other sports/military type setting.
Apparently in proper/normal? Japanese it is a casual greeting amongst martial arts practitioners... but I was literally drilled to say it as an enthusiastic, affirmative response to any command.
EDIT: Also, this will sound insane, but I swear to god this actually happened: Many years after the aforementioned clarification from my at the time gf... I later encountered a man who told me he was ... a yakuza, specifically a yakushi... we chatted for hours, he showed me how one of his fingers had been severely busted at the knuckle.
He explained to me that... there had been a fuckup on his part, but his... direct superior decided to basically accept some of the blame for the fuckup of this guy I met, and struck him with the blunt side of the blade instead of the sharp side... and then exiled him.
Which was why he was in America, and could no longer safely return to Japan.
Anyway, he explained to me that the reason why... most Japanese say 'yon' instead of 'shi' to mean '4' ... is because 'shi' is also the character/sound that... basically means 'death'.
Which then circled around to why he referred to himself as a 'yakushi'.
As he explained it to me, it meant that he had both dealt, and been sparred from death.
... I have no idea if what this guy was saying is actually true, if he actually was a yakuza... but he did tell me these things and seemed very serious about them.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
That's fascinating! I mean, there are yakuza, so it's not like someone telling you they're a ninja. Although, there are probably technically ninja, too... but it anyone was going to tell you they were a gangster, it'd probably be an ex-gangster who wasn't in hiding.
Anyway, cool story.
We learned "hai" in Aikido. I don't remember hearing "osu" used. All my Japanese phrases are counting and related to training, but some are generally useful. When to use "arigato" vs "domi arigato", vs "domo arigato gozaimashita" (escalations in politeness); "onegaishimas". I doubt, learning it Nth-hand removed from an actual Japanese speaker, that my pronunciation is at all comprehensible. And I've forgotten so much :-(
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 1y
I remember a few more terms and phrases...
But... ok so this may also sound ridiculous, but basically, when I speak in Japanese, I find my tone just naturally shifts to be lower, bassier.
I am decently good at singing in English, and am a baritone.
But when I just normally speak in English, its usually a bit higher pitched than the middle point of my singing range.
... But when I speak in Japanese, it is either at or lower than the middle point of my English singing range.
I do not do this intentionally and am not sure why... I do this, lol.
Maybe it is again trained into me from associating shouting out numbers and osu in Japanese with very intentional diapraghm/breathing control from Karate?
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
That's really interesting, and your theory sounds good. All martial arts have their personalities; Aikido is very structured, but not loud; Wing Chin is very quiet, and more laid back; Jiu Justsu is pretty quiet, too, except for a lot of grunting. Karate is quite martial - it reminds me of being in the Army. I've never studied it, but one of my friends did, and I sat in on a couple of classes. There's an awful lot of shouting.
idriss@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Arabic, French, English, Chinese (mandarin), Russian.
Dicska@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Spoken: 3 at best. Counting to 10: 6.
Not just counting, but sometimes I might say a word or a phrase in another language because I find it sounds humorous in the moment. Poor Italian gets ridiculed the most 🤌🤌.
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
Hah! For me it's Spanish, because I grew up in California and picked up some pidgin phrases. Mostly rude ones, which I doubt I'm pronouncing correctly.
Oh! I just remembered that I know a handful of Russian phrases, because of an... encounter... in college; but I can't count to 10 in it. So there's a deviation on my own question.
Dicska@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Hmm, can you give me an example or two to those pidgin phrases? Are they akin to car<->carro?
sxan@midwest.social · 2 pts · 1y
No. I don't know how offensive they are; a couple are slurs against white people, but still. I don't remember many of them, but the ones I do I'm not willing to repeat.
zagreas@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
I can do it in English, Greek, German, Czech, Italian, Dutch, and Spanish (but I only speak the first 3)
scytale@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
pan0wski@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1y
English, Croatian, Polish and German.
mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y
English, French, German, Portuguese, Spanish, and Japanese. Nothing special tbh.
theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
English, Hebrew, Spanish, and Japanese
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
There's a lot of overlap on these ones. Hebrew showing up a lot doesn't surprise me; comprehension at ba*mitzvah for practicing Jews is still mandatory, right?
SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
German, Cantonese, mandarin, English, French.
I used to know in Swahili too, does that count ?
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
"Used to" is iffy, but sure. Why not? I'm sure if you read it once again, you'd be able to do it until you forgot again.
match@pawb.social · 2 pts · 1y
bow many languages does Japanese count for
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Ichi
konalt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
One two three four five six seven eight nine ten (English)
Aon dó trí ceathar cúig sé seacht ocht naoi deich (Irish)
один два три четыре пять шесть семь восемь девять десять (Russian)
un deux troix quatre cinq six sept huit neuf dix (French)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (cheating)
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Bonus points for Celtic, and using Cryllic characters!
Regulator0394@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
Six: Spanish, Basque, English, French, German and Polish. Natives are Basque and Spanish.
sxan@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
I don't know much about Basque; I'd probably know nothing I'd it weren't for the separatists; conflict is about the only way foreign news makes it into the US :-/
FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
English, Spanish, russian