Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)
On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130
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SmokeyDope@piefed.social · 84 pts · 286d
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 286d
It would be so funny if someone hacks the site and only changes that, and nobody notices for weeks...
Xylight@lemdro.id · 52 pts · 286d
Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus
dabster291@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 286d
Not to mention most Grokipedia pages are straight copied from Wikipedia!
TheMadCodger@piefed.social · 20 pts · 286d
Didn't there used to be conservapedia that was just Wikipedia but edited to match their imagined reality?
SmokeyDope@piefed.social · 27 pts · 286d
... I really hoped that this wasn't a thing, but im not surprised in the least.
Its just fucking painful, man.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 286d
That site is bugfuck nuts, and not just because I disagree with most conservative positions. Bug. Fuck. Nuts.
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 286d
Tge thing with conservapedia is Poe's law makes it impossible to moderate. A conservative (heh) estimate is that 70% of that site is trolling.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 285d
i remember i randomly found this while i was on a searxng instance.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 286d
What's with his obession with the name "grok" though? Sounds like the sound frog made
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 48 pts · 286d
It's from a book I love, Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 286d
That's really funny. He steals the name Tesla and Grok and when he tries to come up with his own names, we get "X" and "X Æ A-Xii"
Soggy@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 286d
All the tech fascists steal words. Palantir is from Lord of the Rings.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 285d
Which infuriates me as a LotR fan.
and also makes me side eye Chris Tolkien hard, cause he is normally very aggressive in protecting the intellectual property..
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 285d
Palantirs were prominently used by Sauron to corrupt and manipulate weaker-willed users, so I have to admit it's a really apropos use of the name.
kandoh@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 285d
And Apple is a fruit smh
MrMukagee@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 285d
A biblical reference to the fruit of the tree of knowledge and how man took a bite of the fruit (but not acknowledging that it was woman who took the first bite)
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 285d
those are also names of his SONS, whom he doesnt really care about, just to name them, and he has a breeder fetish.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 286d
I do not sense a wrongness in your post so I will not disappear you. :)
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 286d
Share water, brother!
SmokeyDope@piefed.social · 4 pts · 286d
Your thirst is mine, my water is yours! ... Oh shit, wrong sci-fi world I think my bad
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 286d
What an obscure reach to make.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 286d
It's been part of deep nerd culture for decades, but not really pop culture.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 285d
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 286d
Maybe he overheard it from somewhere.
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 286d
I believe it is from the book stranger in a strange land. Its meaning is like to deeeeply understand, I think.
Lemminary@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 286d
That's fucking hilarious for an LLM.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 285d
Not deeply but completely and absolutely.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 286d
You got the original explanation, but grok was taken up by computer nerds way back in the day. It's not merely understanding a thing, in the book or the slang. To grok means to completely wrap your head around the subject, not merely surface level understanding, really feel it down deep.
As to Musk's obsession? He wants to be seen as the cool kid, the smart hacker, the guy who groks what's really going on.
Honestly it's a great name for a search engine or AI. And now he's actively ruining it like everything else he touches.
BTW, Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent book. I laugh when people call Heinlein a fascist for writing Starship Troopers. "So, how about that hippie book?" Heinlein's books examine various government and economic systems, "What if it worked this way?"
Rooty@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 285d
Media literacy is at an all time low, especially among terminally online "activists".
cv_octavio@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 286d
athairmor@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 286d
I fully expect the SCO case to be resurrected at some point in this timeline. Then they’ll know.
LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 286d
Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is "grok". My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon's AI.
Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 285d
I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which "grok" is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 285d
It's a Heinlein - "stranger in a strange land" concept. It sort of spread out in nerdery from there where it meant you know and you're in the know.
To know is to understand fully sort of. He's doing the literal opposite which is a bit 1984 of him and is also likely another book he's read and didn't understand or at least had pretended to have read.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 285d
trying to be an edgy almost teenager.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 285d
grok = caveman?
Elgenzay@lemmy.ml · 28 pts · 286d
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 286d
Funny how the "voting irregularities" magically disappeared when he won.
pivot_root@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 286d
A thief doesn't loudly announce that they just stole something.
SmokeyDope@piefed.social · 5 pts · 286d
"Yeah, I mean who even does that, right?" nervously side eyes Garrett from the Thief Series with his occasional cool ass one-liners
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 285d
and not mentioning that elon himself, said he was going to get charged for interfering with the election if Harris won.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 286d
They forgot the quotes on "fact checked" and maybe a wink emoji at the end of that sentence
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 285d
It was fact-checked to remove all actual facts from it.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 285d
Prior criminal convictions matter to you, eh, Elon? You know Trump has 34 of them, right?
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 285d
If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.
Billionaires: "No, No.. I can't be wrong. I'm Rich! I'll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I'm right!"
Conservapedia: Wait..thats what I was for.. what about me?!
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 285d
johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 285d
Reality has a well known liberal bias
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 285d
Ah yes, the reality of the genocide in Gaza has a liberal bias. That sounds accurate...
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 284d
I do wonder sometimes if the better soundbite is "bullshit has a conservative bias"
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 285d
According to liberals.
Mwa@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 285d
true,they lean neutral.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 285d
They lean centre right
echodot@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 285d
It just lists facts. You go on there and try putting on a political opinion that isn't actually facts based you'll be shut down within seconds.
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 285d
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 285d
I've often said that liberals treat Wikipedia as Holy Scripture, and your comment is exactly that: an assertion that a particular work provides direct access to revelatory Truth. That anything it states is inherently "fact".
Every holy book is "just a list of facts" to its believers.
echodot@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 285d
Well it says the earth is a sphere so I guess I get where you're coming from. The problem is you haven't actually provided any evidence to your claim that it's some kind of evil liberal bias.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 285d
I'll bet Grokipedia states the earth is a sphere too. Does it also "just list facts"?
I also don't see you providing any evidence for your claim that Wikipedia "just lists facts".
Nalivai@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 285d
The evidence for it is Wikipedia itself. If you have a concrete example of it siting something demonstrably wrong, bring it up, we can examine it here and if you are right, even fix it.
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 285d
So you're doing the classic thing of putting the burden of responsibility for your ridiculous claim on to somebody else to disprove. A classic sign of somebody not arguing in good faith.
How can I prove that Wikipedia only lists facts since any evidence that I present, you will immediately disregard as untrue because of your preconceived bias.
I want you to link to any article, on any subject matter on Wikipedia (in English so we can actually read it, I know that trick) that proves your claim of bias. I genuinely don't believe you will be able to because if you could provide this evidence, you would have linked to it in your original comment.
Your holy scripture arguement doesn't work because Wikipedia isn't a fixed source of stated reality, it's a constantly changing constantly updated website. We know the Bible isn't objective reality because we've had it for a very long time and have been able to test it against known historical accounts, and they don't match up. Wikipedia on the other hand is updated millions of times a day. Even if an article had some bias, by the end of the first day that bias would have been corrected by someone who didn't like the bias. But you're stating that there is a deep rooted institutional bias. I'd like you to indicate it please.
shalafi@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 286d
So why didn't Conservapedia take off? If it's unbiased truth, no liberal agenda, it should have blown Wikipedia out of the water a decade ago. Funny that.
Mniot@programming.dev · 3 pts · 285d
Conservapedia was comically stupid. Like, there was a lengthy diatribe against the Theory of Relativity that seemed largely based off Andrew Schlafly confusing the Physics term "relativity" with "moral relativity" and being against the latter. This was especially weird because Schlafly personally had a background in applied physics and so ought to know that GPS satellites serve as a proof of some of Relativity.
As embarrassing as basically every page of Conservapedia was, at least it represented some stupid man's beliefs and effort. Grokipedia can't even do that.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 13 pts · 286d
"We have compiled the largest website full of absolute bullshit and stupidity to compete against the largest compendium of real human knowledge."
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 285d
That dipshit really doesn't have any understanding of what the word grok actually means.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 285d
Tbf, I never thought it meant anything
codemankey@programming.dev · 6 pts · 285d
Somebody (Robert Heinlein) made it up in a book (Stranger in a Strange Land).
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 284d
It means to understand something at a fundamental level
buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 284d
Close. It means to understand a thing or person so completely that you and it/they become one.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 286d
"Elon invented the airplane."
frog_brawler@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 285d
lavander@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 285d
No, the articles are reliably allucinated by Grok… with a sprinkle of editing for making sure the echo chamber is air tight
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de · -3 pts · 285d
Elon is one thing, but the Grok developers have recently done a surprisingly good job at making it neutral and unbiased in matters of opinion, but also allowing it to tell people they're wrong in matters of fact, which is why there's so many screenshots around of conspiracy theorists getting shut down by it.
I can't say whether this will be the same, but if the devs take "without bias" to actually mean "without bias," rather than what Elon intends it to mean, it could actually be somewhat useful to filter out obvious promotional content and any small levels of bias.
SSUPII@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 285d
It instead is 100% to repeat what Elon wants you to believe