Eff waiting that long - nothing less frequent than quarterly will do, and preferably monthly. Too many details are likely to be forgotten or skipped in less frequent updates.
ZOG (usually capitalized) is an acronym standing for "zionist occupied government" tied to white supremacist groups that falls into the usual "Jewish cabal runs everything" nonsense.
to add to this, with this context, "the zog powder they sell to you" becomes a blantantly antisemitic conspiracy theory: Jewish people are feeding you crap (in this case, gatorade) to keep you weak
yes it’s ridiculous nonsense, but that’s how dogwhisles work.
Definitely. On top of that, bullshit like this contributes to the muddy waters when you have legitimate critiques of zionism and the government of Israel. But I'm sure the white supremacists know that when they create this bullshit so they can make potential recruits feel like more people agree with their horseshit.
100%, Israel itself is the greatest threat to Jewish people worldwide. The false claims of antisemitism allows actual antisemitism to spread where it would have been stamped out otherwise.
I missed it too, but he did put a fucking ZOG thing there in lower case. ZOG as for (global) Zionist Occupational Government, the crown jewel of antisemitic conspiracies. His whole speech isn't about it, but that little casual slip means he is exposed to such ideas and/or ponders them at his own.
I'm going to be careful here, because I am not an antisemite and I want to continue living my life in such a way that people don't accuse me of being one. However, I have seen more anti Zionist rhetoric in the news since the Gaza genocide, and have always seen anti-Zionism as a distinct thing from antisemitism. Also, I don't think anyone can deny the hold AIPAC has on at least the American government, and clear Israeli influence on other western governments as well. Anyway, my question is does use of the term ZOG necessarily have to be antisemitic?
You'd have a hard time explaining yourself if you're going to use it. It's impossible to decouple decades of dumb conspiracy theories from a word that means just that. Better find another one more specific.
Yes. The term was invented by white power groups and needs to stay relegated to white power groups. Sure, we have our criticisms of Israel's foreign policy, the genocide, the actual antisemitism rife throughout Israel (as Palenstinians are actual Semites and most Israeli Jews are Semites by lineage), etc etc. The criticisms from the people that use the term Zog are that Jews have tails and horns and want to eat babies etc. Our cause is not the same, nor should our vernacular be.
I'm afraid there is no reason to suspect that ingesting higher-than-suggested doses of vitamins and minerals will make your penis larger. Even while passing the kidney stone.
So, I'm sure this is a bad idea. But can anyone tell me exactly why? Years ago, in a desperate situation, a doctor told us to get antibiotics for fish and use them, and we had to do that a few times. Some animal products are identical or nearly identical to human products, some are quite different...
With this in particular, how is it different, and why is it bad?
But basically, the electrolyte balance that's healthy for a horse is quite a lot higher than what is healthy for a human (due to body mass differences, among other things). The magnesium in the horse electrolyte is actually over the lethal dose for a human if taken as written. You could theoretically take it and be fine if you calculate the proper dose yourself, but by that point you're better off just buying human products, I guess.
EDIT: I was thinking of manganese, not magnesium, but that's 1500% of the daily intake, not necessarily lethal dose. Sodium, though, is over the lethal dose.
Chubbyemu's videos are great, but sometimes the story seems a little over the top. Then I remember how many people live in this country/on earth and realize those situations must be happening all the time.
Just to add to this, on human stuff, they have an incentive to not be sued out of existence for a single fuckup In horse medicine, it's kind of like "Eh, a stiff breeze could have killed that horse!"
That bucket of stuff is probably th same ingredients, but sourced from who knows where cheapest biddder, mixed together by eyeballing it for 30 years on equipment that's probably barely maintained.
I remember reading up on New Life Spectrum fish food a while ago and they were making the pellets on a salvaged pasta press. No tests for lead or any other contaminants because no one gives a shit about the mental health of ornamental fish. I'm sure it's slightly more rigorous for horses, but I doubt the sanitation, quality controls, and batch monitoring are up to human grade snuff.
All joking aside, if you start having pencil-thin poop all the time (or even just frequenly), that can be a sign of colon cancer and you really need to go see a doctor.
I don't know about this product specifically, but in general, animal food products are not regulated as much as food for people. This means it may not be as safe.
And almost no other countries are victims of regulatory capture to the degree that the US is.
That seems hard to believe, considering stuff like the "banana republic" thing - surely, the country that gets couped for the purpose of economic exploitation by a foreign power is captured more thoroughly than a country that had at least somewhat democratic institutions?
You'd think so, but guess what country the corporations couping with impunity is almost invariably from?
Past the propaganda, the institutions of the US aren't actually that democratic. They've mostly been designed by and for the rich and powerful from the beginning but especially since the rise of Neoliberalism in the late 70s.
Before Trump, US institutions generally liked to at least keep up the pretense, which means that they often did have to make rules that aren't as bullshit as they could have been. In south and middle american dictatorships, they don't have to give a single flying fuck.
Before Trump, US institutions generally liked to at least keep up the pretense
Accurate.
which means that they often did have to make rules that aren't as bullshit as they could have been
Yes, but that doesn't mean that they weren't STILL 80-95% bullshit by volume.
In south and middle american dictatorships, they don't have to give a single flying fuck.
And they also don't have anywhere near the pressure from the most powerful corporations in the world.
Or elections designed to be unduly influenced by the highly organized and systemic corruption of corporations and their lobbies rather than the comparatively haphazard organization of less official corruption.
That makes a much bigger difference than the inherent motivation and fear of public resistance of the leaders themselves.
And they also don’t have anywhere near the pressure from the most powerful corporations in the world.
Or elections designed to be unduly influenced by the highly organized and systemic corruption of corporations and their lobbies rather than the comparatively haphazard organization of less official corruption.
In the case of banana republics, corruption for specific corporations is literally their reason for existence.
My general approach to life is to assume that not everything similar is the same, and to try to verify things. Ask questions even if you know the answer, having the reasoning explained can help you out in the future, y'know?
If someone wants to drink these, let them. If someone wants to drink gasoline, let them. It’s natural selection at this point. If it’s not hurting you or someone you care about, let them drink gas while smoking.
I mean I'm not going to go to their bumfuck nowhere town and take their horse food from them, but I am absolutely going to mock them for it and call them an inbred knuckle dragging FASshole.
One of my family members got into the “blue-green algae” fad (about 5 years after it fell out of mainstream). It was too expensive so they bought the horse algae from veterinarian supply. He said it was exactly the same, as long as you could put up with the grit.
My axolotl tank used to grow a lot of blue-green algae (which is actually cyanobacteria), how much money was I missing out on by not bagging it up to sell?
It's perfectly safe for humans. I've been drinking it for weeks without side effects. I have a glass in the morning with my oats. Plus my mane is shinier than ever.
Honestly, I trust the people making horse electrolytes more than I trust the FDA anyway. You don't want to piss off horse people, and the FDA has always been more of a corporate liability shield than a safety agency.
Of course, you'd still have to pay attention to the ingredients and take a small enough amount so you aren't getting too much of anything, but that would just make it last longer.
Like it states in the fact check article, it can be toxic for humans.
Horses are herbivores, humans omnovores. The stomachs of horses are different to ours. That means there could be certain ingredients which were prepared differently for horses so they are toxic for us, as we lack the ability to digest it the same way as a horse. Like soy for example. The soy used for animal food is toxic for us. The soy used for human consumption is different, of a much higher quality. We can't digest all soy types properly while herbivores can.
Another example: horses can eat everything they eat raw. We humans can't. We need to cook many things otherwise they are toxic (like eggplant) or they are very hard to digest. Horses can eat grass, we really shouldn't because we can't digest it properly.
Conclusion: don't use products made for animals (food and medicine) even though the ingredients might look safe while they can still be toxic due to different quality or preparation. Except dog and cat food in the US. Both of those are also safe for humans, as people during crisis or extreme poor people tend to eat that so both of those are also brought to FDA standards. But yes, as a European I can agree with you those standards are complete shit. Many FDA safe foods in the US are considered toxic here and aren't allowed on our market.
::: spoiler Alternatively just make snake juice, the ingredients aren't that expensive for all your electrolytes.
:::
Just be careful about the potassium, that's the one thing your body can't easily flush.
Aye, I just make sure to eat plenty of spinach and bananas before and after a small fast (I do at most 2 days, usually just 1). Apparently baked potatoes are also rich in potassium, I never knew until yesterday.
It's some concoction for days where you fast so you get some of the electrolytes that is expelled from your body as waste.
I guess one could think of it as "mineral water" because that's what it contains: just enough stuff for your cells so you don't cramp etc.
Man, tell that to my kidneys. I swear every time I get a blood test at the doctor they send me to the emergency room to get another potassium IV no matter how many of their stupid pills I take. That shit burns going into your veins, too. I don't even have any symptoms. They just all see 2.5 whatevers per whatever of potassium on their stupid number sheet and think I must be dying. I get bad cramps in my legs every night for days after the IV too. I swear doctors just like torturing me.
You are aware you're able to reject treatment up until you drop unconscious and they believe they have to save your life, right? As long as you're awake and not suicidal you can literally just walk away.
Yeah, they say that. Then they say if you refuse they won't treat your other conditions because you're non-compliant. Technically it's true, but functionally they have you trapped if you have any other issues, which I do.
Good shout! Best price I could here in Denmark is 149 DKK for 100 capsules though ($23.42 USD / €19.96 EUR), and it says the recommendation is 1-3 capsules an hour? That seems like a lot, but maybe that's for elite sport and not a couch potato like myself heh.
The dosage I use if I'm fasting is just 1 caplet an hour as needed, with a max of 10 per day. As a couch potato myself, I rarely exceed 5-7 on a heavy day. Probably 3-4 typically, depending on how much water I'm drinking/expelling. If I'm feeling off or sense a cramp coming, I'll take one.
I have a friend who actually got some and used a bit of it, though he did make sure to do the proper dosing calculations for his body mass so he didn't take way too much (which, from what I've seen online is the main danger with it, besides quality control.)
Apparently it does actually taste like apples lol
I've personally been drinking GFuel. It tastes better than gatorade and does more for me overall. I will say, there's no real "benefit" to branded electrolyte drinks in my experience. It's not hard to get a flavor syrup of your choosing and a flavorless bulk electrolyte powder (human-grade / food-grade), and mix the drink yourself.
That's the most damning thing about this to me. While there's an update that points out his worst conspiracy theories, I can't say he's wrong on every level. Gatorade is currently a PepsiCo product (from when they bought Quaker, who bought that part of Van Camp when the rest went to ConAgra). It's far removed from the college drink made by chem nerds for their jock friends. You don't need to support PepsiCo as a consumer. You can get the same stuff and make your own drinks for less money and generally supporting smaller companies closer to the production phase of the supply chain.
Just please don't use animal feed to do it, unless you very specifically know what you're doing.
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almost1337@lemmy.zip · 175 pts · 322d
osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org · 113 pts · 322d
If nothing else, the detailed follow-up is king shit.
I hope we get annual check-ins
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 37 pts · 322d
Eff waiting that long - nothing less frequent than quarterly will do, and preferably monthly. Too many details are likely to be forgotten or skipped in less frequent updates.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 64 pts · 321d
aw that post was so funny why’d they have to throw the antisemitic dogwhistle in there
canihasaccount@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 321d
I'm naive. What's the whistle there?
ExistingConsumingSpace@midwest.social · 80 pts · 321d
ZOG (usually capitalized) is an acronym standing for "zionist occupied government" tied to white supremacist groups that falls into the usual "Jewish cabal runs everything" nonsense.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 83 pts · 321d
to add to this, with this context, "the zog powder they sell to you" becomes a blantantly antisemitic conspiracy theory: Jewish people are feeding you crap (in this case, gatorade) to keep you weak
yes it’s ridiculous nonsense, but that’s how dogwhisles work.
ExistingConsumingSpace@midwest.social · 49 pts · 321d
Definitely. On top of that, bullshit like this contributes to the muddy waters when you have legitimate critiques of zionism and the government of Israel. But I'm sure the white supremacists know that when they create this bullshit so they can make potential recruits feel like more people agree with their horseshit.
FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 320d
I've definitely seen some people trot out terms like ZOG in discussions about Zionism or the Gaza genocide. Always skeeves me out.
One of the problems with what Israel is doing that nobody wants to talk about is that it gives these Nazi chuds oxygen in leftist spaces.
ExistingConsumingSpace@midwest.social · 4 pts · 320d
100%, Israel itself is the greatest threat to Jewish people worldwide. The false claims of antisemitism allows actual antisemitism to spread where it would have been stamped out otherwise.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 321d
The guy is eating horse supplements. He was never going to be top of the class.
canihasaccount@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 320d
That went right over my head. I figured zog was a typo lol. Thanks!
ExistingConsumingSpace@midwest.social · 12 pts · 320d
Honestly, it could be argued that it is good you're not aware of it.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 321d
I missed it too, but he did put a fucking ZOG thing there in lower case. ZOG as for (global) Zionist Occupational Government, the crown jewel of antisemitic conspiracies. His whole speech isn't about it, but that little casual slip means he is exposed to such ideas and/or ponders them at his own.
wiki:ZOG
canihasaccount@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 320d
I'd never heard of this. People are crazy lol
bizzle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
I'm going to be careful here, because I am not an antisemite and I want to continue living my life in such a way that people don't accuse me of being one. However, I have seen more anti Zionist rhetoric in the news since the Gaza genocide, and have always seen anti-Zionism as a distinct thing from antisemitism. Also, I don't think anyone can deny the hold AIPAC has on at least the American government, and clear Israeli influence on other western governments as well. Anyway, my question is does use of the term ZOG necessarily have to be antisemitic?
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 320d
You'd have a hard time explaining yourself if you're going to use it. It's impossible to decouple decades of dumb conspiracy theories from a word that means just that. Better find another one more specific.
coach@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 320d
Yes. The term was invented by white power groups and needs to stay relegated to white power groups. Sure, we have our criticisms of Israel's foreign policy, the genocide, the actual antisemitism rife throughout Israel (as Palenstinians are actual Semites and most Israeli Jews are Semites by lineage), etc etc. The criticisms from the people that use the term Zog are that Jews have tails and horns and want to eat babies etc. Our cause is not the same, nor should our vernacular be.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 321d
Not sure I'd count it as a dog whistle hah, it is just straight up antisemitist
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net · 29 pts · 322d
and I am more hydrated than you.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 320d
Oh fuck, get back everyone. This person is hydrated.
Guess people will do just about anything to get a nutrient from anywhere but food.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 127 pts · 322d
It might actually work .... until you have to pass a kidney stone the size of an orange
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 53 pts · 322d
Will definitely make you piss like a horse when you pass that
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 26 pts · 322d
Hey, as long as I also get the benefit of having a horse's... equipment, then I'm good with that!
/s
derek@infosec.pub · 25 pts · 321d
I'm afraid there is no reason to suspect that ingesting higher-than-suggested doses of vitamins and minerals will make your penis larger. Even while passing the kidney stone.
thegr8goldfish@startrek.website · 24 pts · 321d
Afraid? Fear is the mind killer. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
derek@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 321d
True. Poor wordsmanship on my part. My intent was to disabuse our friend of the notion the bargain is favorable. 😉
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 7 pts · 321d
Aww, but c'mon! The girth has got to expand somewhat as the stone goes through, doesn't it? DOESN'T IT?!?!?
(Just ignore the tone of mild desperation & let me have my fantasy... please?)
/s
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 321d
just stop by Fenton's Horse Ranch you'll feel better nsfw
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 4 pts · 321d
It's about that flare, right?
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 5 pts · 321d
Well, flare-ups, anyway - that burning sensation is really a mood killer.
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 82 pts · 322d
So, I'm sure this is a bad idea. But can anyone tell me exactly why? Years ago, in a desperate situation, a doctor told us to get antibiotics for fish and use them, and we had to do that a few times. Some animal products are identical or nearly identical to human products, some are quite different...
With this in particular, how is it different, and why is it bad?
H4rdStyl3z@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 101 pts · 322d
Chubbyemu explains it best: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=ifXH86-eIqk
But basically, the electrolyte balance that's healthy for a horse is quite a lot higher than what is healthy for a human (due to body mass differences, among other things). The magnesium in the horse electrolyte is actually over the lethal dose for a human if taken as written. You could theoretically take it and be fine if you calculate the proper dose yourself, but by that point you're better off just buying human products, I guess.
EDIT: I was thinking of manganese, not magnesium, but that's 1500% of the daily intake, not necessarily lethal dose. Sodium, though, is over the lethal dose.
bulwark@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 322d
Chubbyemu's videos are great, but sometimes the story seems a little over the top. Then I remember how many people live in this country/on earth and realize those situations must be happening all the time.
lectricleopard@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 322d
Yeah, 1 in a million happens more than 7000 times a day.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 321d
Just to add to this, on human stuff, they have an incentive to not be sued out of existence for a single fuckup In horse medicine, it's kind of like "Eh, a stiff breeze could have killed that horse!"
That bucket of stuff is probably th same ingredients, but sourced from who knows where cheapest biddder, mixed together by eyeballing it for 30 years on equipment that's probably barely maintained.
I remember reading up on New Life Spectrum fish food a while ago and they were making the pellets on a salvaged pasta press. No tests for lead or any other contaminants because no one gives a shit about the mental health of ornamental fish. I'm sure it's slightly more rigorous for horses, but I doubt the sanitation, quality controls, and batch monitoring are up to human grade snuff.
PacMan@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 321d
I somehow did not get the notification that he posted a new video thank you kind internet stranger. I have been a fan of his work for years
5parky@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 321d
Because if you take horse electrolytes, you wake up the next day with your shoes nailed to your feet with an overwhelming urge to shit in the road.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 321d
... so same old same old you're saying?
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 321d
This is why we have designated shitting streets.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 321d
ohhhhh that explains so much. this fucking country
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 321d
Ohhhhh! That makes sense. Also explains why I ate all my young and started pooping really long strings after I took those fish antibiotics.
The strings proved unremarkable, to be honest, but I do miss my kids.
medgremlin@midwest.social · 6 pts · 320d
All joking aside, if you start having pencil-thin poop all the time (or even just frequenly), that can be a sign of colon cancer and you really need to go see a doctor.
Thteven@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 322d
It's the dosage I think. Chubbyemu did a video on this exact thing.
https://youtu.be/LUGdQnxuixI
Waffle@infosec.pub · 20 pts · 321d
It has enough salt to cause a stroke or a seizure.
toeblast96@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 321d
horses crave SODIUM
resting_parrot@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 322d
I don't know about this product specifically, but in general, animal food products are not regulated as much as food for people. This means it may not be as safe.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 321d
Depends on the animal and the jurisdiction. As far as I'm aware, dog and especially cat food is more tightly regulated than human food in the US.
Horse food though? Not so much.
And almost no other countries are victims of regulatory capture to the degree that the US is.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 7 pts · 321d
That seems hard to believe, considering stuff like the "banana republic" thing - surely, the country that gets couped for the purpose of economic exploitation by a foreign power is captured more thoroughly than a country that had at least somewhat democratic institutions?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 321d
You'd think so, but guess what country the corporations couping with impunity is almost invariably from?
Past the propaganda, the institutions of the US aren't actually that democratic. They've mostly been designed by and for the rich and powerful from the beginning but especially since the rise of Neoliberalism in the late 70s.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 5 pts · 321d
Before Trump, US institutions generally liked to at least keep up the pretense, which means that they often did have to make rules that aren't as bullshit as they could have been. In south and middle american dictatorships, they don't have to give a single flying fuck.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 321d
Accurate.
Yes, but that doesn't mean that they weren't STILL 80-95% bullshit by volume.
And they also don't have anywhere near the pressure from the most powerful corporations in the world.
Or elections designed to be unduly influenced by the highly organized and systemic corruption of corporations and their lobbies rather than the comparatively haphazard organization of less official corruption.
That makes a much bigger difference than the inherent motivation and fear of public resistance of the leaders themselves.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 321d
In the case of banana republics, corruption for specific corporations is literally their reason for existence.
meco03211@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 322d
Specifically around things like cleanliness and packaging. Places that make vet medicine would not pass a health inspection.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 321d
This is how to use what our parents called the information superhighway responsibly right here. Well done Sir/Ma'am/other 🫡
dharmacurious@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 321d
My general approach to life is to assume that not everything similar is the same, and to try to verify things. Ask questions even if you know the answer, having the reasoning explained can help you out in the future, y'know?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 62 pts · 321d
It's got what plants crave
nosuchanon@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 321d
And horses apparently.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 321d
Its got what plants crave!
P1k1e@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 321d
Welcome to Costco I love you
krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 320d
modus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 320d
Ivermectin?
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 321d
If someone wants to drink these, let them. If someone wants to drink gasoline, let them. It’s natural selection at this point. If it’s not hurting you or someone you care about, let them drink gas while smoking.
socsa@piefed.social · 14 pts · 321d
I mean I'm not going to go to their bumfuck nowhere town and take their horse food from them, but I am absolutely going to mock them for it and call them an inbred knuckle dragging FASshole.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 321d
4grams@awful.systems · 27 pts · 321d
One of my family members got into the “blue-green algae” fad (about 5 years after it fell out of mainstream). It was too expensive so they bought the horse algae from veterinarian supply. He said it was exactly the same, as long as you could put up with the grit.
These people exist (and I’m related to them).
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 320d
My axolotl tank used to grow a lot of blue-green algae (which is actually cyanobacteria), how much money was I missing out on by not bagging it up to sell?
stray@pawb.social · 1 pts · 320d
As a kid I used to buy mineral salt licks for my mice, but I'd secretly keep one for myself as a snack.
Chicken bullion cubes and pickle water are also the shit.
hdsrob@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 320d
I might have had a few licks of the salt blocks we got for rabbits when I was a kid (before the rabbits started licking them).
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 321d
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2024/09/fact-check-apple-a-day-bucket-of-horse-electrolytes-are-not-tested-for-humans-not-fda-approved-for-human-consumption.html
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 321d
well obviously it's not intended or certified for human consumption. that doesn't answer the question of if it works tho
Agent641@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 321d
It's perfectly safe for humans. I've been drinking it for weeks without side effects. I have a glass in the morning with my oats. Plus my mane is shinier than ever.
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 321d
me toiiiiu! i haventnttttttttt noticed any sideeeeeeeeer efffffffffffrcts at all ittttts jsutt cheeeeaper! hi icue momeent
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 321d
Someone did it anyway.
https://youtu.be/LUGdQnxuixI
theneverfox@pawb.social · 3 pts · 321d
I've seen no less than 3 people drink it on stream... Why is this a thing now?
webp@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 321d
Hysterias have been a theme throughout history, but now they spread digitally
theneverfox@pawb.social · 2 pts · 321d
This isn't a hysteria, it's a meme... But why?
This isn't the only horse related meme either, I've seen shit like people using feed bags and suddenly betting on old horse races
It's like the zombie/vampire economic thing... But I have no idea what horses mean
yozul@beehaw.org · 1 pts · 321d
Honestly, I trust the people making horse electrolytes more than I trust the FDA anyway. You don't want to piss off horse people, and the FDA has always been more of a corporate liability shield than a safety agency.
Of course, you'd still have to pay attention to the ingredients and take a small enough amount so you aren't getting too much of anything, but that would just make it last longer.
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 321d
Like it states in the fact check article, it can be toxic for humans.
Horses are herbivores, humans omnovores. The stomachs of horses are different to ours. That means there could be certain ingredients which were prepared differently for horses so they are toxic for us, as we lack the ability to digest it the same way as a horse. Like soy for example. The soy used for animal food is toxic for us. The soy used for human consumption is different, of a much higher quality. We can't digest all soy types properly while herbivores can.
Another example: horses can eat everything they eat raw. We humans can't. We need to cook many things otherwise they are toxic (like eggplant) or they are very hard to digest. Horses can eat grass, we really shouldn't because we can't digest it properly.
Conclusion: don't use products made for animals (food and medicine) even though the ingredients might look safe while they can still be toxic due to different quality or preparation. Except dog and cat food in the US. Both of those are also safe for humans, as people during crisis or extreme poor people tend to eat that so both of those are also brought to FDA standards. But yes, as a European I can agree with you those standards are complete shit. Many FDA safe foods in the US are considered toxic here and aren't allowed on our market.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 320d
Not that I condone consuming stuff made for other animals, but this sounds like stuff you made it up.
Hayduke@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 322d
Wasn’t there a Chubbyemu about this?
“Presenting to the emergency room….”
bassgirl09@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 321d
Yes, there was. Posted 4 months ago. I'll stick to products intended for humans thank you very much!
FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 322d
DougDoug is that you?
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 321d
No, the toilet paper full of shit is missing.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 320d
Wait until this guy learns about buying salt, sugar, and citric acid in bulk.
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 11 pts · 322d
::: spoiler Alternatively just make snake juice, the ingredients aren't that expensive for all your electrolytes.
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Just be careful about the potassium, that's the one thing your body can't easily flush.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 321d
Yeah, hyperkalemia can get real fucking serious!
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 321d
Aye, I just make sure to eat plenty of spinach and bananas before and after a small fast (I do at most 2 days, usually just 1). Apparently baked potatoes are also rich in potassium, I never knew until yesterday.
KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol · 8 pts · 321d
wtf is snake juice??
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 8 pts · 321d
It's some concoction for days where you fast so you get some of the electrolytes that is expelled from your body as waste.
I guess one could think of it as "mineral water" because that's what it contains: just enough stuff for your cells so you don't cramp etc.
yozul@beehaw.org · 7 pts · 321d
Man, tell that to my kidneys. I swear every time I get a blood test at the doctor they send me to the emergency room to get another potassium IV no matter how many of their stupid pills I take. That shit burns going into your veins, too. I don't even have any symptoms. They just all see 2.5 whatevers per whatever of potassium on their stupid number sheet and think I must be dying. I get bad cramps in my legs every night for days after the IV too. I swear doctors just like torturing me.
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 321d
You are aware you're able to reject treatment up until you drop unconscious and they believe they have to save your life, right? As long as you're awake and not suicidal you can literally just walk away.
yozul@beehaw.org · 3 pts · 321d
Yeah, they say that. Then they say if you refuse they won't treat your other conditions because you're non-compliant. Technically it's true, but functionally they have you trapped if you have any other issues, which I do.
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 321d
I prefer Salt Stick now. It's in gelcap form, no taste, fast acting, zero calories. Take as needed.
RedSnt@feddit.dk · 5 pts · 321d
Good shout! Best price I could here in Denmark is 149 DKK for 100 capsules though ($23.42 USD / €19.96 EUR), and it says the recommendation is 1-3 capsules an hour? That seems like a lot, but maybe that's for elite sport and not a couch potato like myself heh.
renrenPDX@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 321d
The dosage I use if I'm fasting is just 1 caplet an hour as needed, with a max of 10 per day. As a couch potato myself, I rarely exceed 5-7 on a heavy day. Probably 3-4 typically, depending on how much water I'm drinking/expelling. If I'm feeling off or sense a cramp coming, I'll take one.
astropenguin5@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 320d
I have a friend who actually got some and used a bit of it, though he did make sure to do the proper dosing calculations for his body mass so he didn't take way too much (which, from what I've seen online is the main danger with it, besides quality control.) Apparently it does actually taste like apples lol
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 8 pts · 320d
I've personally been drinking GFuel. It tastes better than gatorade and does more for me overall. I will say, there's no real "benefit" to branded electrolyte drinks in my experience. It's not hard to get a flavor syrup of your choosing and a flavorless bulk electrolyte powder (human-grade / food-grade), and mix the drink yourself.
That's the most damning thing about this to me. While there's an update that points out his worst conspiracy theories, I can't say he's wrong on every level. Gatorade is currently a PepsiCo product (from when they bought Quaker, who bought that part of Van Camp when the rest went to ConAgra). It's far removed from the college drink made by chem nerds for their jock friends. You don't need to support PepsiCo as a consumer. You can get the same stuff and make your own drinks for less money and generally supporting smaller companies closer to the production phase of the supply chain.
Just please don't use animal feed to do it, unless you very specifically know what you're doing.
stevedice@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 320d
Other than failing to meet made-for-human-consumption safety standards, and I'm not saying that's a minor thing, is there anything wrong with this?
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 320d
If my crazy horse woman grandmother is anything to go by, no not really?
Just kinda risky
stevedice@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 319d
Horse woman as in "she likes horses" or "she's half horse"?
Sasquatch@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 319d
ezeno789@piefed.social · 6 pts · 320d
So... How long until he die?
Hupf@feddit.org · 2 pts · 320d
https://youtu.be/NyBEy0HjZPU