I wish this was an inflated title but no, he really said this.
America, you need to get rid of this asshole ASAP.
Source: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115460423936412555
Thanks @notarobot@lemmy.zip
Trump Commands War Department to Test Nuclear Weapons
119 Comments
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 85 pts · 293d
And he's doing this while the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) is furloughed... đ§
BingBong@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 293d
The labs which design, test, and build them are not furloughed. Only the federal oversight.
SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 293d
You mean the labs funded by Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation money? That just got raided to pay the troops?
BingBong@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 293d
Go check. Their employees are not furloughed.
paperazzi@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 293d
He's been itching to nuke something since his first term. Hurricanes, he suggested at one point. And Americans voted him into office twice. Fucking morons.
Catma@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 292d
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 292d
Some Americans voted for him 3 times!
Seriously, imagine how fucking dumb you would have to be to fill out three separate ballots over nearly a decade voting for a failed reality TV star.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
Now imagine those who want to not have to vote anymore and let him run forever
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 291d
so far...
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 292d
usa is cooked as usual
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 293d
Is he unstable enough for the 25th amendment yet? Asking for a friend.
isaaclw@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 293d
He's been unstable enough for that, for 9 years
IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
He's currently in his stable genius arc so we're out of luck.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 293d
Can someone just tell him no one else has nuclear fusion power stations yet but (china|EU|Russia) are close and how much money it would make.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 293d
It would make money at a country level, but does it fill his personal wallets like the oil industry?
So it's worthless for him
youngGoku@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Yup. He doesn't care about this country.
tmyakal@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 293d
It only matters if it makes money for him. Someone wealthy and interested in cracking nuclear fusion would need to be giving him a payout.
freebee@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 293d
Build it in mar a Lago and pay some rent
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 38 pts · 293d
Ah, the "I had no choice!" argument for scaling up world tension. Yeah, we've never heard that one before. Hitler also "had no choice" but to invade Sudetenland, Austria and Poland.
The "we had no choice" argument is always used to take the victim role as an excuse to justify anything you like. Whether it is joining wars because they sank your illegal weapons shipment hidden in an ocean liner, invading a country because you made it look like they sank your ship, invade a country because a few terrorists attacked your country, invade a country because you claim there might be weapons of mass destruction, send troops and chemical weapons to a dictatorial regime because the freedom fighters threaten your overseas naval base, invade a country for denazification, commit ethnic cleansing, genocide and other horrible war crimes because some terrorist extremists attacked your country after years and years of oppression and apartheid, etc etc etc. There are so many examples in history where this tactic has been used. The entire cold war thrived on this bullshit argument "look at them, I have no choice".
"I'm going to do something bad, so I find a way to justify it."
kingofras@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 293d
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 9 pts · 293d
???
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 293d
It's supposed to say alleged, now it's censored to say aged.
I think it's a good play on words, tbh, as the alleged part is mostly used to legally cover what is widely known. An innocent person wouldn't cover up the Epstein list as voraciously as he has.
And he is very very old, therefore aged.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 3 pts · 292d
Thanks! And "No ââking" does the same. Kinda funny, kinda clever.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
This comes up every time they post this stupid image.
There's way better Epstein memes
TRock@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 293d
It's wrong to say alleged, and aged fits better for this wrinkly orange
Klear@quokk.au · 1 pts · 293d
Fuck censorship.
ripcord@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 293d
Post a better meme
RattlerSix@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 293d
One can never be sure what President Brain Worms is talking about but I'm pretty sure Obama started a ten year plan to modernize our nuclear forces early in his presidency.
nexguy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 293d
No doubt but it would not include a detonation test. I think 1000 tests was enough.
machenni@procial.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 293d
@RattlerSix@lemmy.world @MuskyMelon@lemmy.world I might have to add President Brain Worms to my list of "pet" names for the orange man.
rayyy@piefed.social · 33 pts · 292d
Just shows he is desperately trying to create many more distractions from the Epstein files to see what works.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 292d
This is horrifying. Like, mind-bogglingly bad.
It's also a blatant lie. Other countries are not testing nuclear weapons, they're running simulations. We didn't do that in the 60s because it wasn't possible, but the US (and presumably China/Russia) literally have giant supercomputers for this purpose now.
...And we would know if they were doing real testing because it would show up on seismographs.
But who cares about truth? Or sanity? No, all my relatives (even scientifically minded ones) won't even bat an eye, lest some Democrat steal their retirement, ugh.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 292d
Trumplethinskin is too stupid to understand any of that . He desperately wants to to be the one to trigger a spectacular overreaction and turn another country into glass.
#smallcarrotproblems
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 6 pts · 292d
and any surface tests would show up on sattelites
nekbardrun@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
Good time to remind that, in all History, only one country used nuclear bombs in a war.
Twice!
For "Research Purposes" (TM)
TommySoda@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 293d
And who, exactly, is going to get paid to do that? Last I saw 75% of them were furloughed at the moment.
fonix232@fedia.io · 11 pts · 293d
Don't worry, there will be a company popping up tied to some Republicunts who'll do the testing for "cheap".
jaaake@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 293d
https://futurism.com/science-energy/trump-altman-plutonium-oklo
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 6 pts · 293d
doG help us all:
He really is hellbent on literally destroying America for money.
However
So I hope this makes the rounds and steps are taken against it soon.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 292d
Look, I hate the guy too. However, this probably isn't bad. Nuclear energy is incredibly safe, and clean. If he wants to use some of his money to build out nuclear power then I'm fine with that. It will almost certainly never make up for the damage done by "AI" but it's better than not having it.
BakerBagel@midwest.social · 4 pts · 292d
You don't use weapons grade plutonium for nuclear reactors
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 292d
Incorrect. That's the purpose of this.
https://interestingengineering.com/energy/plutonium-into-nuclear-reactor-fuel-us
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 292d
We get that. But instead of controling the process he's literally selling off weapons grade plutonium to shady, megalomaniac tech bros as I stated before.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 292d
He's literally selling off weapons grade plutonium to shady, megalomaniac tech bros. That leaves very little wiggle room for concern trolling and you're way off the mark.
But the article implies that it isn't a done deal until the end of the year (I'm not sure I got that right though), so it's not too late to protest, raise awareness.
CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
I'm NGL If my job put in the position to be the one testing nukes it would be very tempting to do so even without pay just on a 'oonga boonga big boom' basis. Unfortunately I'm educated enough to know how awful that is for the environment, also not a nuclear test engineer or whatever the job title even is.
flying_gel@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 293d
President of peace.
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Express Lane to heaven.
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 293d
ffs we're still in 2025 man.
Rakonat@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 293d
Unless I'm mistaken Russia has way more nukes than the US still.
brahn@piefed.social · 23 pts · 293d
aarRJaay@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 293d
Why would any country need that many? I mean having any is stupid because it will always end in mutually assured destruction but with that many, you could kill us all if you were on the verge of one hitting you.
Rakonat@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 293d
Stupid, legacy calculus but calculus none the less. During the Cold war both sides recognized that a direct or near direct hit on a launch site could potentially negate any chance for retribution or follow up attacks in an otherwise limited/not all out scenario. So they counted the delivery mechanism they could identify, did some multiplication to account for misses and defenses and came up with a number. Then the other side noticed the build up, comes up with same general calculus and runs the same general math to decide how many they need. And this the goes back and forth for decades where each side is building up counters to their rivals counters. And the numbers we have now are actually a reduction from the peak of the Cold war build up.
pupbiru@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 292d
thankfully we at least halted that trend for a while with early warning systems: no longer launch all your nukes and you might take out all of theirs⌠launch all your nukes and by the time they arrive the retaliatory ICBMS will be 5min from hitting their own targets; likely right on top of you⌠launch an ICBM and youâre fucked
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
It is mutually-assured destruction. The idea is that there are enough nukes to end all life on earth. Because if there are that many nukes, then nobody would ever use them.
Thatâs how the US and USSR came up with these figures when they were disarming at the end of the Cold War.
sucius@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
does anyone know how many of those are operational?
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 292d
No, and we probably never will. The Russian government certainly doesn't. When the invasion of Ukraine proper started, a lot of their equipment failed or was missing, and the military wasn't aware. It had been sold off or just not maintained by the people in charge of it.
I'm certain the same thing has happened with the nuclear arsenal. The only time it will be used is if you already lost, so what's the point in spending money on keeping it operational over just having the appearance of it being operational. Your enemy can't know the difference (especially if you don't) and it'd be bad to bet on it failing, so it serves exactly the same purpose regardless.
brahn@piefed.social · 1 pts · 292d
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
Your probably not and Trump is definitely an idiot.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 1 pts · 293d
Yes but in what condition? AFAIK most of them are from Cold War times and the Kremlin deliberately suppresses any information on the state they're in.
So, America can destroy earth 100-fold, but Russia can destroy it 110-fold - at least until one of them backfires.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 291d
pointless counting. all they need each is a dozen.
greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 292d
Why? They work... We checked.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 11 pts · 292d
Orange Don wants to make sure he can launch them the next time someone calls him names, without anyone being able to stop him
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 292d
Even if it wasn't for the other million reasons, this guy's grammar alone should disqualify him from having the nuclear codes.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 292d
Secured safely in the bathroom of his golf course.
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 292d
A giant waste of money. 800 nukes is plenty for pretty much anything and launching 100 would probably mean the end of life as we know it on planet earth. If you wanted to blow a bunch of money on the military there are better ways to do it.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
sefra1@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 292d
True, but don't tell them that, it's better if they waste money on useless nuclears than genocide technology.
Zink@programming.dev · 2 pts · 292d
Ohh we got you fam.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 292d
Do you mean 100 all at once? Because weâve been averaging 26.5 per year for the last 80 years
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 292d
Hmm I don't think so. If it is true those are over the ocean or something. I mean an attack with 100 missiles would destroy nearly any country. Russia is especially vulnerable because they only have a couple of cities with any population in them. Modern nukes are 50-75x the yield of the ones they dropped on Japan. There are all kinds of externalities. They can poison the ground water for generations. They can kill any life feeding in the area. They can cause fallout which is like a radioactive dust cloud covering everything. It isn't good.
Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 290d
Do you want me to link the wiki article? Weâve exploded 2121 nukes since 1945
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_weapons_tests
Does the ocean not count as the earth? I donât see how you go from exploding 100 nukes will end all life on earth to over the ocean doesnât matter
Also, does 1962 count as modern for you?
DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 290d
You are misunderstanding what I wrote. I'm aware that setting nukes off over the ocean won't end all life in earth. I never said that tho and you might have me mixed up with someone else. I said that it will end life as we know it and it absolutely will, setting nukes off over cities will cause radioactive fallout, as well as destroy power grids, the internet infrastructure. It will poison the water. You have to also remember that it will short out the hundreds of nuclear power plants potentially leading to meltdowns, unless they are fail safe designs. I don't think most plants are designed to withstand an emp. Either way a nuclear war would likely mean a reset for human civilization. If you don't believe this then I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 292d
The real crazy people who would cause a nuclear wae are israel and the usa leaders not Iran
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 292d
lol imagine simping for the irgc
mrdown@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 292d
I am not simping. Iran isn't seeking nukes by american admission. I never justified Iran human right abuses.
CptOblivius@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 292d
Choose one...global warming or nuclear winter. I think that is our futures only options.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 7 pts · 292d
There's always the mass-extinction asteroid option to look forward to.
DBT@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 292d
Testing for what exactly? Do we not know enough about them already?
Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 292d
Primative chest pounding. He has to prove his chest makes a bigger sound. Or his nuke is bigger than their dick.
Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 292d
Gotta keep them hurricanes scared.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 291d
Cognition. He needs to show he's smarter than a warhead.
notarobot@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 293d
I can't believe no one posted the source. Not even op
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115460423936412555
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 293d
Sorry. Will try to do better next time.
notarobot@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 293d
All good. Remember that this kind of apocalyptic events should not spread as heresay to avoid things getting twisted, cofused, people claiming its fake. Etc
xorollo@leminal.space · 2 pts · 292d
Wow I've never been to truth social before. I had a pop up add for a necklace with sand Jesus walked on, pillows and towels and a trump elf on a shelf.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 10 pts · 293d
We would try, but the mods silence us talking about it.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 293d
Sorry, could you expand on that a bit? Whoâs silencing you and why?
kn33@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 293d
Any suggestion of effective tactics to remove the president are met with removal.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 293d
I havenât seen it on .world, but on shitworks they kill any suggestion that violence may be necessary to end the hostile foreign takeover of USA govt.
tornavish@lemmy.cafe · 14 pts · 293d
Donald Trump should be killed by the people of the United States, and that killing is not a crime because it is self-defense. This comment will be removed
freebee@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 293d
If there is an impeachment (meaning Congress/Senate actually doing their jobs), followed by imprisonment, meanwhile new free elections and finally a trial... If the trial reaches the conclusion the death penalty is what he should get for his crimes, "the US people killing Trump" would be completely legal in any sense of the word and to any foreign, independent observer. People have gotten legal death penalties for much less and in way more dubious circumstances in the USA in rather recent times...
kingofras@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
When are the shitjustworks guys going to realise this just doesnât work. These are all rules we already tried to follow, and he keeps making things worse for everyone, while lying and enriching soulless sycophants daily.
The US democracy doesnât have that kind of time. The people donât have that kind of time. The climate and the planet and all of humanity donât have that kind of time.
He declared war on everything we stand for. At what point do we just say fuck the rules, off with his head, itâs gone too far?
Youâre still debating, and intellectualising this. It is not a debate if youâre snatched off the street, an unpaid govt worker, or his political foes.
Think of 3 more really unthinkable borderline illegal things he could do. He will have done 3 of those in the next half year. The incrementalism is how these types win. It must end.
freebee@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 292d
I don't follow USA politics to every detail: has there been an impeachment attempt? Problem is not me intellectualising, it's representatives of the people: Congress & senate, not doing their jobs. Their job is not being a yes person to the president. It's representing the people. The culture where they are headless chicken was installed long before trump. Yet they and their institutions are the way to end this properly, cleanly and with enough representative power so it does not lead to civil war. The president needs to seek approval of Congress for policy, not the other way around. Some random murder in the street scenario is a recipe for disaster for everyone. It creates an enormous power vacuum. The Congress way avoids that. It is the least worrying path this can go down...
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 293d
Naturally. Lemmyâs on the hook, but particularly the relevant instances, if someone pops off and it appears poor moderation was the cause. Comment removal after 95% of potential readers have already read it, and no ban? Thatâs about as good as you can get. This place is plenty militant enough
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 293d
Have you tried posting on an instance that is not hosted in the US?
Maybe not straight up assassination, but there's plenty options that are perfectly legal in most countries. At the very least legal to talk about.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 292d
Dumbass probably watched a movie and was like duuuuh that looks cool lolz...
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 292d
He's going to look at one directly, just like he did with the eclipse.
Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 292d
We donât need an another hero.
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 293d
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 293d
I can literally hear Trump saying it.
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 292d
don't indulge his bullshit attempt to rename the DOD
notarobot@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 291d
You have to. He didn't start weapons testing for defense he's going to go into war and take the offensive
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 7 pts · 292d
Are any other countries actually actively testing nuclear weapons?
(I don't think North Korea counts/is.)
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 292d
Not really. We know they work.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 292d
IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 291d
Someone distract Gramps with shiny ballroom pictures again.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 292d
Are they trying to figure out what the expiration date is on nuclear warheads? The fuq are they still needing to test for?
Let's just blow up our arsenal for the heck of it boyz, it will make for a good twitter post!
biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 292d
As if nuking Russia would help. They have the Dead-Hand system. No one wins here.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 292d
If itâs anything like the rest of their military equipment, Iâm not too worried about it.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 292d
Given the dead-hand policy, that's easily the most dangerous mindset I've read on Lemmy.
It should make you more worried, lest faulty equipment leads to another incident like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Soviet_nuclear_false_alarm_incident
And we don't have someone like Stanislav Petrov literally risking his neck to save civilization.
oppy1984@lemdro.id · 2 pts · 292d
I used to listen to a podcast from Latvia that reported on the war in Ukraine, I can't remember the name of the show, sorry. The guy seemed to be very knowledgeable about Russia and one thing he stressed was while the Russian military was corrupt and inept, the troops involved with nukes were still highly educated and hand picked and trained by people from within the corps.
biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 291d
So you want to play nuclear poker ? Hey can anyone send this guy to Ukraine.
Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 292d
That guy is an absolute fud! He sees some other moron do it, and thinks he has to do it too so he looks "alpha"... Talk about your beta bitches, jesus christ.
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 292d
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 291d
This dumbass couldnât tell you what nuclear testing was if you explained it to him like he was 5
pigup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 291d
"I don't give a fuck, something racist, several n words. It's gonna help me stay in power and that's all I care about and the only thing that matters." - child rapist president dump
kingofras@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
Seeing how he likes to demolish parts of the White House perhaps the first test could be on the West Wing, with him being in the Oval Office?
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 292d
We have the technology, the time is now to blow up the moon, children are our future.
https://youtu.be/GTJ3LIA5LmA
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Unfortunately, we do not in fact have the technology necessary to blow up the Moon.
Meowie_Gamer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
i cannot stop laughing at this i dont know why
Zeon@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 292d
Why does he capitalize random words?
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 292d
Heâs old and his last bout of formative education predates most of our parentsâ lives.
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 291d
We call this an eye for an eye approach and it will continue until the whole world is blind...
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 292d
Don't post images of text. Copy and paste it.