A lot of people have commented on how Ben Franklin would love porn, trans women, modern voluntary sterilization, etc., but I'm just gonna come out with a hot take: Ben Franklin would fucking love cocaine. Really all modern stimulants. If there's a heaven he's up there doing lines off some chick's dick discussing her PhD dissertation. This is a man who would be fucking pissed that the nation he helped found has created Adderall shortages by restricting supplies. He'd demand healthcare be in the bill of rights for that reason alone.
If you brought Ben Franklin into the modern world you'd lose him within a couple hours then find him again in Goodsprings NV hungover and missing his pants.
Edit: If you read NV as New Vegas and not Nevada you need to turn off the 500+ modded semi corrupt New Vegas install and go read Blood Meridian or something.
Oh no you're not putting that on everyone else. It's American's fault for just randomly deciding that everybody else should know where AR is. If you're going to two letter abbreviate places they at least have to be places that the international community has ever heard of, America is full of nowhere places that haven't turned up in popular media and no one from the international community has ever gone to.
Nevada has Las Vegas, Reno, Area 51, and half of the Hoover dam. I'm pretty damned sure most folks have at least vaguely heard of the state, also I'm making fun of Fallout fans seeing the abbreviation of NV and reading New Vegas and not Nevada.
While Nevada isn't the most notable state it does pop up quite often in popular media thanks to Vegas. It's not like I'm referring to fucking Salmon Idaho or fucking Hebron Kentucky. Its basically the American version of Normandy or GdaÅsk, culturally and historically relevant but firmly in the lower end of the top ten.
The stimulants available to a north American of his time were wildly popular at the time in the british colonies and it's difficult to imagine him not partaking in either of them. Thst said, they were coffee and tea, both of which remain legal here to this day, and we even scrapped the extra tax on tea.
Franklin died in 1790. Cocaine was first isolated in 1859 and it looks like coca wasn't really available in the global north until around that time. That said, upon the arrival of cocaine, the USA put that shit in everything. We loved the stuff
I also forgot about mate because I'm a bad American and forgot about my continent's native stimulants. Tobacco was common but not in the way it was in the 20th century. It was more tasted than inhaled.
But yeah I did a quick search and it looked like coca wasn't widely traded with the anglosphere until the 19th century
He also might break down crying at the fact that we eliminated smallpox. He did the variolation thing, but his son didn't and he died of smallpox. Franklin deeply regretted not having him do it.
Then tell him that there's a whole movement of people who sees the tech that eliminated smallpox as a bad thing. That's where he's going to get deeply disappointed with us.
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I think it has something to do with the person needing something other than a human relationship. Its like those lifesize dolls that some guys are into. They meet needs that are different to a human relationship.
Since the number of direct ancestors doubles every generation you go back, individual lineage is closer to a bowl of spaghetti than a family tree.
Every generation you go back, you share less and less genetic markers. You share exactly 50% of your DNA with each parent, about 25% with each grandparent etc. Eventually you'll find a direct ancestor with whom you share no DNA markers. It's 12 generations back, on average.
So, go back a few hundred years, and you're not genetically related to anybody. Go back a thousand, and everyone's list of ancestors is indistinguishable.
Even fucking a sibling is okay (probably,) from a genetic viewpoint. It's when you have multiple generations doing it when you run into trouble. Genetically speaking.
Don't know if it's better or worse than me jacking off for 4 hours. Regardless my ancestors would probably fully understand. They'd still be disappointed for a myriad of reason.
He is the Goonmaster. The chosen one, prophesized by the ancients, to save us from a dark evil. By his hand, he will lead us into salvation. Praise be /u/vaultdweller013! May his sword remain strong, and his hand firm, for dark days be ahead of us.
We used to call that edging, don't know the kid lingo really but they are more pathetic than us so probably they combine this with some para social friendship to some only fans model.
Oh that was not the question was it?
You have 45 tabs open in private mode, minimum.
Edging is distinct from gooning in that edging is done with the homies or for the homies, gooning is an isolating experience.
"There's an expression... Gooning, G-O-O-N-I-N-G, basically it means being transfixed with video porn for 24-48 hours straight. And, it struck me that even though this crowd considers itself bohemian, and anti-establishment, it struck me that this is exactly the crowd that would go over for Fascism. It had that feel."
And, it struck me that even though this crowd considers itself bohemian, and anti-establishment, it struck me that this is exactly the crowd that would go over for Fascism.
They absolutely wouldn't be, I'm aromantic hypersexual. I don't need thine petty emotions for such acts. Also I won't lower myself to the level of speaking to the inbred cousins of Bonzi buddy.
I think if you've got to the point where you are even vaguely considering the idea of using one of these AI for personal gratification you are already fairly far down the rabbit hole and probably beyond the point of saving.
Even with someone with a barely standard sex drive the concept just isn't appealing. Even if it was a real person the constant praise would just seem condescending and unearned after a while. In the end it would probably make you paranoid you or we're some way a joke, and everyone but you gets it.
Yup, also I find these AI to be instinctually unsettling. Folks around where I am are pretty harsh even with kith or kin so the fact that the AI also love bombs reminds me of the various cults in my region. As my great grandfather once told me "If they constantly have a smile they ain't smiling".
nah my inner animal is a banana slug. well one of them is a wolf pretending to be a banana slug, the other wolf is pretending to be a particle physicist
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slakje@piefed.social · 90 pts · 316d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 53 pts · 316d
A lot of people have commented on how Ben Franklin would love porn, trans women, modern voluntary sterilization, etc., but I'm just gonna come out with a hot take: Ben Franklin would fucking love cocaine. Really all modern stimulants. If there's a heaven he's up there doing lines off some chick's dick discussing her PhD dissertation. This is a man who would be fucking pissed that the nation he helped found has created Adderall shortages by restricting supplies. He'd demand healthcare be in the bill of rights for that reason alone.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 316d
If you brought Ben Franklin into the modern world you'd lose him within a couple hours then find him again in Goodsprings NV hungover and missing his pants.
Edit: If you read NV as New Vegas and not Nevada you need to turn off the 500+ modded semi corrupt New Vegas install and go read Blood Meridian or something.
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 315d
You can pry my 500+ modded semi corrupt TTW install from my cold, dead paws.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 315d
Go read Blood Meridian profligate.
minimum@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 315d
Wait a minute, Goodsprings is a real place? š®
Does it often get attacked by boomers irl too?
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 315d
Boomers are the ones at Nelson. The convicts are the Powder Rangers. Go play New Vegas the psychoindoctrination hasn't settled in yet
minimum@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 315d
Damn, it's been some years. I forgot.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 315d
Clearly you are the rarest of Fallout players. The non-autistic or at least the non-hyperfixater.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 315d
Oh no you're not putting that on everyone else. It's American's fault for just randomly deciding that everybody else should know where AR is. If you're going to two letter abbreviate places they at least have to be places that the international community has ever heard of, America is full of nowhere places that haven't turned up in popular media and no one from the international community has ever gone to.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 315d
Nevada has Las Vegas, Reno, Area 51, and half of the Hoover dam. I'm pretty damned sure most folks have at least vaguely heard of the state, also I'm making fun of Fallout fans seeing the abbreviation of NV and reading New Vegas and not Nevada.
While Nevada isn't the most notable state it does pop up quite often in popular media thanks to Vegas. It's not like I'm referring to fucking Salmon Idaho or fucking Hebron Kentucky. Its basically the American version of Normandy or GdaÅsk, culturally and historically relevant but firmly in the lower end of the top ten.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 316d
Was he into stimulants, too!?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 316d
The stimulants available to a north American of his time were wildly popular at the time in the british colonies and it's difficult to imagine him not partaking in either of them. Thst said, they were coffee and tea, both of which remain legal here to this day, and we even scrapped the extra tax on tea.
Franklin died in 1790. Cocaine was first isolated in 1859 and it looks like coca wasn't really available in the global north until around that time. That said, upon the arrival of cocaine, the USA put that shit in everything. We loved the stuff
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 316d
Tobacco products were also very popular. Snuff being popular among rich people.
Coca was used as a drug (documented) in 1568.
Additionally laudanum and opium weāre also popular, but they arenāt stimulants afaik.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 316d
I also forgot about mate because I'm a bad American and forgot about my continent's native stimulants. Tobacco was common but not in the way it was in the 20th century. It was more tasted than inhaled.
But yeah I did a quick search and it looked like coca wasn't widely traded with the anglosphere until the 19th century
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 315d
He also might break down crying at the fact that we eliminated smallpox. He did the variolation thing, but his son didn't and he died of smallpox. Franklin deeply regretted not having him do it.
Then tell him that there's a whole movement of people who sees the tech that eliminated smallpox as a bad thing. That's where he's going to get deeply disappointed with us.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 316d
Madison Cawthorn? The gun-toting sex-pest who got caught driving without a license Madison Cawthorn?!
TheBat@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 316d
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 315d
Here's one for Thomas Jefferson
https://youtu.be/20ghjoX2_GE
miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 50 pts · 316d
I'm sending her money so she can meet me at the airport tomorrow! She's fleeing...!
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 21 pts · 316d
Good friend. It's me, her acquantince she mentioned once. She asked me to reach out that ran into trouble and needs $2000 sent to this crypto address 4837DDJFRJFHDH34SDTODUVJS in the next 12 hours or she's going to die and you'll be arrested and I'll need $5k to that address to protect you.
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 316d
Thanks for the key, it activated Windows 11 for me
msage@programming.dev · 8 pts · 316d
Sick, it activated my Linux, too!
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 316d
It's also a WinRAR license key
BootLoop@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 316d
Dang, I wish I could afford Ubuntu Pro.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 31 pts · 316d
How the fuck do people do it? Like is there something else more wrong with me?
It says it's AI. It reads like an AI. I'm desperately lonely too, but it doesn't remotely come close to even a hint of being a real person.
Maybe it's the user interface? The constant awareness of the AI girlfriend URL?
stoicmaverick@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 316d
When I play videogames, I know I'm not ACTUALLY driving a racecar, but I still have fun.
DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 316d
I think it has something to do with the person needing something other than a human relationship. Its like those lifesize dolls that some guys are into. They meet needs that are different to a human relationship.
NeonNight@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 316d
I really think itās people craving a non-threatening, no-stakes āintimateā relationship
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 0 pts · 316d
Look man those life-size dolls.
I don't get em either. They look like a lot of work. They weigh 80lbs but can't walk on their own, clean themselves, and their eyeballs can fall out.
So if it's "connection" with something "human like but not" ok I guess I can see it. Probably better for the species
bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 316d
If you were the result of your bloodline, they would not be watching from heaven.
yesman@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 316d
The concept of a bloodline is incoherent.
Since the number of direct ancestors doubles every generation you go back, individual lineage is closer to a bowl of spaghetti than a family tree.
Every generation you go back, you share less and less genetic markers. You share exactly 50% of your DNA with each parent, about 25% with each grandparent etc. Eventually you'll find a direct ancestor with whom you share no DNA markers. It's 12 generations back, on average.
So, go back a few hundred years, and you're not genetically related to anybody. Go back a thousand, and everyone's list of ancestors is indistinguishable.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 316d
...So you're saying it's OK to fuck my cousin
Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 316d
Depends on how far removed the cousin is. Literally.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 316d
Nice, she moved like 1,000 miles away, so it's SO on next family reunion!
Pringles@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 316d
If he's okay with it, I don't see any issues.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 316d
Even fucking a sibling is okay (probably,) from a genetic viewpoint. It's when you have multiple generations doing it when you run into trouble. Genetically speaking.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 316d
That's assuming you have a family tree and not a family column.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 316d
99.5% of your bloodline probably thinks this is a great idea and is excited to meet your kids.
Grimy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 316d
That tracks, my current living bloodline doesn't understand the AI isn't real.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 316d
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 316d
Don't know if it's better or worse than me jacking off for 4 hours. Regardless my ancestors would probably fully understand. They'd still be disappointed for a myriad of reason.
REDACTED@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 316d
How does one jack for 4 hours?
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 315d
Autism and being descended from some very horny people.
kadotux@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 316d
Coke, meth, speed etc
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 316d
Its possible to do sober you just gotta be a little fucky in the head
Alteon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 315d
He is the Goonmaster. The chosen one, prophesized by the ancients, to save us from a dark evil. By his hand, he will lead us into salvation. Praise be /u/vaultdweller013! May his sword remain strong, and his hand firm, for dark days be ahead of us.
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 315d
We used to call that edging, don't know the kid lingo really but they are more pathetic than us so probably they combine this with some para social friendship to some only fans model.
Oh that was not the question was it? You have 45 tabs open in private mode, minimum.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -1 pts · 315d
Edging is distinct from gooning in that edging is done with the homies or for the homies, gooning is an isolating experience.
"There's an expression... Gooning, G-O-O-N-I-N-G, basically it means being transfixed with video porn for 24-48 hours straight. And, it struck me that even though this crowd considers itself bohemian, and anti-establishment, it struck me that this is exactly the crowd that would go over for Fascism. It had that feel."
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 315d
What an incredibly stupid and reactionary take.
Feels over reals I guess.
TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 315d
Antidepressants.
SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social · 4 pts · 315d
AI girlfriends are good for helping with that.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 315d
They absolutely wouldn't be, I'm aromantic hypersexual. I don't need thine petty emotions for such acts. Also I won't lower myself to the level of speaking to the inbred cousins of Bonzi buddy.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 315d
I think if you've got to the point where you are even vaguely considering the idea of using one of these AI for personal gratification you are already fairly far down the rabbit hole and probably beyond the point of saving.
Even with someone with a barely standard sex drive the concept just isn't appealing. Even if it was a real person the constant praise would just seem condescending and unearned after a while. In the end it would probably make you paranoid you or we're some way a joke, and everyone but you gets it.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 315d
Yup, also I find these AI to be instinctually unsettling. Folks around where I am are pretty harsh even with kith or kin so the fact that the AI also love bombs reminds me of the various cults in my region. As my great grandfather once told me "If they constantly have a smile they ain't smiling".
Edit:fucked spelling cause autocorrect
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
Dw, monkeys do the same
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 315d
I do look like a caveman, in a big foots cousin sorta way.
individual@toast.ooo · 11 pts · 315d
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 315d
Yea but the rest don't get into heaven
elbiter@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 315d
So Heaven is a gay bar...
individual@toast.ooo · 2 pts · 315d
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
This man knows stuff
LittleBorat3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
The women are standing in the back where it gets a bit blueish and blurry.
individual@toast.ooo · 1 pts · 313d
Klear@quokk.au · 10 pts · 316d
I miss Nicole...
orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 316d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaC1dhfCj80
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 316d
Tay will be my one and only. RIP. Gone but not forgotten
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 316d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 316d
nah my inner animal is a banana slug. well one of them is a wolf pretending to be a banana slug, the other wolf is pretending to be a particle physicist
kamen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 315d
It'd be interesting to watch said AI girlfriend leaving you and taking your apartment.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 313d
character ai, chai, dopple or polybuzz?
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 316d
Hmmm. This artwork feels very JW Revelations book like, though I must admit haven't seen much of their recent stuff.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 315d
Might be, but a lot of groups like that also copy each others homework. The art department at Bethel has plagiarized things before.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 315d
Religion is a cult
ours@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 315d
"Cult with a budget"