Meta had a 17-strike policy for sex trafficking, former safety leader claims

https://www.theverge.com/news/827658/meta-17-strike-policy-sex-trafficking-testimony-lawsuit

Meta allegedly gave accounts engaged in the “trafficking of humans for sex” 16 chances before suspending them, according to testimony from the company’s former head of safety and well-being, Vaishnavi Jayakumar. The testimony — along with several other claims that Meta ignored problems if they increased engagement — surfaced in an unredacted court filing related to a social media child safety lawsuit filed by school districts across the country.

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eager_eagle@lemmy.world · 195 pts · 281d (3 replies)

meanwhile YouTube had a 3 strike policy for copyright claims that might not even be true

Tanoh@lemmy.world · 121 pts · 281d (2 replies)

Ah, but corporate profit margins are much more important than people

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 281d

Ha ha ha ha........ha..........

cries

vas@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 280d

... to google. (Not sure if it's generalizable to 95% of for-profit corporations by the legal definition of for-profit. But we know for sure about google.)

RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 97 pts · 281d (5 replies)

Jesus fuck, even 3-strikes would be absurd for this...

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 42 pts · 281d (4 replies)

17 is an oddly specific number.

Susaga@sh.itjust.works · 41 pts · 281d

I have to believe Jerry, the exec who's bad at his job but the CEO likes him, has 16 strikes. One more strike, and the CEO will be forced to update the policy again.

Kooper@feddit.org · 32 pts · 281d (1 reply)

Those kinds of people probably don't like anything the moment it turns 18

Natanael@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 280d

Meta doesn't like it when they're legal

anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 281d

18 is too many years chances.

YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca · 56 pts · 281d (15 replies)

I'm not defending the policy but the title doesn't match the story:

“That means that you could incur 16 violations for prostitution and sexual solicitation, and upon the 17th violation, your account would be suspended,”

hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 52 pts · 281d (3 replies)

Wait but that changes everything? Sex work doesn't automatically mean sex trafficking??

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 281d (2 replies)

Yeah, to me it's muddy waters. While some people look down on it, if an adult posts something that says free Saturday night, hit me up for a price... That's not anywhere near trafficking. But it is very much solicitation.

hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 281d (1 reply)

Yeah, but the title says only sex trafficking

XTL@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 281d

It appears that the article and possibly the site is just ragebait bs.

Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 281d (2 replies)

So, 17 strikes you're out.

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 281d (1 reply)

Thats why baseball games in the 1800s were much longer.

Jarix@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 281d

You should look into the history of cricket

Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 281d

I mean, it IS The Verge. They could be so inept that they just forgot to include anything relating to the title in their story

ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 281d (6 replies)

that matches the title completely

Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 281d (5 replies)

Sex work =/= sex trafficking

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 281d

Unless they have to drive to you during rush hour. Then it's sex work with traffic.

ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 281d

Meta allegedly gave accounts engaged in the “trafficking of humans for sex” 16 chances before suspending them,

the article is about sex trafficking, the policy would also apply to sex workers, eventually.

not everything about sex trafficking is about sex workers…

Serinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d (2 replies)

Sometimes. Probably not on Facebook.

There's a pretty good This American Life about it. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/740/there-i-fixed-it

Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d (1 reply)

What's "This american life", beyond a podcast? Not something I'm familiar with.

Serinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 281d

Just a podcast.

stoy@lemmy.zip · 38 pts · 281d (6 replies)

That seems like 17 strikes too many.

Heikki2@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 281d (1 reply)

To be fair, they allowed 17 strikes without repercussions. We may never actually know how many strikes it would take to get suspended on the platform

JamesTBagg@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 280d

17 strikes to get suspended. Second paragraph of the article you didn't read.

FishFace@piefed.social · 13 pts · 281d (1 reply)

Zero strikes and you're out!

jj4211@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 281d

Hurray, everyone is off the platform. Honestly, that would be for the best...

D_C@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 281d (1 reply)

I suggest a 1 strike policy.
Here's an example: use 1 supersonic heatseeking rocket to do a rocket strike on Zuckerberg (if he survives then use 1 more rocket until he is no longer breathing)

If successful then it could be a policy that's adopted to be used on other billionaires, muskyboy, tRUMP, etc etc.

It may not work but I say we should give it a go for about ten years to see what happens...

real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 281d

use 1 supersonic heatseeking rocket

Personally I'd go for the slap chop, aka R-9X, but I understand if you fancy heatseekers

skisnow@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 281d

I tried reporting a blatant kidnapping/pig butchering gang, and there literally wasn’t a category for it in their reporting mechanism. I picked the closest thing I could think of, and naturally the report just got ignored.

TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 281d (3 replies)

"Promise me you won't be sending 15 year olds to your island next time, Epstein, or you will be banned if you do it again for the 16th time."

Although, seriously, this explains a lot why Trump admin and the oligarchs are sexual deviants.

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 8 pts · 280d (2 replies)

I think, more likely, they had a 3 strike rule. But he kept breaking it, so they increased it to 4. And again. And again.

And that's how we ended up at 16

Jerkface@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 280d

So in reality they had an n + 1 strike policy. Brilliant.

ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online · 2 pts · 280d

Stop! Or I shall be forced to say stop another time!

brax@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 281d (2 replies)

Meanwhile, one harmless meme and you're suspended. I don't get why people use Meta anymore. The site went to shit 20 years ago, and nobody seems to want to jump to another platform. For reasons unknown - there was no issue leaving MySpace for Facebook, so just fucking do it again.

antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 281d

Idk the only time I've seen Facebook dot com links is when my parents send me AI videos of animals. I'm trying to get them off of it but they are set in their ways, etc etc

QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 280d

I've been using it for news since Reddit fucking banned my ass

Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 17 pts · 281d

Lol other places ban for the suspicious activity of .... being on a VPN

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 280d (2 replies)

How many strikes do they allow now?

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 280d

Infinite until there are actual consequences for the company.

FuCensorship@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 280d

Yes.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 281d

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on you. Fool me three times, shame on you. Fool me four times...

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 280d

Second only to the "meh" strike policy of raping kids the White House currently employs...

ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 280d

hey look who hasn't been busted doing the same wrong thing on the 15th time and thought, "man y'know what it's time to turn myself around..."

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 7 pts · 280d

“We strongly disagree with these allegations, which rely on cherry-picked quotes and misinformed opinions in an attempt to present a deliberately misleading picture,” Meta spokesperson Andy Stone said in an emailed statement to The Verge.

Press X for doubt.

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 279d

Wow it seems like corporations condone child abuse.

It really seems like we need some "proportionality laws" such as "a service provider cannot treat illegal activity with more lenience than civil disputes" and retain neutrality protections.

PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 279d

No shit. You can pay me and I know how to get suspended accounts brought back. I did it with my 20 year old suspended account. Lost it for a year and figured out how to get it reviewed. Very happy to have everything back.

can@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 281d

/community

What the fuck

kandoh@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 280d

Evil