she will flee to the UK or another EU country to avoid further prosecution, the mistake is she mostly stayed in places where she would get captured easily the first time.
Ah, see, you think you heard that MAGA was going to ârelease the Epstein filesâ but what they actually said was âweâre going to release the Epstein pedophiles.â Yeah, theyâre letting everyone involved with him off the hook.
Democrats have a pattern of vocally opposing issues only after they irreparably solidify them.
In 1986 they helped pass draconian drug laws and mandatory minimums that supercharged mass incarceration, then decades later turned around and branded the âwar on drugsâ a moral failure.
In 1994 they wrote and championed the crime bill that funded more cages and longer sentences; only once whole communities were gutted did it become fashionable for them to âreckonâ with mass incarceration.
In 1996 they joined Republicans to âend welfare as we know it,â slapping work requirements and time limits on poor families, then years later started admitting it deepened extreme poverty.
That same â90s crew pushed NAFTA and the broader free-trade consensus that helped ship industrial jobs overseas, then reinvented themselves as champions of the working class once the damage was locked in.
They joined in financial deregulation at the end of the decade, tearing down New Deal banking walls, and after the 2008 crash, suddenly discovered the virtues of regulation.
On social issues itâs the same story: they crafted âDonât Ask, Donât Tellâ and passed DOMA, then only when public opinion flipped did they pretend theyâd always been on the side of LGBT rights.
They voted for the 2002 Iraq AUMF and let Bush have his war, then spent the next decade calling it a catastrophic mistake.
They backed the 2006 Secure Fence Act to harden the southern border, then later denounced wall-style politics as cruel and nativist.
So no, Epstein Island wasnât some weird one-off âbipartisan moment.â Bipartisanship is the rule whenever it comes to locking people up, bombing someone, cutting social supports, or serving corporate interests, and Democrats in particular have a long record of helping build the machinery first and only discovering their consciences after itâs too late to dismantle it. At least the Republicans consistently tell you they hate you to your face.
My problem is that they're always on the wrong side of history, and only start using the vulnerable as rhetoric after they can't kill and maim them profitably.
They don't serve us, they use as to serve the capitalist class.
I don't really know what it is you're trying to say there, but perhaps you're unaware that the dems are the minority party in both the house and senate at the moment, and as such, they have insufficient voting power to counter that of the gop maga regime.
The letter further cautioned against releasing documents related to Maxwellâs case, as they may âcontain untested and unproven allegationsâ.
It explained that releasing grand jury materials from Maxwellâs case âwould create undue prejudice so severe that it would foreclose the possibility of a fair retrialâ, should her petition to be released succeed.
Oh, I get it. Just another ploy to keep the Epstein files hidden?
You can really tell who they want in jail and who they don't when you compare it to Luigi Mangioni's case. They were happy to release all sorts of documents and publicly state he is guilty (despite being presumed innocent in the eyes of the law)
Exactly. Plus, this all feels SO coordinated. Trump team had a private conversation with her. Then she gets moved to a comfortable prison. Trump approves the release of the documents, but what do you know? She is now appealing for her release and thinks the documents shouldnât be released.
Thereâs 100% shit in there Trump doesnât want public.
They already redacted names from the speed dial and words (names?) in another photo from those photos released the other day. If they finally release this shit it will be heavily redacted. That's why it was slow-walked, to give time to make sure everyone who matters is protected.
We've got emails between him and dozens of billionaires. Larry Summers chat logs where he's asking for advice while cheating on his wife. My Brother in Christ we have his Quora search history.
How many more files do you feel like you need to see? Nobody else is going to jail for this shit.
The most depressing part is that she'll get her release. She'll find a way to bribe Trump, and he'll give her a presidential pardon because he's a whore. Then she'll go back to what she was doing before and business will continue like usual for them because everybody will move on from it just like they did with the Panama papers before it and the Snowden leaking the NSA's mass surveillance even further back. Accountability and justice are dead in this timeline.
"...explained that releasing grand jury materials from Maxwellâs case âwould create undue prejudice so severe that it would foreclose the possibility of a fair retrialâ
There it is. The excuse to redact/withhold whatever they want as ransom to keep her in prison
Correct me if I'm wrong. They're saying there's so much evidence that there'd be no defense. That's an unfair trial? So basically, do a bunch of evil shit and you'll get away with it. As long as you got loads of money.
It will be interesting to watch all the sAvEtHeChIldReN qtards trying to spin this if Taco were to release this child molester.
While they are doing that, I sure hope some people take it upon themselves to ask these idiots when "The Storm" is supposedly coming? And how does freeing Ghislaine the child molester figure into this supposed "Storm", LOL?
I'm reminded of Jon Ronson's observation in "So You've Been Publicly Shamed", that the religious right are surprisingly tolerant of sexual misconduct scandals in a way that progressives aren't.
If you had to pick just one, who do you think is more important to "get", the billionaires that funded and protected her and Jeffry's scheme, or her particularly?
Re-imprisonment or the dropping of protections could make her talk.
If she's out of prison she dies within a year, killed either by an assassin from one of the billionaires, or by a helpful intelligent volunteer like yourself.
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panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 139 pts · 248d
This is gross.
Thereâs no way she should get released. What she did is beyond atrocious.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 51 pts · 248d
Sheâll be on the streets in 3 days and 2 checks
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 247d
Her half way house address is
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. 20500, United States.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 247d
East wing
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
In the new gilded ballroom? Swanky halfway house.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 246d
Naw they canât trust her for long. Sheâll end up in the foundation.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 247d
she will flee to the UK or another EU country to avoid further prosecution, the mistake is she mostly stayed in places where she would get captured easily the first time.
Mihies@programming.dev · 9 pts · 247d
UK?
dumpsterfire@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 247d
probably an untouchable country daddy works for
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
Her daddy died.
BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
Are you implying UK or most of EU shield people from extraditionto the US?
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 247d
Why would the UK or EU take her? You lot can deal with your own shit, we don't want it.
FarrellPerks@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 247d
Assuming you're unaware, she's actually from the UK.
Zoot@reddthat.com · -11 pts · 247d
I believe you missed a key word while being so ridiculously xenophobic.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 246d
she will flee the US the moment she is released.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 246d
Why would she need to?
DoctorNope@lemmy.world · 105 pts · 247d
Ah, see, you think you heard that MAGA was going to ârelease the Epstein filesâ but what they actually said was âweâre going to release the Epstein pedophiles.â Yeah, theyâre letting everyone involved with him off the hook.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 247d
The Epstein 'philes
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 247d
JTskulk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
You don't need to cat, grep can just read the file itself.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 246d
JTskulk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 245d
Hard to disagree with that, piping shit kicks ass.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
JTskulk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
LMAO!
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 245d
evilcultist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 247d
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 247d
I can see this as an actual tactic. It means that do-gooders have to handle each and every one of the released, or be forced to focus on just one.
Considering the nature of MAGA, unleashing violent criminals upon the innocent remains in character. đ
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
Wait, where are the do-gooders?
3abas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
And what meaningful action are Dems taking to stop it?
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 247d
Strongly worded letter SLAMMING them for corruption
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 247d
A firm email is being drafted.
(Epstein Island was a rare example of bipartisan effort)
3abas@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 247d
Rare?
Democrats have a pattern of vocally opposing issues only after they irreparably solidify them.
In 1986 they helped pass draconian drug laws and mandatory minimums that supercharged mass incarceration, then decades later turned around and branded the âwar on drugsâ a moral failure.
In 1994 they wrote and championed the crime bill that funded more cages and longer sentences; only once whole communities were gutted did it become fashionable for them to âreckonâ with mass incarceration.
In 1996 they joined Republicans to âend welfare as we know it,â slapping work requirements and time limits on poor families, then years later started admitting it deepened extreme poverty.
That same â90s crew pushed NAFTA and the broader free-trade consensus that helped ship industrial jobs overseas, then reinvented themselves as champions of the working class once the damage was locked in.
They joined in financial deregulation at the end of the decade, tearing down New Deal banking walls, and after the 2008 crash, suddenly discovered the virtues of regulation.
On social issues itâs the same story: they crafted âDonât Ask, Donât Tellâ and passed DOMA, then only when public opinion flipped did they pretend theyâd always been on the side of LGBT rights.
They voted for the 2002 Iraq AUMF and let Bush have his war, then spent the next decade calling it a catastrophic mistake.
They backed the 2006 Secure Fence Act to harden the southern border, then later denounced wall-style politics as cruel and nativist.
So no, Epstein Island wasnât some weird one-off âbipartisan moment.â Bipartisanship is the rule whenever it comes to locking people up, bombing someone, cutting social supports, or serving corporate interests, and Democrats in particular have a long record of helping build the machinery first and only discovering their consciences after itâs too late to dismantle it. At least the Republicans consistently tell you they hate you to your face.
village604@adultswim.fan · -2 pts · 247d
So your problem with Democrats is that they're capable of admitting they were wrong?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 247d
3abas@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 247d
Nice twist.
My problem is that they're always on the wrong side of history, and only start using the vulnerable as rhetoric after they can't kill and maim them profitably.
They don't serve us, they use as to serve the capitalist class.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 4 pts · 247d
What action can they take?
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 247d
You don't get it. The minority party somehow has the power to do whatever they want; they just don't because they're exactly as bad as Republicans.
/S
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 246d
I don't really know what it is you're trying to say there, but perhaps you're unaware that the dems are the minority party in both the house and senate at the moment, and as such, they have insufficient voting power to counter that of the gop maga regime.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 246d
They're agreeing with you. Fact is the Democrats weren't given power to stop this.
Perhaps those so inclined might show up to both primaries and the general elections next year.
village604@adultswim.fan · 0 pts · 246d
/s means sarcasm
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
Democrats can't do anything. They don't have the capacity to accomplish anything useful. They're absolutely powerless.
That's why you should vote for them.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 248d
Oh, I get it. Just another ploy to keep the Epstein files hidden?
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 247d
Lmfao I didn't know "my client needs to avoid all consequences so the truth doesn't get out" was a valid legal defense.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 247d
After she was found guilty! Maybe before, but definitely not after.
echodot@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 247d
My client does not wish for this information to be released because this information is incriminating.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 247d
You can really tell who they want in jail and who they don't when you compare it to Luigi Mangioni's case. They were happy to release all sorts of documents and publicly state he is guilty (despite being presumed innocent in the eyes of the law)
danc4498@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 247d
Exactly. Plus, this all feels SO coordinated. Trump team had a private conversation with her. Then she gets moved to a comfortable prison. Trump approves the release of the documents, but what do you know? She is now appealing for her release and thinks the documents shouldnât be released.
Thereâs 100% shit in there Trump doesnât want public.
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 246d
They already redacted names from the speed dial and words (names?) in another photo from those photos released the other day. If they finally release this shit it will be heavily redacted. That's why it was slow-walked, to give time to make sure everyone who matters is protected.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 247d
We've got emails between him and dozens of billionaires. Larry Summers chat logs where he's asking for advice while cheating on his wife. My Brother in Christ we have his Quora search history.
How many more files do you feel like you need to see? Nobody else is going to jail for this shit.
danc4498@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 247d
ALL THE FILES
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 247d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 247d
tym@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 246d
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 248d
The most depressing part is that she'll get her release. She'll find a way to bribe Trump, and he'll give her a presidential pardon because he's a whore. Then she'll go back to what she was doing before and business will continue like usual for them because everybody will move on from it just like they did with the Panama papers before it and the Snowden leaking the NSA's mass surveillance even further back. Accountability and justice are dead in this timeline.
GreatAspie86@lemy.lol · 7 pts · 247d
capital_sniff@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 247d
They aren't dead they are just on an extended vacation. Things will improve once the boomers move on and we fix the brains of the younger ones.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 247d
They're currently mainlining the ten commandments
fizzle@quokk.au · 1 pts · 247d
You mean like... tell him she will spill the details about the redacted stuff in the released documents?
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 247d
You don't even need to blackmail Trump, just offer a few million dollars and words of praise and that's all you'll need for a pardon.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 247d
Well she trafficked underage girls who were sexually abused by rich men as part of a Mossad honeypot. Not like she did anything wrong.
deHaga@feddit.uk · 21 pts · 247d
Her father was a triple agent for the UK, Russia and Israel, I'm sure he'd be very proud, had he not 'fell' off his boat when he stopped being useful
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 247d
Only an anti-Semite would believe otherwise.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 247d
"...explained that releasing grand jury materials from Maxwellâs case âwould create undue prejudice so severe that it would foreclose the possibility of a fair retrialâ
There it is. The excuse to redact/withhold whatever they want as ransom to keep her in prison
Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 246d
Correct me if I'm wrong. They're saying there's so much evidence that there'd be no defense. That's an unfair trial? So basically, do a bunch of evil shit and you'll get away with it. As long as you got loads of money.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 248d
"Quiet" pardon incoming.
"Quiet" in that the media, most especially Fox News, will not report it at all.
switcheroo@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 247d
Pay the Pedo King enough and you'll get a pardon
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 247d
It will be interesting to watch all the sAvEtHeChIldReN qtards trying to spin this if Taco were to release this child molester.
While they are doing that, I sure hope some people take it upon themselves to ask these idiots when "The Storm" is supposedly coming? And how does freeing Ghislaine the child molester figure into this supposed "Storm", LOL?
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 247d
The current MAGA position seems to be that they weren't children, they were just very very very young adults...
echodot@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 247d
And of course trafficking adults for the purposes of sexual exploitation is fine
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 247d
I'm reminded of Jon Ronson's observation in "So You've Been Publicly Shamed", that the religious right are surprisingly tolerant of sexual misconduct scandals in a way that progressives aren't.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 247d
remember she is a honeypot of source, she has ties to mossad through her father, just for blackmail purposes.
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 246d
We want the release of the Epstein Files, not the Epstein Pedophiles....
motor_spirit@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 248d
myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 247d
And the gop goes wild. Finally the human trafficking can continue.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 247d
Disgusting fucking perverts.
wooffersyt@lemmings.world · 9 pts · 247d
NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 247d
You mean eliminate the one person that could still believably implicate the people most at fault?... That's what you hope for?
wooffersyt@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 247d
NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 247d
If you had to pick just one, who do you think is more important to "get", the billionaires that funded and protected her and Jeffry's scheme, or her particularly?
Re-imprisonment or the dropping of protections could make her talk.
If she's out of prison she dies within a year, killed either by an assassin from one of the billionaires, or by a helpful intelligent volunteer like yourself.
village604@adultswim.fan · 1 pts · 247d
I doubt she'd be assassinated by someone in the files. She must have one hell of a Dead man's switch to still be alive.
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 247d
Yeah brother! Donât unignore him because he isnât undumb!
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 247d
Fuuuuuck that noise. I hope someone at a state level finds a way to get her locked up for charges that Taco couldn't pardon her for.
ShieldsUp@startrek.website · 1 pts · 247d
She will be long gone by then if she is released. Our laws are not sufficient for this level of high corruption.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 247d
Grand Old PDFs
Zier@fedia.io · 7 pts · 247d
He will pardon her, and commute her sentence. He just pardoned a massive, evil drug lord.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 247d
Hahahaha oh my fucking god this is absolutely insane
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 247d
We asked for the pedo files, not pedophiles!
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 247d
If she gets out, the clock starts ticking
GaryGhost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 246d
Let her live in Israel where she can let dogs rape people. Fucking monster
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 246d
We are not laughing at you, America. We are laughing with you.