I always felt bad for the service dogs that had to walk around with bare paws in the chemistry building at university. There’s no telling what kinda stuff tracks around the halls out of labs on peoples shoes. Especially the ochem labs.
TIL animals may be allowed in chemistry labs. But then again, still remember my professor's being very clear that mouth pipetting is bad idea, to then show us how to do it just in case.
My chem teacher was also the lab instructor. He would talk about how gloves are important because of the permeability of human skin. Then next lab would put a drop of dcm on his hand. Still not sure why he did that. Maybe he was illustrating it having a fairly low vapor pressure¿
I will say this is not enough PPE for a dog, especially if you're doing acid titrations or something, I can't imagine HCL is easy to get out of fur but it might give the dog a while before skin contact
I would imagine that there isn't anything hazardous to that degree. I studied biochemistry, and I can think of a lot of different research areas that would include minimally hazardous materials (e.g. phosphate buffer)
I didn't do biochemistry but I've just been taking chem 2 this semester and we've used HCL for maybe 3 or 4 labs, I dunno. I think the biggest issue though is that the dog is immediately below the table, presumably at her owners legs and In the splash zone
For all I know, service dogs primarily help blind people or those with severe mental health issues.
The former must make working in a lab near impossible as most things are observed visually and also making an organized spot for a blind researcher must require thorough preparation and heavy assistance for every experiment. The latter might behave unpredictably, which doesn't pair well with a lab environment, and might prompt the dog to rush to support without minding the environment, amplifying the issue.
Also, dog is an animal, and while they can be trained to behave well, they are unlikely to remember all safety rules, especially in a critical situation where they need to focus on aiding the owner.
I might be wrong by all points, since I didn't ever see service dogs in a lab environment, and don't commonly see them around, but I come from a point of genuine interest.
Could be an Alert Dog. I have e a neighbor with one, the Dog's job is "Be a Dog unless daddy is about to go into diabetic shock, then calmly alert until someone does something."
Not all service dogs have super big jobs, some are just like organic blood tests.
Food source servant is dying. There’s probably another food source servant available so meh. In the meantime the food source servant can be eaten while I wait.
There are many people who are very blind but not completely so (e.g. really can't see anything at a distance). They may be able to operate well in a lab environment.
There are people whose mental health issues are rare or can often be prevented with a service animal. Their "breakdowns" are likely not destructive anyway, so no real risk to the lab itself.
Service animals also sometimes help to warn that someone is about to have a seizure, so they can go somewhere safe.
I had a friend whose service animal was trained to get her pill container from her purse or bag and bring it to her if she collapsed or otherwise called for them. Not sure what they were, never really asked or talked about it since she never initiated the topic but it was apparently sufficiently life threatening if she were to lose stability in a manner where she couldn’t take her medicine shortly after. I only really knew because there were some rooms her service animal was not authorized to enter and I would fulfill that role for her in those situations.
I knew to go retrieve the bottle bag for her, I never asked what was in it and she didn’t offer. It was I little Velcro bag that had long cloth things on either end for her service dog to pick up with his mouth from either side to pull out of her purse or bag so I never saw the actual pill bottle(s). Just a quick, if something goes down I need you to grab this bag for me and shove it into my right hand. I said you got it and that was kind of the end of it. Guess I figured if she wanted to talk about it more she would have initiated a discussion. She always got questions and pestering about her service dog being around as it was already so I kind of felt like being a good friend to her was just being someone that was there for her without all the questions. I haven’t talked to her in years though so maybe not, idk.
No hate intended, I promise, but I will never understand why people react to seeing any dog as if it were their first time seeing a dog. I'm glad we have them, and I'm so grateful for service animals in particular, I just don't understand the hyper-fixation.
I've worked in enough laboratories to know how ridiculous this is. Leave the dog outside of the room. You can kill the thing with fumes and spills. Even in an undergrad class this is still so reckless.
Whatever you have the dog for is less important than the dog's health. This PPE is pointless and ridiculous.
Yeah.... That's just unnecessary to put a dog at risk like that, whether service or otherwise.
Also, don't work in a lab by yourself. Have a buddy, even if all they do is sit in a corner and scroll on their phone. Have someone there in case something happens.
In the best case, you've maybe wasted some of their time. In the worst case, at least you'll have company in quarantine.
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gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 79 pts · 275d
Beacon@fedia.io · 47 pts · 275d
He's just like me!
PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space · 34 pts · 275d
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 275d
Just like my ochem lab partner. We just huffed diethyl ether on the sly and tried not to fuck up too much.
_edge@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 274d
PhD candidate
Duallight@lemmy.today · 38 pts · 275d
So the Lab needs lab gear while in the lab?
slampisko@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 275d
It's lab lab gear.
flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 274d
Where's xzibit when you need him?
GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 274d
This is just regular lab safety
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 32 pts · 275d
It's fucked up that service dogs are the dogs you most want to pet, but you shouldn't
RandomStickman@fedia.io · 29 pts · 275d
Do they also need little boots because no open toes?
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 274d
Absolutely they do
bryndos@fedia.io · 2 pts · 275d
https://itsalwayssunny.fandom.com/wiki/Kitten_Mittens
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 274d
Meeeow
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 274d
Cute? Cute?!
A BSc, MSc and PhD and THAT'S your reaction?! Cute?!
Sir, that is a scientist!
Respect the coat! The soft, fluffy coat!
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 274d
Awwww, such a respectable boi!
::boops hims respectable snooooot::
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 274d
That’s Dr Respectable Boi, hims didn’t get a phd to just be a respectable boi
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 274d
Many apologies Dr. Cutey patooty!
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 274d
Now this is a person who knows science!
YewEyeOwe31@lemmings.world · 21 pts · 275d
I always felt bad for the service dogs that had to walk around with bare paws in the chemistry building at university. There’s no telling what kinda stuff tracks around the halls out of labs on peoples shoes. Especially the ochem labs.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 274d
This particular dog is fortunate enough to have shoes
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 275d
What a good dog.
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 17 pts · 274d
TIL animals may be allowed in chemistry labs. But then again, still remember my professor's being very clear that mouth pipetting is bad idea, to then show us how to do it just in case.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 274d
I ate cancer cells of a person who died 40 years before me trying mouth pipetting
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 274d
That sounds HeLa awkward.
Toes@ani.social · 3 pts · 274d
I had a classmate that managed to dump nitric acid all over themselves doing that. Luckily it wasn’t strong enough to not be funny.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 274d
My chem teacher was also the lab instructor. He would talk about how gloves are important because of the permeability of human skin. Then next lab would put a drop of dcm on his hand. Still not sure why he did that. Maybe he was illustrating it having a fairly low vapor pressure¿
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 275d
I will say this is not enough PPE for a dog, especially if you're doing acid titrations or something, I can't imagine HCL is easy to get out of fur but it might give the dog a while before skin contact
stray@pawb.social · 11 pts · 275d
Yeah, I'm hoping the image is just a cute joke and that the lab is actually not dealing with anything hazardous.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 274d
My bio labs required ppe as well as the chem.
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 274d
I would imagine that there isn't anything hazardous to that degree. I studied biochemistry, and I can think of a lot of different research areas that would include minimally hazardous materials (e.g. phosphate buffer)
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 273d
I didn't do biochemistry but I've just been taking chem 2 this semester and we've used HCL for maybe 3 or 4 labs, I dunno. I think the biggest issue though is that the dog is immediately below the table, presumably at her owners legs and In the splash zone
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 275d
Doggles!
Pika@rekabu.ru · 14 pts · 275d
I wonder - how exactly does this work?
For all I know, service dogs primarily help blind people or those with severe mental health issues.
The former must make working in a lab near impossible as most things are observed visually and also making an organized spot for a blind researcher must require thorough preparation and heavy assistance for every experiment. The latter might behave unpredictably, which doesn't pair well with a lab environment, and might prompt the dog to rush to support without minding the environment, amplifying the issue.
Also, dog is an animal, and while they can be trained to behave well, they are unlikely to remember all safety rules, especially in a critical situation where they need to focus on aiding the owner.
I might be wrong by all points, since I didn't ever see service dogs in a lab environment, and don't commonly see them around, but I come from a point of genuine interest.
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 275d
Could be an Alert Dog. I have e a neighbor with one, the Dog's job is "Be a Dog unless daddy is about to go into diabetic shock, then calmly alert until someone does something."
Not all service dogs have super big jobs, some are just like organic blood tests.
Pika@rekabu.ru · 6 pts · 274d
Interesting, the more I know!
Might teach my family diabetic's cat some tricks, lol
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 274d
Cats are theoretically capable of this, but the problem is that they're much harder to train than dogs are.
There seems to be at least one case of it though
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 274d
Food source servant is dying. There’s probably another food source servant available so meh. In the meantime the food source servant can be eaten while I wait.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 274d
Food servant meat is getting sweeter. Soon it will be ready for consumption. I will get closer for fresh bites.
Sybilvane@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 275d
There are many people who are very blind but not completely so (e.g. really can't see anything at a distance). They may be able to operate well in a lab environment.
There are people whose mental health issues are rare or can often be prevented with a service animal. Their "breakdowns" are likely not destructive anyway, so no real risk to the lab itself.
Service animals also sometimes help to warn that someone is about to have a seizure, so they can go somewhere safe.
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 274d
I had a friend whose service animal was trained to get her pill container from her purse or bag and bring it to her if she collapsed or otherwise called for them. Not sure what they were, never really asked or talked about it since she never initiated the topic but it was apparently sufficiently life threatening if she were to lose stability in a manner where she couldn’t take her medicine shortly after. I only really knew because there were some rooms her service animal was not authorized to enter and I would fulfill that role for her in those situations.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 274d
so you knew enough to give her medication, but had no idea what it was?
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 274d
I knew to go retrieve the bottle bag for her, I never asked what was in it and she didn’t offer. It was I little Velcro bag that had long cloth things on either end for her service dog to pick up with his mouth from either side to pull out of her purse or bag so I never saw the actual pill bottle(s). Just a quick, if something goes down I need you to grab this bag for me and shove it into my right hand. I said you got it and that was kind of the end of it. Guess I figured if she wanted to talk about it more she would have initiated a discussion. She always got questions and pestering about her service dog being around as it was already so I kind of felt like being a good friend to her was just being someone that was there for her without all the questions. I haven’t talked to her in years though so maybe not, idk.
Pika@rekabu.ru · 2 pts · 274d
Got it, thanks!
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 275d
I mean they can be taking labs for an unrelated major like engineering. Still have to do a few chem classes for that
Pika@rekabu.ru · 1 pts · 274d
Fair, but I thought they may have some alternative route to get their credit
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 274d
I'm my engineering degree chem 1,2, and 3 were required
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 274d
And here we see Professor Moonmoon about to espouse his latest theories on goodboi theory.
dan69@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 274d
Bro needs full hazmat suit.
Vespair@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 275d
No hate intended, I promise, but I will never understand why people react to seeing any dog as if it were their first time seeing a dog. I'm glad we have them, and I'm so grateful for service animals in particular, I just don't understand the hyper-fixation.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 275d
Because the world is getting more grim dark by the hour so let me fawn over a dog in goggles for a minute and forget the pain dammit
stray@pawb.social · 6 pts · 275d
doggles
chloroken@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 273d
I've worked in enough laboratories to know how ridiculous this is. Leave the dog outside of the room. You can kill the thing with fumes and spills. Even in an undergrad class this is still so reckless.
Whatever you have the dog for is less important than the dog's health. This PPE is pointless and ridiculous.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 273d
Yeah.... That's just unnecessary to put a dog at risk like that, whether service or otherwise.
Also, don't work in a lab by yourself. Have a buddy, even if all they do is sit in a corner and scroll on their phone. Have someone there in case something happens.
In the best case, you've maybe wasted some of their time. In the worst case, at least you'll have company in quarantine.
AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 273d
Pragmatic. You don't have to do lab work to dress your dog in silly costumes. You should just do it because.