"We're trying for a baby" is sexually graphic, and disgusting

It means they're having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her.

It should not be tolerated at the workplace. I'm forced to listen to this rhetoric because my shift isn't done yet, and I can't leave without getting fired. I'm forced into a sexual discussion without consent, and it's so graphically disgusting that I feel nauseous.

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lemmus@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 1y (5 replies)
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FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 1y (1 reply)

By OP's logic, you shouldn't be able to tell anyone you are pregnant or that you have children because that eludes to the fact that at one point you've had sex. Next HR is going to remove the bathrooms from the office, because it assumes that people are pissing somewhere.

ChexMax@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y

You probably also shouldn't mention that you have a mother or a father because that forces OP to picture your parents doing the deed to make you. Same goes for siblings and grandparents.

Khrux@ttrpg.network · 7 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I agree, knowing other people have sex is absolutely fine, in fact I assume it as default for basically any adult in a relationship. Not using protection may be unwise in almost all cases, but trying for a baby with a partner is the main exception, and it's never been gross.

I understand that a lot of people have been raised with shame, and I feel a certain pity for them, but I'm not a fan of treating this shame as righteous.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Literally every human being around you exists because of sex. Imagine being creeped out by existing.

MotoAsh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
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Crispycrebs@lemmy.world · 81 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Grow up love, your dad shot a fucking red hot load into your mum and thats why you're here. 21st century ridiculousness. Very unpopular opinion have an upvote.

MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

red hot

You should see a doctor...

Hegar@fedia.io · 70 pts · 1y (3 replies)

This is a truly US level of being uncomfortable with the basic fact of life.

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Makhno@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Yeah, in the city we fuckin

Khrux@ttrpg.network · 2 pts · 1y

In the countryside, we fucken too

zelgo@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Bro, how do you think human life works? This is natural, sorry you are sensitive by very tame terminology. Perhaps you should talk to someone about why a necessary natural process causes you so much turmoil. I get that this is a workplace but is it too much to ask to allow for some personal freedom rather than sitting quietly working as a bot all day for your corporate overlords?

Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz · 30 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Based on the name of the community and the responses I’ve seen here, this is exactly the right place for this opinion.

zelgo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

I don't disagree, I was just offering some perspective.

zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com · 56 pts · 1y

"I'm going to the bathroom" is sexually graphic, and disgusting.

It means ejecting urine and or feces from the body and it finishes in the toilet.

It should not be tolerated at the workplace. I'm forced to listen to this rhetoric because my shift isn't done yet, and I can't leave without getting fired. I'm forced into a sexual discussion without consent, and it's so graphically disgusting that I feel nauseous.

RBWells@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I am very happy to see, reading the responses, that this is indeed an unpopular opinion. You sound quite squeamish and prudish. The couple is already presumably having sex, why in the world does it bother you that they acknowledge (with a completely not graphic euphemistic comment) that they want a baby? It's not a sexual comment.

Upvoted for unpopularity.

Zorque@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y

I think it's a common opinion in childfree circles. anything to dunk on "natalists".

henfredemars@infosec.pub · 47 pts · 1y (16 replies)

Fantastic unpopular opinion. Post is work of a scholar.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 24 pts · 1y (14 replies)
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stinky@redlemmy.com · -34 pts · 1y (13 replies)

Why are you upset? I think you're mad because gay people don't want to hear about straight sex practices. Please answer this question.

DBT@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1y

Are they going into detail about their sex or did they just say they were trying to have a baby?

If it’s only the latter then it’s about as inappropriate as women showing their bare ankles in public and you may be overreacting just a tad.

ETA: please answer this question.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 17 pts · 1y (9 replies)
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Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 1y (8 replies)

It would be weird for someone to randomly walk out of their office.

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 5 pts · 1y (7 replies)
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Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 1 pts · 1y (6 replies)

It's not his fault he's in a neighboring cubicle

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org · 6 pts · 1y
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Kickforce@lemmy.wtf · 9 pts · 1y

Pff dude you think when you say that you are gay, that you have a pure platonic relationship where you wear gloves to hold hands?

lemmus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
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Doll_Tow_Jet-ski@fedia.io · 14 pts · 1y

Look at the up and down votes. You did it, OP <3

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nebulaone@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 1y (12 replies)

No offense, but there is a point at which others aren't at fault and the behavior you're asking of them is ridiculous.

stinky@redlemmy.com · -38 pts · 1y (11 replies)

I'm a gay man. If I said to you, "my boyfriend has bareback anal sex with me and cums in my ass" at work, would you find it work-appropriate? Please answer.

Mist101@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 1y

False equivalency here, gay bro. Words mean things. Your original example was a euphemism, not graphic detail. Then you equated it with graphic detail, not euphemism. Most of the time, when people say they're "trying for a baby" (sorry, was that too graphic for you?) the meaning is more than "We're having vaginal sex." it's also "We're being intentional, have discussed it together, decided we both want it, and are excited about being parents." Furthermore, there is a possibility that this couple has struggled to have kids for vairous reasons, and are still determined. Maybe go have more gay sex and let your orgasms calm you down, gay bro.

nebulaone@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y

What do I even reply to this?

Me personally and genuinely, would reply with "ok." or "cool." and that would be it.

Statick@programming.dev · 15 pts · 1y

False equivalency, obviously.

That being said your mindset is literally the mindset the homophobes have... Hearing the words "gay couple" means having to think about homosexuals and causes them discomfort and they want it gone. You literally just identifying as a gay man makes them think of exactly what you typed out there.

EisFrei@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y

"I'm a gay man" might already elicit the image you paint in some people.
So not that different.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org · 11 pts · 1y

Your example was "we're trying for a baby", not literally your first sentence in your post.

RBWells@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y

They aren't saying that, though. It's the equivalent of you saying "my boyfriend and I are going on a cruise."

lwuy9v5@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (4 replies)

You are also able to use the euphemism. A queer couple can say "we are trying for a baby" to refer to the process of adopting or ivf or anything like that.

Nasan@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1y

Hell, the hetero couple could be in that position where unassisted pregnancy isn't viable and are looking for the same alternatives.

tabris@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

We also use "I'm trying for a baby" as a euphemism for sex. In fact, my favorite euphemism is "just dropping the kids off at the pool"

Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 1y

"not trying for a baby, just through the motions."

MotoAsh@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
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markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 1y

Why are kids these days such prudes? How do you think you got here lol.

njm1314@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 1y

Even the Victorian era thinks you might be a prude.

remon@ani.social · 35 pts · 1y

Ridiculous ... but certainly unpopular, take an upvote.

Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 31 pts · 1y

Graphic ? meaning you're picturing it mentally ? that's you lacking control over your own brain

pjwestin@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 1y

You are definitionally wrong. A graphic description means, "Describing or depicting in vivid and realistic detail." Saying, "We're trying for a baby," would be considered euphemistically sexual at best. A graphically sexual description would be something like, I don't know..."having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her."

CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y (1 reply)

OP does not know what "sexually graphic" means.

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expr@programming.dev · 26 pts · 1y

Honestly, you might need therapy. But definitely an unpopular opinion, I'll give you that.

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 1y (2 replies)

If I were to tell you that I have 3 kids, would you also be disgusted that I've had vaginal sex at least 3 times? Or is that somehow different?

Unpopular opinion for sure, but one built on immaturity and inability to reason as an adult.

If you were in an office and someone says that they are dropping loads in their wife, yea, that's fucked up and significantly different from saying that they're trying to have a child.

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 12 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Just wait until they realize their parents had sex, maybe even more than once!

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

Eeewwwwwwww.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y (4 replies)

It means they’re having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her.

Did you just find this out? Welcome to humanity. Every human being around you also farts, shits, and pisses too. That means if they excuse themselves to go to the bathroom that they very well may be creating a devastatingly disgusting mountain of shit covered in blood and bowel mucus that would humble Shrek himself. Does that mean someone excusing themselves to the bathroom is disgusting too?

You are focusing on .000000001% of what actually "trying for a baby" entails. It's not just the act of sex. It's the acceptance of two loving people that they are attempting to change their lives forever and be responsible for a child. It's letting other people know that a life change is coming and expect an emotional roller coaster. For YOU to focus on the sex aspect is actually kind of weird.

stinky@redlemmy.com · -24 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Thanks for the response. If a gay coworker described bareback sex to you, would you find it work-appropriate? Please answer.

FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y

Talk about sex is inappropriate regardless of orientation. A person explaining that they are at a point in their life that they are ready for or attempting to have a child is odd, in my opinion, but not inappropriate. Again, YOU are relating this to sex, not them.

RBWells@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

Did they describe the sex though? Like came up to you and, unsolicited, said "OMG my husband shot such a big load inside me!", or did they just say they were trying to have a baby?

When someone says they are going to lunch do you say "eew, you are going to chew that food with all that saliva and then swallow it, and it's gonna travel through your digestive system and then you are going to poop? Why are you telling me this?"

AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

Every one of your opinions is more unpopular than the last, you are the king of this place. This is for you:

👑

ikidd@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 1y

This must be an American.

Hereforpron2@lemmynsfw.com · 21 pts · 1y

I'm so sorry to be the one to tell you this, but people are having sex all the time. I know it may be a shock, but the truth is stranger than fiction! In fact, and this is truly reprehensible, even animals are doing it. But no one should be allowed to reference it and we should all consider it gross. That makes sense.

Hello_there@fedia.io · 17 pts · 1y (3 replies)

It's part of life. Like, literally. That's how this all works. Best to get used to the concept.

henfredemars@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 1y (2 replies)

I mean, so is death, but the corpo workplace convention is that I should temper it with phrases such as “passed away” and “is no longer with us.”

I’d love if I could just say we’re fucking raw instead of the OP verbiage.

RBWells@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I actually hate those euphemisms and tend to say "I was so sorry to hear your x died, are you doing ok?" Things like that. Just always feel like it would be so annoying to have all that "sorry for your loss" it's so sterile.

henfredemars@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 1y

Indeed. I don’t believe we should brush the experiences of life under a rug. These are some of the most common shared human experiences. I think the world would be a better place if we talked about them more openly.

Reddfugee42@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y

You're broken.

bstix@feddit.dk · 13 pts · 1y

It might be a cultural thing, but where I live, people usually don't talk about it at work until the pregnancy has been successfully confirmed, in order to avoid the uncomfortable talks that a potential unsuccessful pregnancy would result in.

The only ones who talk about trying are often the ones who have difficulties with it. They could be getting a baby through insemination or fertility treatment and need time off for that etc.

possumparty@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 1y (1 reply)

OP is definitely a virgin, and very likely an incel. Also a high chance that OP is gay. It's okay, you can come out of the closet.

Hegar@fedia.io · 5 pts · 1y

OP mentions being gay and sexually active in comments from over a day ago. So you're kinda 0 for 3, since I don't think accusing an out gay person of being closeted counts as accurate.

callouscomic@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y

Hahahahaha. I often imagine other people having sex. It's sometimes hilarious. Nobody can stop me.

Also some people get pregnant other ways. They could be referring to in vitro or related procedures. For those people it can be very difficult and expensive. Be more positive and supportive of other people's hopes and dreams, or at least be neutral.

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vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Had a colleague who said that he's disgusted when another colleague talks about his boyfriend. He advocated it basically because he was imagining anal sex between them all the time.

Three years later, these colleagues are boyfriends 💞💞💞

stinky@redlemmy.com · -10 pts · 1y (2 replies)

that's hot

CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y

Hypocrisy on display

vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 1y

How's that hot? Liberals made a straight man into a homo

Noite_Etion@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

Sounds like something Hank Hill would get upset about.

"I'm going to go number 2" - Disgusting and graphic.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y

People also say this when they are doing IVF and other fertility treatments. In fact every time I have heard this it involved fertility treatment because otherwise they just announce they are expecting.

It means they’re having bareback sex and the man orgasms while inside her.

Most of the time announcing a pregnancy or even just seeing kids at the park also means someone had sweaty bareback sex. Is it only bad when they announce it before the pregnancy?

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Taco2112@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y

What if they are trying to have a baby through in vitro fertilization? Your mind is what’s immediately going to sex. If someone is being more graphic in their description and talking about raw dogging and how often, then I think you have a case.

I don’t want to hear about people trying for kids either but I personally don’t care and just don’t engage in the conversation.

scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech · 8 pts · 1y

This, folks, is a perfect example of projection. OP is a gay man and has worried that others judge him for his preference, so he judges others for the same thing.

The healthy thing of course would be to learn to let it roll off his back, and in calming that, he would calm his own worry about others judging him.

Outwit1294@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 1y (2 replies)

“I put a thick load in my wife last night”

“My husband cums inside me all the time now”

I think these are way worse

lime@feddit.nu · -1 pts · 1y (1 reply)

they mean the same thing though

Outwit1294@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y

Yes, but usually people share this with only close ones and not publicly. I think it is okay to be gross with close people.

DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

I don't think the statement is bad, but I can see why many wouldn't want to hear it in detail.

Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Yeah, no one needs to know your fella is rawdogging you regularly. Telling us when you're actually pregnant makes more sense.

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

What's the difference between "we're trying to have a baby" and "we've tried and we're having a baby"?

stinky@redlemmy.com · -10 pts · 1y

Correct

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 1y

Yeah... Personally, I'd rather hear that a couple is trying for a baby over the bigoted shit I usually hear at work.

kepix@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

op doesnt seem to get any

AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

No, he hates pussy, and anything that makes him think of pussy, honestly Dan Savage (famous advice gay) has the same hang up. I respect it.

FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1y (2 replies)

It's not that crazy, but it's a little uncomfortable to basically just be told that 2 people are rawdogging. It's nowhere near nausea inducing, and it's not really a sexual discussion. Would I rather not hear it? Of course. Is it that bad? Not really.

stinky@redlemmy.com · -10 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It's nowhere near nausea inducing

Are you sure? I find it nauseating, so I'm not sure why you're saying I don't.

FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 12 pts · 1y

It should be nowhere near nausea inducing, my mistake. Would you happen to be a sex repulsed asexual?

Fedditor385@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (3 replies)

I would also jump to the first conclusion that OP is oversexualizing stuff, but on the other hand, there are many other ways to give the information which doesn't induce pictures in brains od people who are very visually oriented. "We hope/plan to have kids in the near future/soon/within a year or two".

Same as we don't need to know people have blasting diarrhea, enough to say they have digestive problems or stomach pain.

volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y (2 replies)

But how is "we hope to have kids soon" any different to "we're trying for a baby"? Both implies they (are going to) have sex. And both isn't the same as "my husband is gonna cum inside me this weekend and we're thinking brezel dip since we don't enjoy missionary that much I just don't get that stimulated since his penis is on the smaller side but also I should be lying down right? I mean we are usually the doggy type of people but that's just not that good for the sperm to travel up the vag. But with missionary his dick just tends to slip out and if that happens right before orgasm and we lose all the jizz this cycle is gonna be done for. So we're gonna go for some obazda if you know what I'm saying"

I personally already have graphic images when I just hear people talking about their kids. That means these people did it at least the number of times they have children. My mind automatically goes there. But that's my problem, no one is pulling their dick out and no one is telling me anything graphic.

Fedditor385@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Because "We are trying for a baby" gives the "we fuck right now every moment we can" vibe, while "we hope to have kids soon" gives the "we have sex just like any other couple in the world, we just don't use protection" vibe.

If you are discusted by "we plan to have kids soon" you might aswell be discusted by the fact people have sex in general. In that case you simply have an oversexualized mind and the problem really isn't anymore in what words people use because any words will trigger you. You do notice women walk around with breasts. So discusting.

volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee · 0 pts · 1y

I don't get the "we fuck all the time" vibe from hearing "we are trying for a baby", but maybe because I've seen the reality of it; most people who are trying for a baby are informed enough to know that you don't need to go wild most of the month, and most people have been together for quite some time and have stressful day to day lives that don't allow (lust, time, and energy wise) for fucking all the time.

Usually "we are trying for a baby" implies they stopped using contraceptives and are tracking the cycle to fuck once or twice within the fertile window. It's not that different from regular sex within a long term relationship. (If trying for a baby makes you go wild and you fuck like bunnies every day for months on end more power to you though!)

But then again I am not disgusted by the idea of people having sex or bodily fluids. If they share TMI I'm usually just like "nice" or "good for you!" and enjoy the fact that they are open enough and we are close enough for me to hear details about their private life.

That being said, why would anyone at work share that they are trying for a baby to begin with? Work environment usually doesn't welcome pregnancy - it implies more sick leave, parental leave, and more emergency days off once the kid is older. Just saying "one day I'd like to start a family" makes you a less attractive person for a position. So I would always imply that I don't want kids, I don't want a family, I don't even like kids and I am infertile.

thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

If someone uses that occasion to turn to you and ask if you’re ever going to have a kid, just respond with “not unless I’ve got ovaries on my tonsils!” And then somehow that’s a visit with HR.

stinky@redlemmy.com · -9 pts · 1y

Correct

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Could go even further and announce you're practicing how it's done. Even without trying for a baby. And like you're constantly getting better... Or lost 2 pounds due to the additional workout...

spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

"Went to the doctor to put a load in a plastic cup so they could insert it with a medical tool."

"We are getting IVF treatment, so we froze some medically inseminated eggs to omplant mater, but wanted to sound like everyone else when saying we were trying because it is frustrating finding out getting pregnant is a lot more difficult for us than other people."

Are those better?

hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 5 pts · 1y

I'm the wrong person to judge. I'm completely indifferent. I'd say "good for you" but really couldn't care less. Unless that was my boss or mom or something...

sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y (3 replies)

THANK GOD someone else thinks this. I don't want to hear this at all. Ever.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Yeah I have 3 kids, never once did I go around telling people that I was trying to have kids. Of course I wasn't trying they just happen naturally.

Never understood that trying to have a baby thing. Seems weird to me. I assume all married couples either on birth control or having bareback sex. But then again don't hang around people who dicuss their sex life either.

AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

More people than you might expect don't find it easy to conceive. That wasn't my experience (if anything it was "too quick") but I think sometimes people are asking you to hope/pray or whatever that they can make it happen.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Yeah everyone of my kids was conceived quickly. Why their mother got me fixed after the 3rd. I hated the pullout method and she didn't want anymore kids with me lol.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 1y

i downvoted because I agree !

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chosensilence@pawb.social · -10 pts · 1y (11 replies)

here's the thing i don't know if many consider: being able to announce to an entire room full of strangers that you are having unprotected penetrative vaginal sex for the purpose of procreation is a unique experience only straight people are allowed to have. if i, as a gay person, merely make mention of my same-sex love life it may be seen as me "shoving it in everyone's faces" or "inappropriate," because the sex i have is pointless and therefore not worthy of the same kind of social acknowledgment. it's frustrating to hear straight people say shit like "yeah we're trying for a baby" because all i want to do is tell people i'm going to spend the weekend cuddled up with my boyfriend and i often can't.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y

being able to announce to an entire room full of strangers that you are having unprotected penetrative vaginal sex for the purpose of procreation is a unique experience only straight people are allowed to have.

y lesbian coworker announced she was trying to have a baby, which was through IVF. That doesn't include the raw dogging part, but it does meet the announcing to a room part.

Do straight people normally announce how they are trying? Everyone I know that said they were trying were doing fertility treatments that involved doctors doing an insemination instead of raw dogging it.

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (7 replies)

You're changing "trying to have a baby" to "unprotected vaginal sex" which is not what's being said, and comparing that to you saying "cuddling your BF". If you immediately jump to the specific details about them having sex, that's a you problem and kinda fucked up.

If you want to say you're cuddling your BF this weekend, and people are upset about it, put them on the spot and ask why. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that statement. Publicly shame people for their bigotry, and maybe they'll grow up or at least shut up.

I'm not gay. I worked in manufacturing for almost a decade, and those environments tend to attract a certain demographic of people. One June I put a rainbow flag up on my desk and it stayed there until I left the company. One of my favorite past times was pressuring people who made back handed comments to explain them. Admittedly, I grew up in a small town with 3 black people and no out gay people. It took me a minute to get comfortable with something that I grew up thinking was disgusting because of my surroundings. I fortunately didn't have to be shamed into change, just exposure was enough, but there are others that will never get there on their own.

chosensilence@pawb.social · -4 pts · 1y (6 replies)

what are you talking about? tell me what "trying for a baby" means if not having PIV sex lol. hey buddy, you don't know how it is to be gay in the workplace, so maybe don't tell me what i should or shouldn't do when my livelihood is on the line. think about your privilege here and who you are talking to. my point was this: people can make statements that IMPLY they are having sex with each other but i can't be assured my statement of merely cuddling with my boyfriend won't get me harassed or made to feel othered.

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (5 replies)

I think that if you immediately jump to PIV sex, that's fucked up. Grow up, be an adult. That's it. Other than that, take control of your own life. You don't like people putting you down for being gay? Don't put up with it. Stick up for yourself, or don't. Idgaf.

chosensilence@pawb.social · 0 pts · 1y (4 replies)

what the fuck else would that statement imply

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Someone is starting a family? Someone is going through an emotional situation? Someone is going getting IVF? There's a lot more to having a child than fucking. Again, the fact that your mind immediately jumps to that conclusion and further that it grosses you out is extremely juvenile. There are 5th graders learning about sex ed that handle the notion of PIV sex better than you, who I assume is an adult.

chosensilence@pawb.social · 3 pts · 1y (2 replies)

that is a fair point. it's a sore subject for me, unfortunately. i may not have approached the topic in the right head space having grown up experiencing shame for simply being attracted to the same gender. i'd watch couples smile and laugh together and say, "we're trying for a baby," clearly implying what i was describing, and the room just reacting positively and encouragingly. you see that over and over and you can't help but develop a negative connection to the phrase. what you said is of course true. i don't react with disgust towards anyone, so at least i'm not making my discomfort known, but you've given me something to mull over and try to correct. sometimes you forget that you aren't being attacked anymore when it's all you've been used to.

BassTurd@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

NGL, I don't think that this was the response I was expecting. If you're being sincere, then I apologize for the hostility in what I've said. I got heated and said some things that are harsh. I know that as a straight caucasian male that I come from a place of privilege, and it's definitely easier to say something than it is to do something.

It's difficult for me to wrap my head around the idea that talking about pregnancy can be a trigger in this sense, but I do empathize with your situation. When I said I grew up in a small down with no out gay people, that was true. Within a year of me graduating, at least 5 maybe a couple more of my class of around 70 came out. One of them definitely went through some shit in school, because kids can be awful. I can proudly say I wasn't one of the bullies, but you'd have to live under a rock to not see it happening. I have no doubts that that can have a slew of possible effects that carry on into adulthood.

That's a lot of words to say, I hope that if you're going through some stuff or still fighting demons, that you find your way and live a happy life with the partner of your choosing.

stinky@redlemmy.com · -9 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Correct. Thanks for understanding. And I'm sorry. Hopefully someday we'll reach real inclusion. Best of luck to you and your family

lemmus@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
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