"Let's put it this way: I knew the president very well," Cuomo said. "I believe there's a big piece of him that actually wants redemption in New York. He feels that he was rejected by New York. We voted for Hillary Clinton. Bill de Blasio took his name off things. So I believe there will be opportunities to actually cooperate with him. I also believe that he's not going to want to fight with me in New York if he can avoid it."
Pretty much just handed Mamdani the election...
All he has to do is run that sound bite in the week or two running up to the election.
New Yorkers don't want someone that will work with trump. They want someone who will fight for them against trump.
"Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani... and you'll be wasting your vote on Sliwa. So I feel good about that," Cuomo said in a leaked recording.
Liberals are in bed with MAGA. Just different kool-aid flavors.
Liberals are not socialists. If people vote for a socialist that means they're not voting for a liberal like Cuomo. Actually Mamdani is a "democratic socialist" and some socialists would distinguish that from socialism proper. But his policies are definitely working for the people, which is great to see. Liberals generally work for corporations before the people.
If you search the web for "Mamdani socialist" you find various flavors of right-wingers and evangelicals in full panic about how he'll end the world. If you look at his own website you find he proposes affordable buses, rent and childcare, and taxing corporations. Apocalyptic stuff.
Honestly, the term liberal, socialist, neo-liberal, etc. are such loaded terms and change constantly. They also are defined on who is hating on me at that moment. I don't have a term I call myself, but I like Bernie's ideas 99% of the time.
The european VOLT party for that exact reason has done away with these labels for themselfs and their ideas. One word means something different to so many people, despite the ideas being the things you should vote for and not some lable throwing
this NY election is the staging grounds for the next presidential election.
Will there be election interference? national guard show up during the mayoral election day, hitting locations where Zohran is polling well? would the government declare the vote fraudulent and appoint whoever they want? Will the government just arrest/deport/disappear the leading candidate and fabricate a smear campaign?
keep an eye open and if anyone can, they should resist
And remember all of this, don't ever let the media make you forget how hard all power in the US fights against leftist values. Both sides do not want leftists to change things.
Cuomo is such an embarrassment and a liar to boot. He lied and said he didn’t remember talking to Trump, then tells donors he and Trump have a plan. He tells the public he is Trump’s worst nightmare and then tells donors he has a plan to appease Trump.
There's no chance of that happening without some kind of election interference. New Yorkers hate Cuomo. He resigned in disgrace because he's a sexual predator and because he spent COVID killing everyone's grandparents and lying about it. By the time he resigned in disgrace, he was a full mask-off villain.
He's a nepo-baby politician that got to play King of New York for a very short time because of his daddy's connections. Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. He's only doing this at all because, even though he resigned in disgrace, he thinks he's owed a shot at the White House, and mayor of New York is a first step back into the field.
I genuinely believe Alan Chartok would have a better shot at being mayor at this point.
Trump was found liable for rape, was responsible for fumbling America's response to COVID killing a lot more than just people's grandparents, and incited a violent insurrection against the Nation's capitol and despite all that America handed him back the keys to the Whitehouse.
The majority of Americans seem to have short memories. Hopefully New Yorkers are better than that.
no you see it's different this time because Mamdani's the dem candidate and Cuomo the independent... Pay no attention to how dnc leadership or party leaders refuse to get involved in helping the dem candidate
It's a winning strategy if they can pull it off. Spoil the democrats' vote by organizing the republicans who know they are bound to lose to vote for cuomo. and once again the only thing on decency's side is decency itself because this coordination is perfectly lawful, and mamdani can basically only appeal to the honor of cheaters or the passion of an apathetic public to do anything about this.
What I'm not seeing is any explanation for why the DNC, an independent and definitely-not-captured opposition party, is accepting help from president Donald "not only is the emperor not wearing any clothes but i'm pretty sure I can make out decades-old dried blood and jism on his thighs" Trump. Unless of course cuomo has taken that extraordinary step for himself, which of course leads to the question of why the DNC, an independent and definitely-not-captured opposition party, would tolerate such a brazen display of broken faith and seekingfinding comfort from their supposed opponents. it's because cuomo isn't running as a democrat this time.
Cuomo is running against the Democratic nominee, not the DNC. I haven't seen the DNC has step up to back Mamdani, and it's pretty clear that DNC leadership backs Cuomo.
The closest I've seen is an interview With Tim Miller of The Bulwark and Jeffries. In that interview he presses him on that, where's the endorsement? All he could bring himself to answer with was 'I can tell you, the only person I have scheduled meetings with are with Mamdani', so actually I'd say it's pretty clear that DNC leadership isn't backing Cuomo but also not doing much for Mamdani either, which is bad and absurd but not as bad actually as backing someone other than who the people chose in the primary.
You can't simply take the lack of vocal support in this intermediate time in between as clear evidence that they back Cuomo, reality is far more nuanced. Your take could have more ground to stand on as we get closer to the actual election without anything different happening though.
Oh look, the Democrats just unendorsed the progressive Democratic candidate for mayor in Minneapolis based on some procedural technicality. It's almost like there is a pattern.
That's why they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore. When someone pulls the same shit over and over again and always has an excuse, the excuses stop working.
The DNC doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. No endorsement and no support from Democratic leaders is active opposition to his run. They burned up all their second chances years ago. Anyone paying attention knows who they are.
lol didn't he say in the debate that the thing about him was that he was the only one who could stand up to the orange guy? these cuomos are really the slimiest, most disgustingly unprincipled people... i never understand people who have literally zero shame.
63 Comments
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 179 pts · 352d
Pretty much just handed Mamdani the election...
All he has to do is run that sound bite in the week or two running up to the election.
New Yorkers don't want someone that will work with trump. They want someone who will fight for them against trump.
fluxion@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 352d
Cuomo can suck my dick
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 352d
He'll do it without asking consent, first.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 352d
Jokes on him. I grant blanket consent to anyone who will suck my dick.
regedit@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 351d
Game on!
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 352d
Don't underestimate old ass Democrats. Donate and volunteer man.
meco03211@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 352d
Dems are masters at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
proper@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 352d
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
I want you to honestly think about this before you answer:
What percentage of voters do you think will even hear about this? Not understand, or be swayed by it; but just hear about Cuomo's statement?
If you guessed anything above 5%, you are delusionally optimistic. Even that is a very high estimate.
mcv@lemmy.zip · 91 pts · 352d
With his corruption and sexual harassment, joining the Trump camp makes total sense for him.
RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 352d
Shit birds stick together
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 352d
Great shit analogy, Mr Lahey.
RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 352d
@orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com… I am the liquor
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 352d
Sure you are, Mr Lahey. Do you think it's a good idea to drive, Mr Lahey?
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 352d
Liberals are in bed with MAGA. Just different kool-aid flavors.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 352d
Neo-libs are
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d
Libs and neolibs are the same thing in US politics.
People who want to make the rich make concessions are leftists.
PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social · 12 pts · 352d
Is it your impression that Cuomo is a liberal?
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 351d
depends on your definition of liberal
Fades@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 351d
What an absurd and reductive take, have you considered including a drop of nuance with your hyperbole?
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
Are you shilling for corporations, the rich, and in bed with MAGA? No? Then, Stfu, it doesn't apply to you.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -19 pts · 352d
Yes, that's why a socialist was voted in and cuomo was voted out in the primaries. /s
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 43 pts · 352d
Liberals are not socialists. If people vote for a socialist that means they're not voting for a liberal like Cuomo. Actually Mamdani is a "democratic socialist" and some socialists would distinguish that from socialism proper. But his policies are definitely working for the people, which is great to see. Liberals generally work for corporations before the people.
If you search the web for "Mamdani socialist" you find various flavors of right-wingers and evangelicals in full panic about how he'll end the world. If you look at his own website you find he proposes affordable buses, rent and childcare, and taxing corporations. Apocalyptic stuff.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 352d
Honestly, the term liberal, socialist, neo-liberal, etc. are such loaded terms and change constantly. They also are defined on who is hating on me at that moment. I don't have a term I call myself, but I like Bernie's ideas 99% of the time.
dacreator@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 352d
Honestly? They may change constantly for you, which is why you seem confused by them.
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 351d
Those terms have clear, defined meanings and they only change because Americans have no idea what they're talking about
Bernie is a social democrat, or maybe a democratic socialist, depending on the day
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 351d
The term socialist definitely hasn't changed recently
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 351d
The european VOLT party for that exact reason has done away with these labels for themselfs and their ideas. One word means something different to so many people, despite the ideas being the things you should vote for and not some lable throwing
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 352d
Progressive is probably what you are looking for.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 352d
Mamdami won the primary...
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 352d
I know, we're agreeing.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 352d
For some reason people need to feel like the world is against them. Im convinced they make up 50+% of the hate they claim is against them.
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 352d
Wtf are you on about?
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -13 pts · 352d
You guys are off schedule though, what's up?
slopsis@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 352d
FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d
What a fail. Lol
Theprogressivist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
I asked what you're on about, and you think I'm trolling?
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 352d
this NY election is the staging grounds for the next presidential election.
Will there be election interference? national guard show up during the mayoral election day, hitting locations where Zohran is polling well? would the government declare the vote fraudulent and appoint whoever they want? Will the government just arrest/deport/disappear the leading candidate and fabricate a smear campaign?
keep an eye open and if anyone can, they should resist
Yeller_king@reddthat.com · 19 pts · 351d
I think they'll let Mamdani win and then endlessly fuck with NYC and blame him for it.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 351d
socialism always fails... thanks to US interference.
Septimaeus@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 351d
Real talk? New Yorkers kinda fuck with that.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 351d
And remember all of this, don't ever let the media make you forget how hard all power in the US fights against leftist values. Both sides do not want leftists to change things.
SulaymanF@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 351d
Cuomo is such an embarrassment and a liar to boot. He lied and said he didn’t remember talking to Trump, then tells donors he and Trump have a plan. He tells the public he is Trump’s worst nightmare and then tells donors he has a plan to appease Trump.
SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 351d
Sound like a real piece of shit. No integrity
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 352d
If NY elects Cuomo, one of America's most powerful blue states will be in Trump's pocket.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 351d
There's no chance of that happening without some kind of election interference. New Yorkers hate Cuomo. He resigned in disgrace because he's a sexual predator and because he spent COVID killing everyone's grandparents and lying about it. By the time he resigned in disgrace, he was a full mask-off villain.
He's a nepo-baby politician that got to play King of New York for a very short time because of his daddy's connections. Born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. He's only doing this at all because, even though he resigned in disgrace, he thinks he's owed a shot at the White House, and mayor of New York is a first step back into the field.
I genuinely believe Alan Chartok would have a better shot at being mayor at this point.
BigBenis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 351d
Trump was found liable for rape, was responsible for fumbling America's response to COVID killing a lot more than just people's grandparents, and incited a violent insurrection against the Nation's capitol and despite all that America handed him back the keys to the Whitehouse.
The majority of Americans seem to have short memories. Hopefully New Yorkers are better than that.
tonytins@pawb.social · 40 pts · 352d
He's doing a great job sinking whatever is left of his reputation.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 36 pts · 352d
Holy fuck, Cuomo just won't give up. The voters have spoken very clearly, and they said "you fucking lost."
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 352d
Do tell us about that, known sex pest Andrew Cuomo
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 351d
Damn maybe both sides were the same after all
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 351d
no you see it's different this time because Mamdani's the dem candidate and Cuomo the independent... Pay no attention to how dnc leadership or party leaders refuse to get involved in helping the dem candidate
18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 351d
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/NY-Touch-prank-results-in-Corning-Tower-16098726.php
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 351d
Vote NYC!
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 7 pts · 351d
It's a winning strategy if they can pull it off. Spoil the democrats' vote by organizing the republicans who know they are bound to lose to vote for cuomo. and once again the only thing on decency's side is decency itself because this coordination is perfectly lawful, and mamdani can basically only appeal to the honor of cheaters or the passion of an apathetic public to do anything about this.
What I'm not seeing is any explanation for why the DNC, an independent and definitely-not-captured opposition party, is accepting help from president Donald "not only is the emperor not wearing any clothes but i'm pretty sure I can make out decades-old dried blood and jism on his thighs" Trump. Unless of course cuomo has taken that extraordinary step for himself, which of course leads to the question of why the DNC, an independent and definitely-not-captured opposition party, would tolerate such a brazen display of broken faith andit's because cuomo isn't running as a democrat this time.seekingfinding comfort from their supposed opponents.RustyEarthfire@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 351d
Cuomo is running as an independent. He is running against the DNC.
Tinidril@midwest.social · 8 pts · 351d
Cuomo is running against the Democratic nominee, not the DNC. I haven't seen the DNC has step up to back Mamdani, and it's pretty clear that DNC leadership backs Cuomo.
Fades@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 351d
The closest I've seen is an interview With Tim Miller of The Bulwark and Jeffries. In that interview he presses him on that, where's the endorsement? All he could bring himself to answer with was 'I can tell you, the only person I have scheduled meetings with are with Mamdani', so actually I'd say it's pretty clear that DNC leadership isn't backing Cuomo but also not doing much for Mamdani either, which is bad and absurd but not as bad actually as backing someone other than who the people chose in the primary.
You can't simply take the lack of vocal support in this intermediate time in between as clear evidence that they back Cuomo, reality is far more nuanced. Your take could have more ground to stand on as we get closer to the actual election without anything different happening though.
interview link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_szbshrgQHg
Tinidril@midwest.social · 1 pts · 349d
Oh look, the Democrats just unendorsed the progressive Democratic candidate for mayor in Minneapolis based on some procedural technicality. It's almost like there is a pattern.
That's why they don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore. When someone pulls the same shit over and over again and always has an excuse, the excuses stop working.
Tinidril@midwest.social · 0 pts · 351d
The DNC doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. No endorsement and no support from Democratic leaders is active opposition to his run. They burned up all their second chances years ago. Anyone paying attention knows who they are.
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 2 pts · 351d
I'll be goddamned, you're right. Not a single thing on his campaign website about DNC.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 351d
Well, he was supposed to win the DNC primary, that's what the DNC wanted.
Cuomo represents the will of the DNC
pyre@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 351d
lol didn't he say in the debate that the thing about him was that he was the only one who could stand up to the orange guy? these cuomos are really the slimiest, most disgustingly unprincipled people... i never understand people who have literally zero shame.
Fourth@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 352d
Pounce pounce pounce
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 352d
He's a kitty cat