That's fine, I'm just saying the "shouldn't have been out that late and was probably a criminal anyway" is eerily close to what is said when people are victim blaming. Better just say that he deserved it for being a shit person
It's not a matter of "he's probably a criminal anyway," he's something far worse that a criminal. There no "probably" about it. He's a psychopathic traitor who actively, enthusiastically attacked/ damaged/ destroyed/ stole, etc. extremely valuable and sensitive agencies and data, and he deserves life in prison.
Entitled white boys are only out that late soliciting prostitutes or buying coke
And another one in the same thread
wouldn’t be surprised if he propositioned the children.
Like that's just making up shit to justify things, similar to how often there's that "why was the black guy out that late, probably selling drugs" shit. Why bother when you can just point to the actual shit this guy has done
He's a psycho traitor scumbag, of course he was out doing psycho traitor scumbag stuff. Every moment that he breathes, he's doing something to hurt every person in the country. We have no obligation to treat him like he's a decent person who deserves the benefit of the doubt.
MAGA Nazis fully invent the most heinous lies about good people, speculating about what this traitor was doing is perfectly acceptable.
I think he is too young to be Luigi'd. He has capacity for reflection, contrition and transformation. But he did need to be checked, no doubt. Chances are this will not wake him up. His future will be in some minimum security prison for embezzlement or fraud or some other white collar crime.
Buy don't you see the circumstances of the situation matters? A black man being beat up by police on his way home late one night after buying diapers for his toddler, sounds pretty awful and unjust right? Well turns out it was Clarence Thomas. Cool he got beat, but still makes it an unjust and disgusting crime that needs to be punished. Especially when they thought it was just some random easy target.
That's exactly why I'm bothered about this. And besides, it's not like the person wasn't a shitbag without it, why bother making up extra justification
I'll copy here what i wrote above, hopefully that's alright
That’s fine, I’m just saying the “shouldn’t have been out that late and was probably a criminal anyway” is eerily close to what is said when people are victim blaming. Better just say that he deserved it for being a shit person
For me I think it's more that nothing about the official story makes sense. It seems much more likely he was being a shithead and got punched while shopping. What he was shopping for should be largely irrelevant.
At 3 am, he took his shirt off and said "I will take you MFers, don't you know who I am? BIG BALLS... and then, the WWF simping jerk got his nose punched in.
This is probably a dumb question, but I'm always out of the loop: What exactly did this guy (or kid? He looks like he could be in his teens) do to piss everyone off?
I try not to ask questions that could easily be Googled, but I'd rather not search for "big balls."
He took all of our personal data and gave it to plantir so they can destroy our democracy and terrorize brown people. He was probably out soliciting underage girls for prostitution when he got knocked out. On a karma scale he deserves to get knocked out every day for the rest of his life.
Teenager with a dumb nickname who Elon picked up as a DOGE guy. I think he was the one who resigned after the Internet found social posts in his history that were pretty racist or something. He got rehired right after he resigned.
Tolerant? I'm fucking intolerant of the current government and little shits like this being put into a position to either be totally worthless or do serious damage to this country.
Nobody is obligated to tolerate evil, and MAGA is the most evil political system on the earth today. All MAGA Nazis are Traitors, pedophiles, racists, corrupt, rapists, and more, and should be resisted at every opportunity.
Who cares? The MAGA Nazis would just make up the worst story possible, like the attack on Paul Pelosi, then just spread it as truth, and happily believe it.
So we can invent the truth, too. MAGA Morons always forget that two can play this game.
I would not believe a single word he, or Drumpfs police say about the matter.
Most likely, he was hitting on the 15 year old girl that beat him up, which would be typical for anyone GOP.
The time for being nice is long past. These fuckers aren't just not "nice". They're murderous scum that enjoy making people suffer. Time for some pushback.
Mmm. cept this ain't exactly losing "all moral standards", just your moral standards, which the vast majority of people never held in the first place. Why are you obsessed with the idea that your way is the morally correct way? Where does that come from?
Im not obsessed that im correct.
I think that uploading a picture of a teenager that is laying in his own bload (probably unconscious) after he got beaten up is wrong. Especially if its inteded to mock him.
Now I am discussing this matter on lemmy.
Who is wrong or right will be presumably never known.
Oh fuck off with this, this POS is responsible for untold (because he helped destroy the evidence) damage to this country - the cuts he smugly helped make have resulted in actual deaths. If anyone deserved this it's this guy. Reap what you show and all that.
If someone, who suffers under his actions, beats him up - totally understandable.
And that people who are suffering are applauding. Sure, human nature.
But still: Nobody deserves to be undignifyied.
Careful now, if your head gets any bigger you'll risk getting all top heavy and falling off your high horse, and that would be undignified!
Seriously, why is celebrating people standing up to a truly abhorrent actor somehow problematic for you? Even the most thoughtless argument in it's favor, that "fascists might be dissuaded by seeing there are actual consequences for their actions", is preeeetty goddamn valid. I think you might want to unpack why you're more eager to defend the "dIgNiTy" of a fascist POS than celebrate the introduction of positive reinforcement in said fascist's life. Is it really important to you that this shitstain's honor be defended? You don't think the fascists don't have apologists enough already, you just have to throw your support in with their cause?
Just glossing over the whole "fall off your high horse" thing: Man it kinda feels like there's a lot you should be unpacking here.
For example, conflating fascist apologia as a facet of a desire for universal human rights is some worryingly impressive mental gymnastics. Are you sure the negative reaction your opinion has received isn't driving you to entrench yourself so deep into your philosophical position that you're losing sight of the values you held initially? That's a trap I see well meaning people fall into not infrequently, when they misjudge the depth of feeling other people hold for an issue, or present a petition for peace & love without realizing how smugly condescending it might come across. Seriously, why're you behaving like this?
No, there are no metal gymnastics needed. There are some basics rights that should always be respected.
Even if your fighting the big-time-nazi-scum-arseholes.
If every teenager who gives himself shity names is losing his dignity, there wont be much dignity left in the world to fight for
Edit: And before you understand this wrong. Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back. But still, as I said in another comentary: In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.
Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back.
As long as no one treats him with disrespect. Can't have that.
In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights.
He's not starving in Gaza. He can still use the restroom that matches his gender. He's not being kidnapped and held in a concentration camp in a swamp or El Salvador. He has healthcare. Oh noes, he talked shit and got hit and people are mocking him on the internet. Call Geneva! His precious fashy rights have ALL been taken away from him!
Go fuck your hat. This attitude is the exact reason you all got this shit stain of a situation to deal with in the first place.
I might not be a wise schoolar. But I sure as hell know how to un fuck a fuck. And talking about it and being nice to a fuck is not the way to get it fixed.
I dont judge you for beeing happy about the attack. I am judging a uploaded photo of a person laying on the floor, probably unconscious, in his own blood, with the intent of making fun of him
There is likely no point in trying to be nice to such a person. His mindset probably sees being nice as a weakness to exploit. Ofcourse you might argue that making fun of him being beaten should be above a person who is not as simple as him, that I might agree with. But not doing this for the sake of being nice to him? Nah.
I don't think so either. I mean why would I spend my energy to do anything positive for a person who seems completely fine with destroying thousands of people's livelihoods all the while keeping a cocky attitude about it. The nickname that seems to be the product of a college level fraternity brain is just the icing on the top but very much helps me form this opinion too. The most I will ever do is stay neutral.
It’s always the paradox of tolerance with you goobers. Feel free to lay down and let facsists walk over you, but don’t you dare get in my way when I’m fighting back.
Just in case you weren’t aware, you’re not enlightened, you’re naive. You’ll be asking politely for fascism to stop as it tears down everything around you. And the worst part? You’ll look around at the chaos and go “at least I stuck to my morals”. Maybe you have nothing worth fighting for - I do. And I’ll fight in anyway that gains me ground, while you grovel for validation that you were a good little Samaritan.
Quite the keyboard warrior you are. As far as I can tell, there’s only been one Luigi, and even with him going first Americans are still too cowed to fight, INCLUDING you.
Because I have zero context, I am appalled at your thirty downvotes. But please reply with a news link or context so I might understand what is happening here.
Ok, I think I dont understand your message completly.
The sympathy he gets
compared
to the sympathy for the opponents of the genocide (gaza I assume?)
On lemmy
He got none, they got some and rapidly increasingly more? Or whats your point there?
152 Comments
Almacca@aussie.zone · 146 pts · 354d
The worst thing about this guy getting beaten up was that it had nothing to do with his actions at DOGE. It was just some random muggers.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 75 pts · 353d
Entitled white boys are only out that late soliciting prostitutes or buying coke. He got knocked out because he was doing some dumb shit.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 29 pts · 353d
We are getting into some real victim blaming territory
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 36 pts · 353d
He's not a victim, he's a psychopathic predator who caught a karma ricochet. It should have been worse.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 21 pts · 353d
That's fine, I'm just saying the "shouldn't have been out that late and was probably a criminal anyway" is eerily close to what is said when people are victim blaming. Better just say that he deserved it for being a shit person
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 353d
It's not a matter of "he's probably a criminal anyway," he's something far worse that a criminal. There no "probably" about it. He's a psychopathic traitor who actively, enthusiastically attacked/ damaged/ destroyed/ stole, etc. extremely valuable and sensitive agencies and data, and he deserves life in prison.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 353d
i'm talking about this
And another one in the same thread
Like that's just making up shit to justify things, similar to how often there's that "why was the black guy out that late, probably selling drugs" shit. Why bother when you can just point to the actual shit this guy has done
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 353d
He's a psycho traitor scumbag, of course he was out doing psycho traitor scumbag stuff. Every moment that he breathes, he's doing something to hurt every person in the country. We have no obligation to treat him like he's a decent person who deserves the benefit of the doubt.
MAGA Nazis fully invent the most heinous lies about good people, speculating about what this traitor was doing is perfectly acceptable.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 352d
I think he is too young to be Luigi'd. He has capacity for reflection, contrition and transformation. But he did need to be checked, no doubt. Chances are this will not wake him up. His future will be in some minimum security prison for embezzlement or fraud or some other white collar crime.
HereIAm@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 353d
Buy don't you see the circumstances of the situation matters? A black man being beat up by police on his way home late one night after buying diapers for his toddler, sounds pretty awful and unjust right? Well turns out it was Clarence Thomas. Cool he got beat, but still makes it an unjust and disgusting crime that needs to be punished. Especially when they thought it was just some random easy target.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 353d
Oh, the criminals should definitely be punished, they don't get a pass, that's MAGA thinking.
But I'm not going to offer any sympathy for this psychpath as a victim. He has killed too many people for me to care about him.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 353d
Ironically, that is pretty much word for word what DJT said about the Central Park 5...
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 353d
That's exactly why I'm bothered about this. And besides, it's not like the person wasn't a shitbag without it, why bother making up extra justification
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 353d
Eh, he victimized millions of people already, lied repeatedly about his story, the cops lied to support him. He isn't the victim, he's the asshole.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 353d
I'll copy here what i wrote above, hopefully that's alright
solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 353d
Alright, that's fair.
For me I think it's more that nothing about the official story makes sense. It seems much more likely he was being a shithead and got punched while shopping. What he was shopping for should be largely irrelevant.
It's similar to other conservative hypocrisies.
thedruid@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 352d
Fuck him. Victim my ass
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · -4 pts · 352d
I don't think you understood my point, friend
thedruid@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
Understood. Don't care.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 352d
Lol
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 352d
No he is 100% a criminal.
Thteven@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 352d
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 353d
wouldn't be surprised if he propositioned the children.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 67 pts · 353d
Why did he take his shirt off before the blood happened? Sure seems like he picked a fight with children and lost.
Denjin@feddit.uk · 34 pts · 353d
Tarps off boys, let's have a donnybrook
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 353d
Do you do CrossFit? You can CrossFuckOff.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 353d
Your aesthetician coiff that for you?
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 353d
As sure as pulling stones and tugging teats is hard work, it sure beats fightin' someone with a treasure trail.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 353d
They weren't muggers. The little shit was chest thumping and got his ass kicked.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 352d
At 3 am, he took his shirt off and said "I will take you MFers, don't you know who I am? BIG BALLS... and then, the WWF simping jerk got his nose punched in.
teamevil@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 353d
this is one of the few cases "God works in mysterious ways" is acceptable
MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 353d
thedruid@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 352d
That's the story.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 353d
IMO The worst consequence is the military is in DC to do the police job now.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 353d
I missed this one. What's this now?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 353d
Armed National Guard from (at minimum) West Virginia, Ohio, and South Carolina are now patrolling the streets of D.C. and residents are protesting.
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 352d
This is why we have the 2nd amendment, right here.
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 352d
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 352d
You forgot about going to Walmart while open carrying 4 pistols and a suppressed riffle
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 352d
I think it is not allowed to have handguns in DC... legally.
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 352d
Welp. Hope they like their foot soldiers on every corner.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 352d
I just heard that Missis fing ippi is sending their National Guard to DC. Like they don't have their own problems.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 352d
Allegedly.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 8 pts · 353d
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 113 pts · 353d
Hey, I know 2 15 year olds that should be nominated for the Nobel peace prize
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 353d
Definitely contributed far more to society than a certain sausage.
Lucelu2@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 352d
At least the Luigi Award.
percent@infosec.pub · 87 pts · 354d
This is probably a dumb question, but I'm always out of the loop: What exactly did this guy (or kid? He looks like he could be in his teens) do to piss everyone off?
I try not to ask questions that could easily be Googled, but I'd rather not search for "big balls."
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 128 pts · 353d
He took all of our personal data and gave it to plantir so they can destroy our democracy and terrorize brown people. He was probably out soliciting underage girls for prostitution when he got knocked out. On a karma scale he deserves to get knocked out every day for the rest of his life.
anus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 348d
I'm no big balls sympathizer but this is a terrible summary of what he did and didn't do wrong
Cenotaph@mander.xyz · 119 pts · 353d
He was one of the college-aged kids that Elon Musk brought in to DOGE to gut the american government. It was found out he goes by "Big Balls"
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 353d
One of those "DODGE" under qualified losers.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 354d
Context? I have no idea who this is
Chozo@fedia.io · 148 pts · 354d
That's "Big Balls", one of the teenage DOGE fascists, seen here after getting his shit kicked in by literal children.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 354d
officermike@lemmy.world · 79 pts · 354d
Teenager with a dumb nickname who Elon picked up as a DOGE guy. I think he was the one who resigned after the Internet found social posts in his history that were pretty racist or something. He got rehired right after he resigned.
miss_demeanour@piefed.ca · 66 pts · 354d
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 45 pts · 354d
Excuse. Not reason.
miss_demeanour@piefed.ca · 17 pts · 354d
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 354d
And while it has lots of blood on it, it doesn't look too seriously injured.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 354d
Doge shithead that got some sliver of what it deserved.
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 64 pts · 354d
Wakarimasen@pawb.social · -190 pts · 353d
The tolerant left. Btw he was attacked for stopping a carjacking
owsei@programming.dev · 93 pts · 353d
Why would you tolerate a fascist?
StocktonCrushed@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 353d
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 60 pts · 353d
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 5 pts · 352d
What is this?
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 5 pts · 352d
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 4 pts · 352d
Wowww. That's actually a ton.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 352d
What is attitude a measure of?
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 3 pts · 352d
Waffle@infosec.pub · 50 pts · 353d
Tolerant? I'm fucking intolerant of the current government and little shits like this being put into a position to either be totally worthless or do serious damage to this country.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 46 pts · 353d
Nobody is obligated to tolerate evil, and MAGA is the most evil political system on the earth today. All MAGA Nazis are Traitors, pedophiles, racists, corrupt, rapists, and more, and should be resisted at every opportunity.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 353d
Who’s tolerant? Fuck fascism.
SirActionSack@aussie.zone · 33 pts · 353d
Sometimes shitty things happen to shitty people :-)
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 353d
It should happen more often.
trk@aussie.zone · 29 pts · 353d
Source?
I am also not googling for big balls.
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
Thats fhe story fox news is shilling. So definitely not the real story.
radiouser@crazypeople.online · 28 pts · 352d
Rakonat@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 353d
Is that his story or is there actually witnesses to his claim that aren't teenage prostitutes that beat the shit out of him?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 353d
Who cares? The MAGA Nazis would just make up the worst story possible, like the attack on Paul Pelosi, then just spread it as truth, and happily believe it.
So we can invent the truth, too. MAGA Morons always forget that two can play this game.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 353d
I'll tolerate you sucking my Big Balls. Then you may fuck off. Quietly.
al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com · 15 pts · 353d
Big balls a hero (x) doubt
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 353d
According to?
MrSmith@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
By replying specifically to that comment you actually agreed that it was "what he deserved".
Weird.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
I would not believe a single word he, or Drumpfs police say about the matter. Most likely, he was hitting on the 15 year old girl that beat him up, which would be typical for anyone GOP.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 354d
Damn is this Musk's guy? He got fucked up, I hadn't seen this yet
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 354d
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 353d
Yeah, gave me warm fuzzies when I found out
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 353d
Always nice to see a little karma play out.
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 352d
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 353d
100% hilarious
ReputedlyDeplorable@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 354d
Was there a description of his injuries? It just looks like his nose got hit pretty hard (possibly broken?) and that’s it.
mateofeo85@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 354d
philophilsaurus@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 354d
Well it definitely makes for an easy target.
knight_alva@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 353d
Not how that works but it’s funny.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 353d
he could be hooked on torsion. that's a thing, right?
OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 353d
I like to imagine that This song was playing when he was catching them fists.
…with his face.
jaek@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 353d
Great song, I'd just been listening when pic related popped up in my Lemmy feed a few months back
finitebanjo@piefed.world · 2 pts · 352d
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
New name is EB. Empty Ballsack.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -47 pts · 353d
Yeah, he is an arshole. But still I think its wrong to upload a photo of him beaten up, to make fun of him.
Dont let urself drag down and keep trying to be nice - to everyone.
Edit: "Nice" is probably the wrong word. Better just respect everyones dignity.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 353d
The time for being nice is long past. These fuckers aren't just not "nice". They're murderous scum that enjoy making people suffer. Time for some pushback.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -6 pts · 353d
I understand your rage. But if you let yourself dragging down, you wont be much different.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 353d
So you think that is a fight that can be won by moral superiority?
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -3 pts · 352d
If you win a fight by losing all moral standards, I wouldnt call it a "win"
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
Mmm. cept this ain't exactly losing "all moral standards", just your moral standards, which the vast majority of people never held in the first place. Why are you obsessed with the idea that your way is the morally correct way? Where does that come from?
Actionschnils@feddit.org · 1 pts · 351d
Im not obsessed that im correct. I think that uploading a picture of a teenager that is laying in his own bload (probably unconscious) after he got beaten up is wrong. Especially if its inteded to mock him. Now I am discussing this matter on lemmy. Who is wrong or right will be presumably never known.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 353d
Oh fuck off with this, this POS is responsible for untold (because he helped destroy the evidence) damage to this country - the cuts he smugly helped make have resulted in actual deaths. If anyone deserved this it's this guy. Reap what you show and all that.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 353d
He deserves a lot worse.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -13 pts · 353d
If someone, who suffers under his actions, beats him up - totally understandable. And that people who are suffering are applauding. Sure, human nature. But still: Nobody deserves to be undignifyied.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 353d
Careful now, if your head gets any bigger you'll risk getting all top heavy and falling off your high horse, and that would be undignified!
Seriously, why is celebrating people standing up to a truly abhorrent actor somehow problematic for you? Even the most thoughtless argument in it's favor, that "fascists might be dissuaded by seeing there are actual consequences for their actions", is preeeetty goddamn valid. I think you might want to unpack why you're more eager to defend the "dIgNiTy" of a fascist POS than celebrate the introduction of positive reinforcement in said fascist's life. Is it really important to you that this shitstain's honor be defended? You don't think the fascists don't have apologists enough already, you just have to throw your support in with their cause?
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -5 pts · 352d
I felt several times and will certainly fall in the future. Thats human nature. But this wont keep me from believing in universial human rights
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 352d
Just glossing over the whole "fall off your high horse" thing: Man it kinda feels like there's a lot you should be unpacking here.
For example, conflating fascist apologia as a facet of a desire for universal human rights is some worryingly impressive mental gymnastics. Are you sure the negative reaction your opinion has received isn't driving you to entrench yourself so deep into your philosophical position that you're losing sight of the values you held initially? That's a trap I see well meaning people fall into not infrequently, when they misjudge the depth of feeling other people hold for an issue, or present a petition for peace & love without realizing how smugly condescending it might come across. Seriously, why're you behaving like this?
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -1 pts · 352d
No, there are no metal gymnastics needed. There are some basics rights that should always be respected. Even if your fighting the big-time-nazi-scum-arseholes.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 351d
Wait, calling them mean names is depriving them of their dignity! How dare you! Don't you know those fascists have feelings???
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 30 pts · 353d
Ah, the Michelle Obama Doctrine - When they go low, we go high. It worked so well, it allowed the Nazis to revive and regain power.
We are not obligated to be nice to evil.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -10 pts · 353d
Probably nice is not the correct word. More like respecting peoples dignity.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 353d
Those who refuse to respect the dignity of others, should not expect to have their dignity respected in return.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -2 pts · 352d
In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 352d
He named himself "big balls."
He abandoned dignity long ago.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -2 pts · 352d
If every teenager who gives himself shity names is losing his dignity, there wont be much dignity left in the world to fight for Edit: And before you understand this wrong. Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back. But still, as I said in another comentary: In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 351d
As long as no one treats him with disrespect. Can't have that.
He's not starving in Gaza. He can still use the restroom that matches his gender. He's not being kidnapped and held in a concentration camp in a swamp or El Salvador. He has healthcare. Oh noes, he talked shit and got hit and people are mocking him on the internet. Call Geneva! His precious fashy rights have ALL been taken away from him!
Actionschnils@feddit.org · 1 pts · 351d
You can fight somebody with respect and without losing your morale standards.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d
You may respect him.
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 353d
Fuck that. Why be kind someone actively helping the country march towards facism?
Mpatch@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 353d
Go fuck your hat. This attitude is the exact reason you all got this shit stain of a situation to deal with in the first place.
I might not be a wise schoolar. But I sure as hell know how to un fuck a fuck. And talking about it and being nice to a fuck is not the way to get it fixed.
Source. 18years of professional un fucking fucks.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 352d
Never heard this one before.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -2 pts · 353d
I did fix alot of things in my life by beeing nice or at least respecting peoples dignity.
Revenge or undignifiying someone was never helpfull.
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 353d
Good on you.
That said, fuck this guy and I'm glad he got his ass kicked.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -5 pts · 352d
I dont judge you for beeing happy about the attack. I am judging a uploaded photo of a person laying on the floor, probably unconscious, in his own blood, with the intent of making fun of him
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 352d
I'm not happy per se, I'd rather this guy not be interested in stealing people's personal data for quiet resale to private corporations.
I'm glad he's faced consequences, as we all should expect if we do wrong by society.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 353d
There is likely no point in trying to be nice to such a person. His mindset probably sees being nice as a weakness to exploit. Ofcourse you might argue that making fun of him being beaten should be above a person who is not as simple as him, that I might agree with. But not doing this for the sake of being nice to him? Nah.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -7 pts · 353d
I probabaly used the wrong word. Respecting his dignity is probabaly better I asume
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 352d
I don't think so either. I mean why would I spend my energy to do anything positive for a person who seems completely fine with destroying thousands of people's livelihoods all the while keeping a cocky attitude about it. The nickname that seems to be the product of a college level fraternity brain is just the icing on the top but very much helps me form this opinion too. The most I will ever do is stay neutral.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -3 pts · 352d
Staying neutral is totally fine, imho.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 352d
"Neutrality" just means "we don't care whose teeth the gold is from."
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
neutrality as in if something bad were to happen to this particular person, I wouldn't have any qualms about disregarding it.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -2 pts · 352d
Neutrality in case of your personal behavior to a person. I dont mean to not fight fascism or taking advantage of fascist.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 352d
But you'll sure leap to their defense...
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 351d
You're gonna be so upset when you hear what they did to Mussolini.
rowdy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 352d
It’s always the paradox of tolerance with you goobers. Feel free to lay down and let facsists walk over you, but don’t you dare get in my way when I’m fighting back.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -2 pts · 352d
Its not about not fighting back. Its about the way you fight back
rowdy@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 352d
Just in case you weren’t aware, you’re not enlightened, you’re naive. You’ll be asking politely for fascism to stop as it tears down everything around you. And the worst part? You’ll look around at the chaos and go “at least I stuck to my morals”. Maybe you have nothing worth fighting for - I do. And I’ll fight in anyway that gains me ground, while you grovel for validation that you were a good little Samaritan.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · 1 pts · 351d
Again, its not about fighting. Its about how you fight and what is necessary or just revenge
Psionicsickness@reddthat.com · -3 pts · 352d
Quite the keyboard warrior you are. As far as I can tell, there’s only been one Luigi, and even with him going first Americans are still too cowed to fight, INCLUDING you.
rowdy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 352d
If you say so :) what are you typing on again?
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 353d
Because I have zero context, I am appalled at your thirty downvotes. But please reply with a news link or context so I might understand what is happening here.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
Compare the sympathy this smarmy little nazi pissweasel gets on lemmy to the abuse leveled at genocide opponents for the entire year of 2024.
This is absolute peak centrism.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · -1 pts · 352d
Ok, I think I dont understand your message completly. The sympathy he gets compared to the sympathy for the opponents of the genocide (gaza I assume?) On lemmy
He got none, they got some and rapidly increasingly more? Or whats your point there?
And how is this centristic?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
He got yours
Yeah, lemmy's centrists have to pretend they don't love genocide for its own sake now that trump is president.
Actionschnils@feddit.org · 0 pts · 351d
I dont know how you define "sympathy*, but no, i have no sympathy for him
porksnort@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 353d
sticks and stones, I guess
Notyou@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 353d
Hah