i mean for bacteria it actually is because bacteria can exchange genes across "species" so it's not really a species... at least not in the sense of eukaryotes (where species are defined such that different species cannot exchange genes with each other)
A paper I quite enjoy is "Queer Theory for Lichens" which argued that queer theory is genuinely a useful framework for studying lichens; Lichens resist categorisation in a manner that feels like they're actively mocking our taxonomic efforts.
They occasionally sell the Brussels sprouts on the stalk like that at the farmers market. I feel like some kind of vegetable wizard walking around with it.
Yeah, I know it is a joke and all, but coconuts doesn't have hairs or contain milk, so that particular example doesn't undermine "morphology-based phylogeny" at all.
I lived in the US Virgin Islands as a kid. Our back yard had a seemingly endless supply of mangoes, bananas, avocado, lime, oranges (the real stuff, not the engineered shit we eat in the mainland), grapefruit, bread fruit, acerola, plantains, and pigeon peas. It wasn't even that big a yard. Shit just grows.
They exist in FL and I've climbed trees to get em. I like em when they're yellow. Delicious coconut water and basically a coconut "jelly" lining. I also lived in the Caribbean my early life (2-7) so had a lot down there too, plus fresh sugarcane, guava, mangoes, and a thing we called a plum but was a small tree fruit that I also loved yellow ripeness. After a quick Google evidently called a June Plum or a hog plum. Used to eat em straight from the tree.
Maybe we just disagree on what color "salmon" is, but the meat is what I would call that color. They're like flamingos in that they take on pigment from their diet. For this reason, farmed salmon will not be "salmon" color unless their diet has been supplemented with the pigment.
i think they're only familiar with it (edit: the overripe stuff) because they don't pay attention to their thai food. that has exploded in popularity over the last few decades and fuck yeah.
It's one of twoish (one species of platypus, three of echidnas) mammals on its order (the other order which has all the more normal mammals — placental mammals) it's so different to the other mammals that really all monotremes have in common with placentals is hair and milk
I'm a little sad that everyone's focused on the coconut and missing the reference to the naked man who lives in a barell trolling the father of western philosophy.
Just learn about Diogenes, he's awesome as fuck, hung around with a pack of wild dogs, told Alexander the great to get out of his sunlight, while laying in a pile of trash, dude did not give a fuck.
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fullsquare@awful.systems · 137 pts · 332d
runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 65 pts · 332d
One of our bioinformatics has a sign at his desk that says "taxonomy is a social construct".
ameancow@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 332d
runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 332d
"Yah but nuance is so hard! It's so much easier to just hate everything I don't understand"
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 332d
i mean for bacteria it actually is because bacteria can exchange genes across "species" so it's not really a species... at least not in the sense of eukaryotes (where species are defined such that different species cannot exchange genes with each other)
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 332d
A paper I quite enjoy is "Queer Theory for Lichens" which argued that queer theory is genuinely a useful framework for studying lichens; Lichens resist categorisation in a manner that feels like they're actively mocking our taxonomic efforts.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 57 pts · 332d
I wonder how many people think that this;
is what a coconut actually looks like.
EDIT:
Coconut as it looks on the palm tree
Famko@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 332d
That coconut is clearly not on a palm tree, mate. /s
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 332d
To be honest, I've noticed that with lots of foods. I know what the thing looks like in stores, but I have no idea what it's like in nature.
Cashews were another recent one, where I never would have guessed what they look like:
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 332d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 332d
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
ya
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 331d
I just ate wholemeal rice and still would not have guessed rice. 🥴
davidgro@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
I guess I assumed 'sprout' meant directly out of the ground instead of a "Brussels tree".
I don't recognize a few of the other ones.
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
They occasionally sell the Brussels sprouts on the stalk like that at the farmers market. I feel like some kind of vegetable wizard walking around with it.
Brussels sprouts, pineapple, asparagus, rice, peanuts, chocolate.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 21 pts · 332d
If that's not a coconut, what the fuck have I been eating?
Edit: Ok. The edit makes it make sense lol.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 332d
jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 332d
My preferred method is to use a half inch drill bit and a power drill.
mrsemi@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 332d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 20 pts · 332d
Processed by extracting the liquid from the pulp of the coconut...
Am I just too tired to get the joke?
mrsemi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 332d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 6 pts · 332d
It literally is the same process. 🤦♂️
mrsemi@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 332d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 332d
You're right, it is. And guess what it says?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_milk
Have you ever had a fresh coconut? They have water in them.
mrsemi@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 332d
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 332d
Rothe@piefed.social · 2 pts · 332d
Yeah, I know it is a joke and all, but coconuts doesn't have hairs or contain milk, so that particular example doesn't undermine "morphology-based phylogeny" at all.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 332d
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 332d
I lived in the US Virgin Islands as a kid. Our back yard had a seemingly endless supply of mangoes, bananas, avocado, lime, oranges (the real stuff, not the engineered shit we eat in the mainland), grapefruit, bread fruit, acerola, plantains, and pigeon peas. It wasn't even that big a yard. Shit just grows.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 332d
Have you tried a papaya growing off the roadside?
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 332d
They exist in FL and I've climbed trees to get em. I like em when they're yellow. Delicious coconut water and basically a coconut "jelly" lining. I also lived in the Caribbean my early life (2-7) so had a lot down there too, plus fresh sugarcane, guava, mangoes, and a thing we called a plum but was a small tree fruit that I also loved yellow ripeness. After a quick Google evidently called a June Plum or a hog plum. Used to eat em straight from the tree.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 332d
Also not a nut.
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 332d
It's the coco fruit
dev_null@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 332d
Of the coco tree
obstbert@feddit.org · 2 pts · 332d
From the coco palm family!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 332d
Which is not a tree.
marcos@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 332d
On related news, the salmon fish is not salmon color... And beef comes in larger packages on nature.
grue@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 332d
Why, sure it is! 😬
stray@pawb.social · 4 pts · 332d
Maybe we just disagree on what color "salmon" is, but the meat is what I would call that color. They're like flamingos in that they take on pigment from their diet. For this reason, farmed salmon will not be "salmon" color unless their diet has been supplemented with the pigment.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 332d
that looks underripe to me
(from researchgate), Maturity stages of coconut: a) young; b) early ripening; c) ripe
ameancow@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 332d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 332d
i think they're only familiar with it (edit: the overripe stuff) because they don't pay attention to their thai food. that has exploded in popularity over the last few decades and fuck yeah.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 332d
Underripe is when it's nice and full of water. Best when thirsty. Dry and ripe, best when hungry.
thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz · 6 pts · 332d
Coconuts are tropical! This is temperate zone!
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 332d
BEHOLD! THE MAMMAL! IT GIVES MILK AND HAS HAIR!
(And has venomous claws, lays eggs, has electroreceptors, glows under UV, has 10 sex chromosomes, genetically it’s a mix of reptiles and mammals…)
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 332d
sounds like average republican
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 332d
Please do not insult the platypus like that!
Dragonstaff@leminal.space · 2 pts · 332d
If the venemous claws fit.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 332d
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
but what if platypus is republican?
buttnugget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
😵
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 331d
i'm just sayin'. there are possibilities. you know the climate change, chemtrails - things get weird))
TheThrillOfTime@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 332d
Proof that God is fucking with us
Nikls94@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 332d
I tell you it’s just an Echidna that made love to a Lizard and that’s how we got the Platypus.
TomArrr@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 332d
Was the duck an innocent bystander or willing participant?
tlmcleod@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 332d
Videographer that accidentally mixed his genetic juice with the copulating couple
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 328d
It's one of twoish (one species of platypus, three of echidnas) mammals on its order (the other order which has all the more normal mammals — placental mammals) it's so different to the other mammals that really all monotremes have in common with placentals is hair and milk
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 13 pts · 332d
Ok, but chickens produce milk too, just like coconuts:
wiki/Crop_milk
Also dis:
credo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 331d
Some spiders also produce milk.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 331d
So they are coconuts.
lath@piefed.social · 11 pts · 332d
Hmm... I am a quack, therefore I duck?
artifex@piefed.social · 5 pts · 332d
Big Diogenes energy
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
I'm a little sad that everyone's focused on the coconut and missing the reference to the naked man who lives in a barell trolling the father of western philosophy.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 332d
Actually, it's about the teeth.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 332d
Yes, wiki/Vagina_dentata.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 332d
AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 332d
If it doesn't have a tail, it's not a monkey, even if it has a monkey kind of shape.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 2 pts · 332d
Apes are a kind of monkey
AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 329d
Not if they don’t have a tail.
psud@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 328d
Monkey, the order for all simians include apes. In common usage "monkey" means any simian except apes.
AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 328d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--szrOHtR6U
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 332d
I think a rabbit would be more accurate. Seeing as how a chicken has a beak. Also something cloaca
dumbass@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 332d
It's in reference to Diogenes being a dick to Plato.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 332d
Neat. I should read more
dumbass@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 332d
Just learn about Diogenes, he's awesome as fuck, hung around with a pack of wild dogs, told Alexander the great to get out of his sunlight, while laying in a pile of trash, dude did not give a fuck.
tlmcleod@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 332d
The original punk
rapchee@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 332d
in ancient greece, they asked a philosopher, "what is a man?". he said "a featherless, bipedal creature". and then diogenes entered the scene
hayvan@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 332d
That philosopher was Plato.
Leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 331d
And then everybody clapped
Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz · -3 pts · 332d