The engineer is already long dead, so it's arguably switched from alien to corpse. There are a bunch of other eggs/ovomorphs on the derelict, but only one hatches and attacks John Hurt, so without sequel media (Aliens/Alien Isolation) showing that other eggs were still viable, they could be argued to be maybe-dead, too. Even accepting that they're viable eggs, counting them as aliens is counting your chickens before they've hatched, which is inadvisable enough that there's an idiom about it.
If you're saying the facehugger and the adult xenomorph are different creatures, then that's ridiculous, as it's clearly closer to being a larva, and plenty of real creatures have a child stage that doesn't resemble the adult stage at all and where a big mass of tissue is discarded when transitioning into adulthood.
Ridiculous might be a strong word for a fictional creature, but if we found the corpse of a bipedal extraterrestrial on the surface of Mars, would you be unwilling to call that thing an alien?
Perhaps not, but I'd not give it equal prominance in a news report or a movie adaptation if it was next to a living one, and I wouldn't do anything else silly like claim a billion aliens had been found because it had gut flora.
Ooh, I missed that part. Is it an actual infection or an imagined one like the rest of Yarnham though? There are multiple that are being misdiagnosed, like how the confederates are imagining "Vermin"
On the opposite end of the scale, I enjoy that Steven Seagal manages to make films with extremely generic names that still manage to be incorrect. Contract to Kill contained no contracts whatsoever. A Good Man didn't feature a single positive male role model. Nobody was pistol whipped in Pistol Whipped. Submerged technically did have a submarine segment but it was only about 5% of the film.
I guess Shitty Action Film Starring Out-Of-Shape Psychopathic Pedo doesn't market too well
I only read them as a child but I don't think the Centre of the Earth expedition reached its namesake. Also, it's 20,000 leagues (50,000 miles) under the sea.
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Gork@sopuli.xyz · 85 pts · 303d
Alien
Aliens
shalafi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 302d
I remember Aliens coming out and people shitting kittens, "There's going to be more than one of them?!"
Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 302d
Was that their response to the movie, or the kittens?
shalafi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 301d
Response before watching. Response during was when kittens were shat.
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 301d
There was a cat in the movie. I didn't watch the sequel, did it reproduce?
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 302d
Made me think of Scott Pilgrim. "Break out the L word." "Lesbian?" "The other L word." "Lesbians?"
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 302d
Is that really more accurate than you would expect though?
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 302d
while not a showy response... yes
I wouldn't expect the plurality of the title to accurately reflect the number of aliens in the movie, tbh
J92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 302d
I understand the point that there are more Aliens in Aliens than in alien, but there is more than one Alien in Alien.
So it's not super accurate.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 302d
I guess my memory is off. I thought the first movie was just the one. been a while since I watched it
J92@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 301d
Well theres the dead pilot (space jockey), and the collection of eggs, then theres the offending face hugger and then the resulting adult Xenomorph.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 301d
...so it is just one adult Alien? (not counting facehuggers) lol
now I'm just curious
J92@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 301d
Singular of the second-mouth, skull-punchy sort, yeah.
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 301d
The engineer is already long dead, so it's arguably switched from alien to corpse. There are a bunch of other eggs/ovomorphs on the derelict, but only one hatches and attacks John Hurt, so without sequel media (Aliens/Alien Isolation) showing that other eggs were still viable, they could be argued to be maybe-dead, too. Even accepting that they're viable eggs, counting them as aliens is counting your chickens before they've hatched, which is inadvisable enough that there's an idiom about it.
If you're saying the facehugger and the adult xenomorph are different creatures, then that's ridiculous, as it's clearly closer to being a larva, and plenty of real creatures have a child stage that doesn't resemble the adult stage at all and where a big mass of tissue is discarded when transitioning into adulthood.
J92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 301d
Ridiculous might be a strong word for a fictional creature, but if we found the corpse of a bipedal extraterrestrial on the surface of Mars, would you be unwilling to call that thing an alien?
"This isn't an alien. It's dead."
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 301d
Perhaps not, but I'd not give it equal prominance in a news report or a movie adaptation if it was next to a living one, and I wouldn't do anything else silly like claim a billion aliens had been found because it had gut flora.
J92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 301d
Equal prominence is a bit of a side step, and i never mentioned a living one next to it.
Also I'm fairly sure any biologist would be claiming each distinct species found within the alien as being new discoveries also.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 302d
Snakes on a Plane was pretty self-explanatory.
OopsOverbombing@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 302d
Ah yes. A movie so bad it was good.
"Time to get these mother fuckin snakes off this mother fuckin plane!" I enjoy dropping that line with no context occasionally.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 302d
"I'm tired of these mother-father snakes on this Monday to Friday plane!" ~TV edit
A7thStone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 301d
I thought it was monkey fighting snakes in the TV edit.
chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 301d
It might've been. Been a long time since I've heard it.
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 37 pts · 302d
I remember watching the credits roll on my first viewing of Everything, Everywhere, All at Once, and thinking, "It really was."
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 302d
I hardly remember the movie but I do remember having a very similar moment afterwards.
EisFrei@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 303d
The joy of painting
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 303d
Bloodborne (there is much blood and multiple plot-centric babies. Surprisingly few pathogens)
Stamau123@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 302d
The player character is in yharnam because their village needs a cure for a blood infection. It's never brought up again, but it's there
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 302d
Ooh, I missed that part. Is it an actual infection or an imagined one like the rest of Yarnham though? There are multiple that are being misdiagnosed, like how the confederates are imagining "Vermin"
Wait how did you find out about the foreigner?
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 303d
And such a good game. First FromSoft game that I ever played and I fell in love.
Nythos@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 302d
If only they would release it on PC and up the frame rate.
Bosht@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 302d
I really hope it happens at some point because I've lusted for that game for a while and I'm not buying a whole ass console for one damn game.
FerretyFever0@fedia.io · 13 pts · 303d
Lego Star Wars.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 302d
The Lego movie even more so.
A7thStone@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 302d
Dark City
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 301d
On the opposite end of the scale, I enjoy that Steven Seagal manages to make films with extremely generic names that still manage to be incorrect. Contract to Kill contained no contracts whatsoever. A Good Man didn't feature a single positive male role model. Nobody was pistol whipped in Pistol Whipped. Submerged technically did have a submarine segment but it was only about 5% of the film.
I guess Shitty Action Film Starring Out-Of-Shape Psychopathic Pedo doesn't market too well
toynbee@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 303d
Couldn't "The Thing" describe most movies?
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 302d
But The Thing had The Thing in it.
toynbee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 302d
In my experience, most movies have things in them. Admittedly horrifying mutating dogs are less common.
altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 302d
Raw, the movie, seemed pretty undercooked when it came to the ending.
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 302d
Big booty Latinas. Very on brand
meathorse@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 302d
12 Angry Men
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 3 pts · 302d
But the plot point was that one was never angry. Or was the twelfth one supposed to be the accused?
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 301d
Journey to the centre of the earth
Around the world in 80 days
12,000 leagues under the sea
Pretty much all of Jules Verne ( I think. I only know 3)
ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 3 pts · 301d
I only read them as a child but I don't think the Centre of the Earth expedition reached its namesake. Also, it's 20,000 leagues (50,000 miles) under the sea.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 5 pts · 302d
Truman's Show
Glytch@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 302d
Truman's ShowThe Truman ShowIt didn't belong to Truman at all, that was part of the point.
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 302d
I blame title localization :P
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 302d
Run Lola Run