Switched to CachyOS Plasma on my main machine not even two weeks go! My only regret is that I didn‘t try it sooner. It has it‘s hiccups but QoL features make up for it. It actually works better for me than Windows did since Win7. At least so far. I genuinely enjoy using my computer again.
I love the task manager and it‘s UI. It‘s just much easier to keep track of your connected devices, running programs and media playing in the background. The UI allows you to quickly adjust sound volume of programs without having to navigate through arbitrary menus. Or to navigate through a song or podcast running in the background. You can do that on a mini player from the Task manager (the equivalent to the task bar on Windows). External storage devices have a simple dismount button. No right clicks and searching for the right option necessary. There are many more little UI decisions that KDE did right. The dolphin browser and general file search functions are blazing fast. No comparison to Windows built in file browser. I also love how I can update almost all programs and drivers at the same time with one click.
There are of course some caveats but that‘s not really the OS‘ fault most of the time. For example my Discord didn‘t want to start until I update but the package wasn‘t ready yet for CachyOS. I looked for a solution online and found several options to deal with this problem. And that‘s honestly fantastic because everyone has different preferences and can use the solution that best suits them. I ended up disabling automatic updates for Discord in one file and then told Discord it‘s already on the new update by changing one digit in another file to resemble the current update. Now Discord will leave me alone with random updates and I can just update it whenever I want in Octopi (the app manager).
So what was a hiccup at first ended up being a learning experience. Now I understand my computer a little better and Discord won‘t annoy me as much anymore long term. This should be possible on Windows too but I would’ve never knew that without Linux. I‘m starting to understand what they mean by „finally owning my computer“. It takes time but it‘s very rewarding.
Yes. And using Rufus to create your install media, you can even configure it to create a local account for you so you don't have to go through the rigmarole yourself.
Actually, I wonder if that still works with an image of the new current Win11 releases where the local account functionality has been "removed." I haven't tried it. Someone will probably chime in.
The vast majority of people have already activated Windows with an email address. I have several friends who have done so and for them this cost nothing.
They may accept the ongoing cost, but that doesn't make it free. There may be no cash payment, but that doesn't make it free. Cost comes in many forms. The glib misrepresentation of the transaction is disappointing.
If serious, whichever one works best for you. Lots of info out there to help steer you to a good match. There are some that will have a harder time than others thanks to Microsoft domination all these years.
For a desktop OS, I have been recommending Linux Mint to new Linux users. The UI feels familiar to a Windows veteran, and the initial setup is designed to be user friendly.
However, don't fret too much over it. Distros are mostly just a pre-configuration of the OS, all of them can do everything.
If you want to delay your switch to Linux, there are scripts to enroll in the ESU, but unfortunately the local account script stopped working on the one I used. Have not tested massgravel's. Other options are to get Win 10 LTSC, or keep your system disconnected from the Internet.
An aside: My main desktop is Linux but I am currently trying Winboat to get the last piece of my hardware dependence off (my 20 year old DAC and rocksmith 2014) to work. Then, I can finally nuke Windows off of my secondary laptop because I'm sure as hell not giving it Win 11.
Everyone is making a big deal about support ending but it doesn't fucking matter anyway. You PC is not going to suddenly stop working you just wont get updates. Considering the updates microsoft pushes now days are loaded with malware and spyware anyway it's all a wash if you keep using 10.
I remember you were able to crash someone's PC by sending them a link to a webpage. This is what security updates prevent and there were even worse ones
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Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 91 pts · 323d
The fact that in lieu of paying them they simply want you to log in with an account they control should speak volumes to the privacy implications.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 323d
I bet if you do end up paying, you can only claim it if you make an account too..
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 323d
Not something I'm willing to do, but it's not a problem for most users who entered their email address long ago.
snoons@lemmy.ca · 66 pts · 323d
I give my sincere condolences to anyone that is forced to use this shitty corporate OS.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 323d
Switched to CachyOS Plasma on my main machine not even two weeks go! My only regret is that I didn‘t try it sooner. It has it‘s hiccups but QoL features make up for it. It actually works better for me than Windows did since Win7. At least so far. I genuinely enjoy using my computer again.
snoons@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 323d
(╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞ ayyyy
limerod@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 322d
What QOL features improved your experience?
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
I love the task manager and it‘s UI. It‘s just much easier to keep track of your connected devices, running programs and media playing in the background. The UI allows you to quickly adjust sound volume of programs without having to navigate through arbitrary menus. Or to navigate through a song or podcast running in the background. You can do that on a mini player from the Task manager (the equivalent to the task bar on Windows). External storage devices have a simple dismount button. No right clicks and searching for the right option necessary. There are many more little UI decisions that KDE did right. The dolphin browser and general file search functions are blazing fast. No comparison to Windows built in file browser. I also love how I can update almost all programs and drivers at the same time with one click.
There are of course some caveats but that‘s not really the OS‘ fault most of the time. For example my Discord didn‘t want to start until I update but the package wasn‘t ready yet for CachyOS. I looked for a solution online and found several options to deal with this problem. And that‘s honestly fantastic because everyone has different preferences and can use the solution that best suits them. I ended up disabling automatic updates for Discord in one file and then told Discord it‘s already on the new update by changing one digit in another file to resemble the current update. Now Discord will leave me alone with random updates and I can just update it whenever I want in Octopi (the app manager).
So what was a hiccup at first ended up being a learning experience. Now I understand my computer a little better and Discord won‘t annoy me as much anymore long term. This should be possible on Windows too but I would’ve never knew that without Linux. I‘m starting to understand what they mean by „finally owning my computer“. It takes time but it‘s very rewarding.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 323d
https://massgrave.dev/
How about seven instead, and for free?
Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 323d
And without login
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 323d
Yes. And using Rufus to create your install media, you can even configure it to create a local account for you so you don't have to go through the rigmarole yourself.
Actually, I wonder if that still works with an image of the new current Win11 releases where the local account functionality has been "removed." I haven't tried it. Someone will probably chime in.
Krudler@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 314d
It works and you can create a local account only
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 52 pts · 323d
The article olympically ignores the option to install linux.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 323d
They knew Lemmy would have that covered.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 322d
Here's is how to get 3 extra years for free: https://massgrave.dev/ without Microsoft account login
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 322d
Potentially 6
kosanovskiy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 321d
Wouldn't this get patched with one of their "security updates".
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 321d
They seem to not care, some methods are even server side, they could have patched hwidgen a decade ago
goatinspace@feddit.org · 33 pts · 323d
tangeli@piefed.social · 26 pts · 323d
It's not free.
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 323d
How do you figure?
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 323d
spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works · -8 pts · 323d
The vast majority of people have already activated Windows with an email address. I have several friends who have done so and for them this cost nothing.
tangeli@piefed.social · 13 pts · 323d
They may accept the ongoing cost, but that doesn't make it free. There may be no cash payment, but that doesn't make it free. Cost comes in many forms. The glib misrepresentation of the transaction is disappointing.
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 322d
badgermurphy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 320d
Sibbo@sopuli.xyz · 22 pts · 323d
Yeah, but what if we all just install Linux?
YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 323d
That's a great idea! Which distro are we all installing?
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 12 pts · 323d
If serious, whichever one works best for you. Lots of info out there to help steer you to a good match. There are some that will have a harder time than others thanks to Microsoft domination all these years.
If not serious. Arch, of course.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 323d
For a desktop OS, I have been recommending Linux Mint to new Linux users. The UI feels familiar to a Windows veteran, and the initial setup is designed to be user friendly.
However, don't fret too much over it. Distros are mostly just a pre-configuration of the OS, all of them can do everything.
melfie@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 323d
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 323d
I am SO glad that I don't have to deal with bullshit Microsoft workarounds anymore.
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 323d
K but can we just keep using windows 10 anyways?
BombOmOm@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 323d
You can, but you won't be getting security updates. Best to not put an OS without security updates on the network.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 323d
If you want to delay your switch to Linux, there are scripts to enroll in the ESU, but unfortunately the local account script stopped working on the one I used. Have not tested massgravel's. Other options are to get Win 10 LTSC, or keep your system disconnected from the Internet.
An aside: My main desktop is Linux but I am currently trying Winboat to get the last piece of my hardware dependence off (my 20 year old DAC and rocksmith 2014) to work. Then, I can finally nuke Windows off of my secondary laptop because I'm sure as hell not giving it Win 11.
potajito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 323d
My dude just get a compatible dac (I use focusrite scarlet) and play rocksmith with Proton flawlessly
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 323d
Maybe as a Christmas gift to myself. My current one is an EIE pro that came with my guitar second hand. The linux "driver" only sort of works.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 322d
The $9 Apple DAC is unironically good. I can confirm it is plug-and-play with Mint.
Edit: To be clear, it is good if you just need an audio output (the core feature of a DAC). If you want crazy DAC features, it clearly isn't it.
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 323d
You can, and without microsoft pushing malware onto your system with out your consent your chances of getting hacked are probably lessened.
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 323d
Shhhh, no one tell them there is a free way without a Microsoft account.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 323d
There is for now. Microsoft is working on closing the various loopholes.
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 322d
Their always will be, because enterprises and businesses require it.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 323d
Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 323d
https://lemmy.world/comment/19955981
Snowpix@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 322d
Nah. Switching to CachyOS instead.
PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 322d
Linux or pirate it.
Geodad@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 322d
JigglySackles@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 321d
Nobody has worked harder in the push for Linux than Microsoft.
ohshittheyknow@lemmynsfw.com · 4 pts · 321d
Option 4, just install another OS that doesn't pull this BS.
tomjuggler@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 321d
When windows XP went away I got 12 more years of updates on my old dell laptop - with Linux of course. The laptop died before 32 bit support did.
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 321d
Buying a new PC this weekend, going for Linux straight up
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 323d
Everyone is making a big deal about support ending but it doesn't fucking matter anyway. You PC is not going to suddenly stop working you just wont get updates. Considering the updates microsoft pushes now days are loaded with malware and spyware anyway it's all a wash if you keep using 10.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 323d
The issue isn't it not working, the issue is security updates no longer being made. Feel free to keep using 10, just don't put it on the network.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 18 pts · 323d
With the rate of CVEs scored at 9+ that come across all the stuff I manage at work I would not agree.
It would be foolish to simply stop patching this giant pile of obsolete insecure dependencies they are calling windows.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 323d
A lot of CVEs are overrated, but yeah I still wouldn't do it. It only takes one.
iopq@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 322d
I remember you were able to crash someone's PC by sending them a link to a webpage. This is what security updates prevent and there were even worse ones