It is really good. I make it from scratch sometimes,basivally foccacia with a thick and flavorful tomato goop on top. It's super rich with a lot of olive oil in the recipe, but for me it's the garlic, red pepper, and sugar that make the dish what it is. No cheese required here.
Weird thought - pizza dates to 997 CE, that's over 500 years before tomatoes were introduced in Italy. Most of the existence of pizza has been without tomato.
Technically even 2500BC in ancient Sumer they had flatbreads and the ability to bake them with toppings, I think potentially you're underestimating the age of the pizza by an order of magnitude.
True, I'm just looking at it linguistically. We've had a thing called "pizza" in continuous use since 997 according to Wikipedia (I was unable to locate the source cited, but I don't think it's a contentious issue, so Wikipedia is probably correct).
Oh that makes more sense, yeah. However, I'm not sure theres 100% an unbroken line but Ancient Greeks had the word pitta, meaning flatbread and *bheid- is the Proto-Indo-European root meaning to split or to bite that it comes from. So it seems potential time travelers asking for pizza by name stand a decent chance of getting the point across right back into the neolithic.
That's not an edgy take. Pizzas have been traditionally referred to as pies for a long time. It's fallen out of favor in the last few generations, but there was a time when it was common to refer to it as a pie.
I used to think I hated deep dish pizza cause I only ever had it at UNO's and it was not great. But a local place by me was recommended because of their deep dish pizza. And it was amazing! One of two places in my city that make pizza you eat with a fork and knife. The other one is defacto "deep dish" but more classic pizza, just with like ALL the toppings.
Where I live, we have a food that's basically flatbread with toppings. One of the popular toppings is apple slices and raisins, which looks just like an apple pie. And we do like to joke that pizza is simply the tomato variant of it, too. 🙃
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ShyFae@piefed.blahaj.zone · 31 pts · 232d
Tomato pie is already a thing.
And it is indeed suspiciously similar to deep dish pizza.
_skj@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 232d
But people get mad if I say their tomato pie is just a type of pizza
sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 232d
TIL that tomato pie is a thing. And I want it not to be.
pleasejustdie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 232d
It's delicious though
Kcap@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 232d
It is really good. I make it from scratch sometimes,basivally foccacia with a thick and flavorful tomato goop on top. It's super rich with a lot of olive oil in the recipe, but for me it's the garlic, red pepper, and sugar that make the dish what it is. No cheese required here.
Norin@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 232d
Well, yeah, people have been calling pizzas pies for a long time.
Deep dish especially.
JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 232d
That's Amore - Dean Martin 1953
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie...
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d
Reminds me of the scene in Hot Shots 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAjAfBdwD40
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 232d
Weird thought - pizza dates to 997 CE, that's over 500 years before tomatoes were introduced in Italy. Most of the existence of pizza has been without tomato.
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
Technically even 2500BC in ancient Sumer they had flatbreads and the ability to bake them with toppings, I think potentially you're underestimating the age of the pizza by an order of magnitude.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
True, I'm just looking at it linguistically. We've had a thing called "pizza" in continuous use since 997 according to Wikipedia (I was unable to locate the source cited, but I don't think it's a contentious issue, so Wikipedia is probably correct).
Asidonhopo@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 232d
Oh that makes more sense, yeah. However, I'm not sure theres 100% an unbroken line but Ancient Greeks had the word pitta, meaning flatbread and *bheid- is the Proto-Indo-European root meaning to split or to bite that it comes from. So it seems potential time travelers asking for pizza by name stand a decent chance of getting the point across right back into the neolithic.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 232d
Now that's a shower thought! I love it.
TheWeirdestCunt@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 232d
Pizza is made of pastry?
webkitten@piefed.social · 7 pts · 232d
wabafee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 232d
My favorite
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 232d
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 232d
That's not an edgy take. Pizzas have been traditionally referred to as pies for a long time. It's fallen out of favor in the last few generations, but there was a time when it was common to refer to it as a pie.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 232d
How else would you refer to a whole pizza? That's almost always called a pie in my experience, even though people don't say "a pizza pie" so much.
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 232d
I call a whole pizza "a pizza"
Zorque@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 232d
Depends on how much sauce is used. I've had plenty where it's little more than a thin veneer.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 232d
Chicago deep dish style
I don't refer to pizzas as "pies" and generally frown upon it, but a case can be made for deep dish.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 232d
I used to think I hated deep dish pizza cause I only ever had it at UNO's and it was not great. But a local place by me was recommended because of their deep dish pizza. And it was amazing! One of two places in my city that make pizza you eat with a fork and knife. The other one is defacto "deep dish" but more classic pizza, just with like ALL the toppings.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 232d
Someone's had Chicago style deep dish for the first time I see.
Ephera@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 232d
Where I live, we have a food that's basically flatbread with toppings. One of the popular toppings is apple slices and raisins, which looks just like an apple pie. And we do like to joke that pizza is simply the tomato variant of it, too. 🙃
Diddlydee@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 232d
It's half a cheese toastie with tomato sauce.
tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 3 pts · 232d
That's just a fancy way of saying a tomato smoothie on bread/pastry