They are called valves and not pushing any valves is called "playing open". It just produces the trumpet's harmonic series over its fundamental frequency, kinda like a bugle. Most trumpets are Bb trumpets, so dolphins could theoretically play all notes in that series. That's very hard and requires excellent lip control, of course.
They weigh about 1kg. The force of air is harder to answer as it's less about how hard you blow and more about how loose or tight your lips are around the mouthpiece. But since dolphins can blow water several meters into the air, I'd just assume they can produce more than enough force to make a note.
It would have to be 2. The blowhole is where the dolphin breathes out, and it has the muscles to adjust airflow for embouchure, but I don't know if it can constrict and vibrate at the right frequencies to produce music.
A dolphin's mouth doesn't have any lip control, even if it could breathe out. Which I don't think it can.
If I'm not mistaken, dolphins can't physically breathe through their mouth. Like, their mouth doesn't have a tube that connects to their lungs. So figure 2 is the only way it could work.
Just researched this and apparently there has been at least one recorded case of a dolphin mouth-breathing. It likely only occurs when there’s something seriously wrong with the blowhole, but it can be done!
You are and extremely talented painter in the year 1384, a skill that is extremely expensive and difficult to cultivate. How will you be remembered? Butt blast? Butt blasts!!!!!!!!
Haha how did I never notice that before?? Maybe because the pronunciations are different I guess--the "he" part (pronounced hey) is the fart and the gassen (gahss-en) is like a battle or fight.
Brass instruments require the buzzing of lips in addition to the air in order to work. Since most of the dolphin's air comes out the blowhole, but that has no mechanism to vibrate like lips it's impossible.
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capuccino@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 347d
1, because we do not play trumpet with our noses.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
Dammit I really wanted to well actually to brag about my friend's nose whistle act. SHE IS SO COOL
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 346d
Dolphins aren't mouth-breathers though.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 346d
They seem to move their mouths to speak. That implies they are mouth breathers
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 346d
Speak for yourself
erie09@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 347d
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 346d
Yep, Futurama would never fuck up the science
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 347d
It’s only blowing, not playing as it can’t reach the keys/buttons/whatevertheyrecalleds
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 347d
They are called valves and not pushing any valves is called "playing open". It just produces the trumpet's harmonic series over its fundamental frequency, kinda like a bugle. Most trumpets are Bb trumpets, so dolphins could theoretically play all notes in that series. That's very hard and requires excellent lip control, of course.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 347d
Cool, so it would have to be 1 then?
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 347d
No, needs to be 2. A dolphin's windpipe is not connected to their mouth, so they couldn't push air in 1.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 347d
So assuming the dolphin can keep it balanced, what’s the weight of a trumpet and the force of the air required to make a note?
So many questions that I wasn’t expecting today.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 347d
They weigh about 1kg. The force of air is harder to answer as it's less about how hard you blow and more about how loose or tight your lips are around the mouthpiece. But since dolphins can blow water several meters into the air, I'd just assume they can produce more than enough force to make a note.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 347d
But enough force to lift the trumpet perhaps?
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 347d
They could lean against a cliff or something when playing, no?
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
It would have to be 2. The blowhole is where the dolphin breathes out, and it has the muscles to adjust airflow for embouchure, but I don't know if it can constrict and vibrate at the right frequencies to produce music.
A dolphin's mouth doesn't have any lip control, even if it could breathe out. Which I don't think it can.
otacon239@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
You can still play. Just only a few notes.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 347d
Whereas fish can play scales?
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 346d
This comment with this username chef's kiss
NONE_dc@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 347d
Wouldn't Figure 2 be like a person playing the trumpet with their nose? I'm not saying it's not possible, but...
Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 347d
If I'm not mistaken, dolphins can't physically breathe through their mouth. Like, their mouth doesn't have a tube that connects to their lungs. So figure 2 is the only way it could work.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 347d
Can confirm
mienshao@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 347d
Just researched this and apparently there has been at least one recorded case of a dolphin mouth-breathing. It likely only occurs when there’s something seriously wrong with the blowhole, but it can be done!
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 346d
now i need to see a diagram/x-ray of how it's laid out
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
username checks... eww omg
NONE_dc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 347d
Oh, I didn't know that!
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social · 5 pts · 347d
Jip their blow hole is just their nostrils that moved up to the top of their head over generations.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 13 pts · 346d
First of all, trumpet goes up the butt, it is tradition:
Second of all, we already have 2 at home:
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 346d
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
You are and extremely talented painter in the year 1384, a skill that is extremely expensive and difficult to cultivate. How will you be remembered? Butt blast? Butt blasts!!!!!!!!
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 346d
Well, a talented painter after 1600, but butt blasts indeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He-gassen
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
..... he gassen. Idk 🤷♂️ what's going in 5he world
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 345d
Haha how did I never notice that before?? Maybe because the pronunciations are different I guess--the "he" part (pronounced hey) is the fart and the gassen (gahss-en) is like a battle or fight.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 345d
Idk all I do know is that's a crazy coincidence. This is feudal Japan no way his parents knew. The fart man COMETH.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 346d
Direct butt-to-butt warfare, no trumpets - just like it used to be back in the day.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 346d
Back and forth, forever
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 13 pts · 346d
Here's a carp playing a Western concert flute:
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 347d
Do you play the trumpet with your nose?
BakerBagel@midwest.social · 9 pts · 347d
Dolphins don't have noses, and their tracheas are completely separated from their mouths.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 347d
Superior design.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 347d
Do dolphins get colds? How do they breathe when they have a plug of snot wedged in there?
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 347d
Questions I'm not sure I want to know the answers to.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 346d
Oh I do! For us, having that bypass if our noses are plugged is extremely helpful. Do dolphins have those same problems?
No_Eponym@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 347d
As someone who regularly aspirates, I feel this.
DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 346d
1 humans dont play trumpet from there noses
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
I shoot music out my blowhole.
thenextguy@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 347d
No
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 5 pts · 347d
1, because 2 sounds& looks like this.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
Neither
Brass instruments require the buzzing of lips in addition to the air in order to work. Since most of the dolphin's air comes out the blowhole, but that has no mechanism to vibrate like lips it's impossible.
Twakyr@feddit.org · 5 pts · 346d
I think number 2 would be more effective
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 346d
played trumpet, the air helps but i dunno.. no functional lip interfaces on either orifice... the blow hole still has the most promise.
IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
Twakyr@feddit.org · 3 pts · 346d
Purely internet pseudo knowledge
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 346d
Dolphins would probably prefer the saxophone
Exusia@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
Figure 2. Because its silly and I refuse to need a more elaborate reason in a shitposting sub.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 4 pts · 346d
They might play better with their butthole than these options.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
gonna need a shit valve on that horn
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 346d
Like this, according to some expert in this field:
lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 347d
As so often: the truth is in the middle
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 347d
the forehead?
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 347d
It's all lead to butt tuba.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 347d
Second one but it would be fashioned as a hat or an underwater helmet.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 346d
Teacher do dolphins have embouchres
Pulptastic@midwest.social · 2 pts · 346d
Both.
padraig@caint.ie · 1 pts · 344d
orhtej2@eviltoast.org Yes.
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 347d
kinther@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 345d
Out the blowhole
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 346d
3=1+2 self duet you ever think of that
sirico@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 347d
With their hands and lips, obviously… idiot
Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 345d
krunklom@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 346d
A dolphin would shove the trumpet up its cloaca (I think they have cloaca's) because they're horny monsters.