YSK When you hover over a piece of the phonetic notation on (English) Wikipedia, it shows you an example for its pronunciation

cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/46785145

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sudoku@programming.dev · 72 pts · 341d (8 replies)

g as in gif

ceenote@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 341d

Wrong, it's pronounced "gif"

__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 341d (4 replies)

g as in genuine ginormous gendered giraffes gesticulating gingerly

Empricorn@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 340d (3 replies)

'G' as in "Gary my guy, it's great you have the guts to be wrong again!"

__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 339d (1 reply)

general gibberish

__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 339d

generous genecologically German genies generated gelatinous genitals

__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 339d
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colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 340d

g as in gnome

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 1 pts · 341d

I wish it was gnuf

AtariDump@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Ambiance6195@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 341d

How dare you come here with this blasphemy.

Rhaedas@fedia.io · 24 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Looks like Wikipedia decided to let the users battle it out since they have both listed. Both the right and the wrong way.

My opinion, I always use a hard F.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d

wow, they used to use the hard F on Family guy?

hash@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 341d (6 replies)

FUCK ALL Y'ALL 'JIF' MOTHERFUCKERS

Kinokoloko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 341d (4 replies)

How do you pronounce laser

huquad@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 341d

Hard R

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 341d

jaser

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 5 pts · 341d

CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 341d

There are several arguments for why it should be pronounced a given way and OP didn't say any of them.

I see you just picked your favorite to argue against.

TeddE@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d

They'll bend over in a jiffy.

SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 13 pts · 342d (4 replies)

Pronounced 'chief.'

Drbreen@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 341d (3 replies)

More like Gee-f

edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 341d
entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Okay, so like a GIF Wrangler

Drbreen@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 341d

Like Ask Jeeves but with a ffff

capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 341d (5 replies)

Piss off both sides and just spell it. G.I.F.

Revan343@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 341d

The notorious G I F

scintilla@crust.piefed.social · 5 pts · 341d (2 replies)

I feel like that's a win for hard G honestly.

kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 341d

But the letter "G" has a soft "g" in its pronunciation. Otherwise, you're talking about clarified butter.

workerONE@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d

The letter G is pronounced Jee, with a J sound. Not Gee

Grimy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d

Just say the full name outright: "Graphically Integrated Framework"

mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 341d (1 reply)

GIF

"Gee Eye Eff"

MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d

I got real self righteous there for a second, but i see they included the wrong pronunciation as well

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d (1 reply)

i've forgotten most of my IPA so this is really helpful

JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 341d

Enough IPA and I tend to forget things as well.

rdri@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 341d

I first read that as a hitman image format.

NovaSel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d

Me on mobile: Huh, interesting...

Babalugats@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 341d (1 reply)

Giraffe-ic Interchange Format.

kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 340d

Weird that they don't have the pronunciation listed for giraffe the same way

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giraffe

MadnessForTsar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d

The only thing I know about this is that it's unnecessary to start another "internet war" over how someone pronounced terms like this one, since both pronunciation are recognizable (even my friends often spelled in with different results thanks to their accents and our local language too)

njm1314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d

Are they always wrong though?

everett@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 341d

This also generally works wherever you see a dotted underline.

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d (22 replies)
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monogram@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 341d (11 replies)
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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d (4 replies)

yeah well jayphegg yourself buddy

monogram@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 340d (3 replies)
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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 340d (2 replies)

well okay i guess i'll send the cookout invitation to OOP then

monogram@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 339d (1 reply)
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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d

i mean if you came we could throw a Haskell on the barbie. sorry friend, buddies only at the cookout.

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 341d (5 replies)
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monogram@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 341d (4 replies)
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ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 341d (2 replies)

I pronounce that as gay peg

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 341d (1 reply)

You must make a lot of new friends.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 341d

at the leather store, yes

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 341d
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can@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 341d (9 replies)

Meaning?

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 341d (8 replies)
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GandalftheBlack@feddit.org · 2 pts · 341d (2 replies)

Well that makes no sense. If your view is that "it's an acronym or it isn't" then you pronounce it as individual letters or as a word. But the reality of language is much messier than arbitrary rules people come up with. If people pronounce it as if it's a word in its own right, that means that's how it works. Just as with laws of physics, if what we observe contradicts the rule, the rule was wrong.

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 341d (1 reply)
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CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 341d

choosing to pronounce "gif" with a hard "g" is an arbitrary renunciation of the standards of the language.

Right. That's why people naturally started pronouncing it with a hard 'g' to begin with...

can@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d (3 replies)

What rule? I just go by what I read in the 90s about what the creators thought.

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d (2 replies)
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JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 341d (1 reply)
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__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 341d

Acronyms are abbreviations. Maybe you mean an initialism?

jbrains@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 341d
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tpihkal@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d (3 replies)

Why do they list an incorrect pronunciation?

otp@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 341d (2 replies)

To stop the edit wars.

Also the creator of the format attempted to troll people by saying it's officially pronounced "jiff", and it's taken as truth by the gullible and the people who believe that if you create something, you should be able to control what people call it (even if it defies logic).

tpihkal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 341d

*"Jeff"

Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 340d

I agree that the manner this was presented at the 2013 Webbys, which kickstarted the debate, was jokingly, but the specifications have always recommended "jiff" since the format's inception, though also a bit jokingly:

Wilhite and the team who developed the file format included in the technical specifications that the acronym was to be pronounced with a soft g. In the specifications, the team wrote that "choosy programmers choose ... 'jif'", in homage to the peanut butter company Jif's advertising slogan of "choosy moms choose Jif".[3]

dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 341d

If that’s not divisive in today’s political climate, I don’t know what is.

/s

calisti@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 340d

Anything with a dotted underline is canonically meant to be hovered to show a tooltip.