Free speech advocates are sounding the alarm about a bill in the US House of Representatives that they fear could allow Secretary of State Marco Rubio to strip US citizens of their passports based purely on political speech.
The bill, introduced by Rep. Brian Mast (R-Fla.), will come up for a hearing on Wednesday.
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RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 115 pts · 355d
Um, this literally goes entirely against 1st Amendment. That's literally all about free speech. To be able to comment or criticize politicians and politics without government retaliating. And now they want to do that exactly. These fuckers straight want a dictatorship.
hector@lemmy.today · 50 pts · 355d
The courts have been cancelled so do not expect them to defend the constitution. Even if they do they will allow loopholes to allow it anyway, as preposterous as their reasoning will be.
It is clear they are idealogues on the courts, but also that they are compromised by the admin, career ending dirt on them. Just like the borgia pope appointing compromised cardinals, and compromising existing ones with prostitutes.
Earning himself the nickname of the whoremaster of rome. Borgia pope is early 16th century, that machavelli's the prince was based on.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 41 pts · 355d
It's literally Congress making a law that penalizes free speech. I genuinely can't believe we're here.
rayyy@piefed.social · 23 pts · 355d
Remember when republicans carried around those vest pocket copies of the constitution - they were keeping them handy to use to wipe their asses.
AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 355d
They'll label you a terrorist first
givedaddywhisky@lemmy.world · 88 pts · 355d
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 55 pts · 355d
It was the same back then. Years ago, a Vietnam Vet Draftee told me that he never understood why he was fighting in Vietnam, until he had to run an errand back to the port where supplies were coming in. He saw them unloading entire cargo ships of Budweiser beer, and he instantly understood why the war was dragging on - it was good for business.
peopleproblems@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 355d
I watched Superman: Red Son last night. Throughout the entire movie I was wondering what the plot resolution would be.
In it, Stalin is enriching himself while killing millions (just like real life). Superman finds it appalling that Stalin's only response is "it's necessary." In the US, Lex Luthor is doing typical capitalist bullshit just getting rich and getting power.
But LEX LUTHOR ends up doing it all for altruistic reasons because even Superman can't create a perfect society without harming dissenters. At the end, instead of continuing the altruistic steps, he steps down from power for his VP to do it and fucks off to a private island with billionaire stuff.
What I got out of it? Capitalism good, it saves you from gulag and brain control devices. And billionaires will save you.
War is GREAT for business.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 24 pts · 355d
Bayer/Monsanto will be so pleased to service the home front this time.
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 355d
Perhaps we can at least say that your heart was in the right place depending on your personal goals. It’s even possible that your work bought additional time which does matter even though ultimately we had the current collapse.
I don’t think it’s all bad. But it’s definitely a shame that we’re at this point.
ThrowawayInTheYear23@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 355d
Committing war crimes for thugs?
xyzzy@lemmy.today · 70 pts · 355d
Maeve@kbin.earth · 15 pts · 355d
How do you propose confederates not gaining power when their ideas are not only popular but celebrated and worshipped?
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 355d
Their ideas aren't popular, Trump won because the economy sucks the Democratic party sucks and the media sucks. Fix any of those three problems up a bit and they lose.
All easier said than done, but let's define the problem properly. It isn't that people on average are bad and can't handle democracy, it's that our systems are bad and manipulating people into supporting bad things.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 355d
He also rigged the election
Maeve@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 355d
Xenophobia seems pretty popular.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 355d
Eh. Trump was able to make a very specific and tangible case to his voters for how he was going to directly improve their lives. Kamala was completely unwilling to do that. That's why she lost.
Trump's plan was evil, but it was clear and direct. His message was "I will deport a bunch of immigrants and slap up tariffs. This will make it easier for you to get a job and buy a home." It's a cynical, evil, and short-sighted plan, but it was actually a plan to directly improve the living standards of working class Americans.
What was Kamala's equivalent? Nothing. She had some vague language about a tax credit that would just inflate the housing bubble higher, and she took the usual idiot liberal approach of attaching dozens of strings that made it so only select marginalized people would qualify for it. Kamala offered nothing. People were hurting, and she offered them nothing. She didn't lose because of Gaza, no matter what Republican trolls on Lemmy like to say. She lost because she was unable to make a clear and specific case about how she was going to help the people that voted for her. Her only real core message was the defense of democracy, but it turns out that people see little reason to support a democracy that will do nothing to actually advance their interests.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 355d
Kamala failed in every way, imo, except wooing the farther-right. DNC sued to keep Claudia off the ballot in swing states --they knew they weren't going to win against her! And now they're suing to keep a Green mayoral candidate off the ballot. Lemmy libs act like South Carolina libs, which is pretty left except they "wisely" want conservative Dems on the ballot to win, and that hasn't worked since Clinton. The only reason Biden won't was because he wasn't the other guy, and failed the lower middle and underclass so badly, "not the other guy" will never win again, for less conservative libs of either party.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 354d
Hate to break it to you, but the green candidate is never winning within the 2-party fptp system. The last chance was Bernie 2020.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 354d
Certainly not with the DNC spending to keep her off the ballot.
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 355d
And why is xenophobia popular? Seems like a problem with the systems still.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 355d
Yes
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 355d
Actually vote
sudo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 355d
Gallows would be a strong start
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 355d
Doesnt this clearly violate the 1st amendment?
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 355d
The Constitution doesn't matter anymore.
cmbabul@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 355d
I see the value in documenting the ways it’s being violated, but every time I hear someone shocked because “they can’t do that” I’m reminded of how we got here. The only law and rule that matters is what is physically possible
onslaught545@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 355d
Exactly. It's only illegal if they enforce it, and they ain't gonna enforce shit.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d
it got a 1 on its saving throw. sorry statesia
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 354d
Fun Fact: Freedom of Speech is "guaranteed" in the Constitution of PRC.
https://english.www.gov.cn/archive/lawsregulations/201911/20/content_WS5ed8856ec6d0b3f0e9499913.html
Guess how that's going.
(I mean you do have freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want, just not freedom after speech)
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 355d
Did you check the website? Maybe they removed it already...
ileftreddit@piefed.social · 44 pts · 355d
shiroininja@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 355d
Just like China, well done magats. You are the thing you hate
Red0ctober@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 355d
The thing they claim to hate, while secretly admiring it (or not so secretly)
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 354d
"When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak." -donald trump
didnt even tried to hide it
Steve@startrek.website · 3 pts · 355d
What you interpreted as hate was actually envy.
Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 355d
"Land of the free."
Red0ctober@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 355d
"Terms and conditions may apply."
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 17 pts · 355d
Land of the fee.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 355d
And the home of the slave
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 355d
Under the regime, everyone is free. It's just that some people are more free than others.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 355d
Yeah this just shows you don't have any rights. You have temporary, revocable privileges, depending on the whims of those exercising power.
xenomor@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 355d
These republicans, like Charlie Kirk, wrap themselves in Christianity but are the least Christ-like people on the planet. These same frauds tout their patriotism, and stoke national identity while throwing the founding document and our foundational rights, and the rule of law out the window at every opportunity they find to seize power and profit.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 355d
Most conservatives worship Satan. They're literally devil-worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you are not worshiping a benevolent god, you're worshiping the Devil. Charlie Kirk was a devil worshiper and he's now joined his master, where he will burn in the fires of Hell for all the misery he brought down upon his innocent victims. All billionaires go to Hell. Most Republicans go to Hell. Any "Christian" that preaches hate is bound for the the Pit.
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 355d
Lmao turns out it was never about free speech at all. Just about control and power. Shocked
ileftreddit@piefed.social · 23 pts · 355d
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 355d
"Free speech absolutists", everyone.
I'm sure Musk and other people that were outraged over things like Hunter's hard drive, oops, I mean "laptop" and social media/news outlets will be all over this, right? The people that were parroting mindless talking points about Confederates being "shadow banned" on a private platform.
Right?
mnhs1@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 355d
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 355d
So they want to keep people who say things they don't like IN the country now? I'll never understand the Bizarro world we live in.
Steve@startrek.website · 7 pts · 355d
Another day another treason 🥱
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 355d
Please read H.R. 5300, SEC. 226. NO PASSPORTS FOR TERRORISTS AND TRAFFICKERS
https://midwest.social/post/35310527
PerryM@newsie.social · 2 pts · 355d
@MicroWave Now there's a twist to "free speech"!
dhork@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 355d
It's the Henry Ford model of Free Speech. "You can speak all the speech you like, as long as it's stuff the Government approves"....