Very true, but I believe those to be very rare - with quick online search I could not easily find any information about Judaistic or Islamic Satan worshippers
That could be simply because I'm limited to English speaking parts of internet though, and those parts are overwhelmingly atheistic or christian
Not really. The satanic aesthetic is more decoration and vibes for ritualized atheism.
There are multiple schools of Satanic worship but they all are pretty explicit in divorcing themselves from Christian lore and dogma. It's not just "choosing the other side", it's an actually separate religion. There's a political side too, but that's even more optional.
No they still get called that because Christians call lots of things Satanic. To Satanists that's part of the game. They're reveling in the pearl clutching that claiming to literally worship Satan causes. The actual focus of their worship is more a philosophical ideal of the self and spiritual independence.
The new Satanic Temple reveres a wider pantheon of pagan dieties that the Christians all called Satan but had their own individual cults. It's more of a safe place for them to practice their own faiths while in community with eachother.
I think the reason for this is that Nazis like to infiltrate edgy groups and turn them into Nazis I think edgy teenagers are an easy target to turn into Nazis. After all what is edgier than being a Nazi?
This was explicitly done by joy of Satan ministries on their website they had a "teens for satan" section
Sweet, now I can make sure to only listen the prue white kind of black metal! /sarcasm
I checked my bands I listen occasionally, and the worst one was orange. (Kanonenfiber) Which is the only band I ever raised the question that it is okey to listen. It was shocking when I went into a concert (for a different band), and steped into the hall: The band was masked in full WWI uniforms and and the singer just raised his hand 😅. I was stunned. I pretty much enjoy their music, and later checked their background.
But, I don't see why we can't enjoy any type of medium which is created by shitty ppl. Aside from supporting and associating with ppl who share their shitty views ofc. At least this list is not black&white.
I agree that far right is mostly christian, but if I see a shirt with a sunwheel and totenkopf like that, I'm expecting a (National Socialist) Black Metal fan (therefore a big chance of being satanist)
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unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 80 pts · 357d
Why supremacists are usually christian so shouldnt it be "god told me"?
BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 357d
This feels like the guy is being more honest with himself and his love of the antichrist.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 357d
Satan worshippers are still Christians, even if heretic ones
AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -3 pts · 357d
That is not correct.I thought you were referring to satanists as Satan worshipers and just using the term incorrectly, my mistake.
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 357d
Christians are the only ones that believe in Satan.
No, satanists do not believe in Satan.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 357d
Islam and Judaism believe in the same old testament so there's two other possibilities.
acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 357d
Christians and Muslims are just jews 2.0 and 2.5.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 357d
Very true, but I believe those to be very rare - with quick online search I could not easily find any information about Judaistic or Islamic Satan worshippers
That could be simply because I'm limited to English speaking parts of internet though, and those parts are overwhelmingly atheistic or christian
sad_detective_man@leminal.space · -6 pts · 357d
Not really. The satanic aesthetic is more decoration and vibes for ritualized atheism.
There are multiple schools of Satanic worship but they all are pretty explicit in divorcing themselves from Christian lore and dogma. It's not just "choosing the other side", it's an actually separate religion. There's a political side too, but that's even more optional.
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 357d
You're mixing up satanists and Satan worshippers. Satanists are indeed atheists taking a piss on christians
sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 7 pts · 357d
My mistake. Sometimes I wish they chose more distinct names
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 357d
It's provocative, it gets the people going
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
Then they wouldn't be called "Satan worshippers" now, would they?
sad_detective_man@leminal.space · 6 pts · 357d
No they still get called that because Christians call lots of things Satanic. To Satanists that's part of the game. They're reveling in the pearl clutching that claiming to literally worship Satan causes. The actual focus of their worship is more a philosophical ideal of the self and spiritual independence.
The new Satanic Temple reveres a wider pantheon of pagan dieties that the Christians all called Satan but had their own individual cults. It's more of a safe place for them to practice their own faiths while in community with eachother.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
I understood and understand your point, I just don't think any satanist actually calls themself a satan worshipper other than maybe in jest.
yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 357d
There are unfortunately a number of satanist neo-nazi groups such as:
Order of the nine angles
Temple of Zeus (aka joy of satan ministries)
Turku society for the spiritual sciences
I think the reason for this is that Nazis like to infiltrate edgy groups and turn them into Nazis I think edgy teenagers are an easy target to turn into Nazis. After all what is edgier than being a Nazi?
This was explicitly done by joy of Satan ministries on their website they had a "teens for satan" section
https://www.joyofsatan.org/Kids.html
There is also an association between black metal and Nazis which is also associated with satanism
Check on the edgy teenagers In your life to try to make sure they don't fall into this trap.
StarMerchant938@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 357d
yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 356d
Sorry that was not my intention I don't think most satanists are Nazis and I am a fan of black metal myself.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 356d
https://astralnoizeuk.com/2022/01/31/curating-resistance-the-ultimate-list-of-anti-fascist-bands/
menjoo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 356d
I really enjoyed finding this: Luke’s black metal sketch book
AnAbsurdlyAgitatedAnaconda@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 356d
Sweet, now I can make sure to only listen the prue white kind of black metal! /sarcasm
I checked my bands I listen occasionally, and the worst one was orange. (Kanonenfiber) Which is the only band I ever raised the question that it is okey to listen. It was shocking when I went into a concert (for a different band), and steped into the hall: The band was masked in full WWI uniforms and and the singer just raised his hand 😅. I was stunned. I pretty much enjoy their music, and later checked their background.
But, I don't see why we can't enjoy any type of medium which is created by shitty ppl. Aside from supporting and associating with ppl who share their shitty views ofc. At least this list is not black&white.
Thanks for sharing! <3
original_charles@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 357d
I believe this is referring to specific extremely deplorable organizations such as 764
MASSIVE trigger warning as these groups commit the worst acts of depravity and cruelty that humans are capable of.
frog@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 357d
Thanks for the info. I began reading through it.
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Wikipedia: CVLT
What a stupid shit. Imagine a brown immigrant that believes in white pride and fascism.
Cocopanda@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 357d
Now hear me out. What if their god is actually Satan?
tatann@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 357d
I agree that far right is mostly christian, but if I see a shirt with a sunwheel and totenkopf like that, I'm expecting a (National Socialist) Black Metal fan (therefore a big chance of being satanist)
Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 357d
Where's the maga hat?
ICastFist@programming.dev · 10 pts · 357d
Next to their NFT collection
python@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 357d
Oh, that's a lot of Cyberpunk mods
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 356d
The Breaking Bad meme where Walter, from the back of the car, shouts: “Hank! Hank! Don’t abbreviate CyperPunk! Hank!”
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 357d
Average 4channer.
devolution@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d
No fedora. Fail.
LebensmittelReborn@piefed.social · 1 pts · 357d