I played 3 rounds now and I get the feeling the clues aren't always enough to deduce the next assignment. Which is too bad, because the game itself is fun
Since I've gotten the hang of it, I've not encountered a puzzle where any choice was a guess. It certainly felt that way at times when I first started, though.
I agree. Every time I'm sure that the game is wrong, when I look and rethink I understand my mistake. There is a subreddit for this game where they discuss it, but nothing here on Lemmy. I wonder if there is enough interest here to start one?
::: spoiler Spoilers
With the given clues, it's known that there is a single criminal between Sofia and Wanda (b4 & b5). We also know the column can't have 3 criminals, and it already had one revealed. QED, Bruce has to be innocent.
:::
I didn't get any of our that info. This is the screen shot I took right after selecting him using hints. And the two clues before the giveme, were Oscar and Uma who don't give that away either.
I appreciate you responding and trying to hand hold me through this. So if I sound frustrated, it is not with you.
::: spoiler my experience.
I really don't see how that says Bruce is innocent. And when I got my first hint it highlighted two clues that were absolutely no help.
So how did you decide there were only 2 guilties in column b? Sorry I can't reference the my picture when responding.
Edit: My bad! I see my problem now! I tried to indicate 1&2 in column d and it said I didn't have enough evidence. That seems like a big problem in the intended logic.
So how did you decide there were only 2 guilties in column b?
So at the point just before your screenshot, the two clues that get highlighted for me are D3 and B2, which are the one's I mentioned.
D3 is the clue that tells us there is only one innocent left to reveal that neighbors C4, meaning there is one innocent and one criminal between B4 and B5, though we don't know which is which yet. And with B2 already being a criminal, B1 being criminal would give use three in the column.
B2 tells us column A is the only one with three criminals, so to fit all the clues, B1 has to be innocent.
I tried to indicate 1&2 in column d and it said I didn’t have enough evidence. That seems like a big problem in the intended logic.
For D1 and D2, we don't have enough information before B1 is revealed because the options of them both being criminals or both innocent each fit the clues up to that point, making the choice a guess. After B1's clue, the choice is clear.
And the clue from Tom about Zara and Igor sharing neighbors... What? There's two rows between them. They don't share a neighbor. Or is my definition of a "neighbor" wrong?
First take Peter's hint. It says that one of Sofia and Wanda is innocent, one is criminal. That means in Column B we know there are two innocents, two criminals and Bruce.
Now take Gabe's hint: there cannot be three criminals in Column B.
If Bruce were criminal, there would be three criminals in Column B, so Bruce cannot be criminal.
Gabe: Column A is the only column with exactly 3 criminals.
Peter: There are 5 innocents neighboring Tom.
Given this combination we know that Bruce is innocent because either Sofia or Wanda have to be a criminal and because there cannot be exactly 3 criminals in column B: Bruce is innocent.
Gabe: Column A is the only column with exactly 3 criminals.
Peter: There are 5 innocents neighboring Tom.
Given this combination we know that Bruce is innocent because either Sofia or Wanda have to be a criminal and because there cannot be exactly 3 criminals in column B: Bruce is innocent.
I copied my answer. I don't know what you mean by glitch. The puzzle works with the given information.
you’re missing something. been playing for a few months, only one time ran into a bugged puzzle and Sam had it corrected within a couple hours of release.
I've played this game for over a month now, maybe two, and I haven't encountered a single instance of that happening. The next answer is always deducible by logic. I have gotten stuck plenty of times, and a few times I even thought the game was totally and definitely wrong, only for me to realise that I missed something.
If you continue playing, you should know that the games get harder as the week goes on. The weekend ones tend to sometimes take me 15-20 minutes to work out.
I just found out my problem is it must've glitched, cause I had the clues for two guilties and it said I didn't have enough evidence, and the give me was Bruce, which it really shouldn't have been.
Take Peter's hint: It says that either Sofia or Wanda are criminals, so there's exactly 2 confirmed criminals, 2 confirmed innocents and Bruce on Column B.
Now take Gabe's hint: There cannot be 3 criminals on Column B, so Bruce needs to be innocent.
I love this game! Since a streamer I like was playing it once, I've been hooked. If anyone is having trouble, scrolling down in the page had some explanations of some clues.
I'm pretty stuck on this one.
https://cluesbysam.com/s/help/01c315cae125?state=bEzQ-AAAAAAA%3D
The hint has me pointed towards C5, but only based on a hint about edges. There are 5 unknown people on the edges, not counting two in the left corner of which one is innocent and one is guilty. So I have no idea what its clues are trying to say matters here.
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SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 12 pts · 218d
Why bother catching the criminals on Jan 6th? They'll all get pardoned anyway.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 10 pts · 219d
I played 3 rounds now and I get the feeling the clues aren't always enough to deduce the next assignment. Which is too bad, because the game itself is fun
ech@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 219d
Since I've gotten the hang of it, I've not encountered a puzzle where any choice was a guess. It certainly felt that way at times when I first started, though.
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 218d
I agree. Every time I'm sure that the game is wrong, when I look and rethink I understand my mistake. There is a subreddit for this game where they discuss it, but nothing here on Lemmy. I wonder if there is enough interest here to start one?
Yorick@piefed.social · 3 pts · 217d
FYI The daily game community c/dailygames usually has someone post about this game every day
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
Thanks!
ghostlychonk@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 219d
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 219d
There was no logic behind Bruce (judge in b1)!
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one!
ech@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 219d
::: spoiler Spoilers With the given clues, it's known that there is a single criminal between Sofia and Wanda (b4 & b5). We also know the column can't have 3 criminals, and it already had one revealed. QED, Bruce has to be innocent. :::
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 218d
::: spoiler my experience.
I didn't get any of our that info. This is the screen shot I took right after selecting him using hints. And the two clues before the giveme, were Oscar and Uma who don't give that away either.
ech@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 218d
::: spoiler Spoiler D3 - Tom has 5 innocent neighbors.
4 are revealed, leaving one left between Sofia and Wanda, and the other must be a criminal. :::
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 218d
I appreciate you responding and trying to hand hold me through this. So if I sound frustrated, it is not with you.
::: spoiler my experience.
I really don't see how that says Bruce is innocent. And when I got my first hint it highlighted two clues that were absolutely no help.
So how did you decide there were only 2 guilties in column b? Sorry I can't reference the my picture when responding.
Edit: My bad! I see my problem now! I tried to indicate 1&2 in column d and it said I didn't have enough evidence. That seems like a big problem in the intended logic.
ech@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 218d
So at the point just before your screenshot, the two clues that get highlighted for me are D3 and B2, which are the one's I mentioned.
D3 is the clue that tells us there is only one innocent left to reveal that neighbors C4, meaning there is one innocent and one criminal between B4 and B5, though we don't know which is which yet. And with B2 already being a criminal, B1 being criminal would give use three in the column.
B2 tells us column A is the only one with three criminals, so to fit all the clues, B1 has to be innocent.
For D1 and D2, we don't have enough information before B1 is revealed because the options of them both being criminals or both innocent each fit the clues up to that point, making the choice a guess. After B1's clue, the choice is clear.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 2 pts · 218d
And the clue from Tom about Zara and Igor sharing neighbors... What? There's two rows between them. They don't share a neighbor. Or is my definition of a "neighbor" wrong?
Bademantel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 218d
Yes. I assume you mean Sofia? She has eight neighbors in total, two she shares with Igor. Both are innocent according to Tom.
There is also a tutorial which helped me a lot.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 1 pts · 218d
Sorry, i meant Uma. She says Two innocents below Igor are neighbors of Zara
squaresinger@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
I was stuck at the same one.
First take Peter's hint. It says that one of Sofia and Wanda is innocent, one is criminal. That means in Column B we know there are two innocents, two criminals and Bruce.
Now take Gabe's hint: there cannot be three criminals in Column B.
If Bruce were criminal, there would be three criminals in Column B, so Bruce cannot be criminal.
Bademantel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler With the information that Peter (D3) and Gabe (B2) provided, it's clear that Bruce has to be innocent. :::
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 2 pts · 218d
What does either of those clues have to do with Bruce, or even Row 1?
Bademantel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 218d
Gabe: Column A is the only column with exactly 3 criminals.
Peter: There are 5 innocents neighboring Tom.
Given this combination we know that Bruce is innocent because either Sofia or Wanda have to be a criminal and because there cannot be exactly 3 criminals in column B: Bruce is innocent.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 218d
I'm also curious how Gabe provides anything.
Also, it must've glitched or had an intention it wasn't letting on.
Bademantel@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
I copied my answer. I don't know what you mean by glitch. The puzzle works with the given information.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 218d
you’re missing something. been playing for a few months, only one time ran into a bugged puzzle and Sam had it corrected within a couple hours of release.
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 2 pts · 218d
Yeah, it seems I need to give myself more time to properly think through the clues
Dupelet@piefed.social · 6 pts · 219d
Pretty disappointing that it doesn't allow you to access old puzzles.
badabim@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 218d
You can access them through the wayback machine
Dupelet@piefed.social · 1 pts · 218d
Nice, thanks!
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 218d
Sign up for his newsletter and he emails out the previous week's puzzles, as well as since bonus ones.
SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 218d
their business model I guess
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 219d
Or that there's lack of logic in current ones.
UnityDevice@startrek.website · 6 pts · 218d
I've played this game for over a month now, maybe two, and I haven't encountered a single instance of that happening. The next answer is always deducible by logic. I have gotten stuck plenty of times, and a few times I even thought the game was totally and definitely wrong, only for me to realise that I missed something.
If you continue playing, you should know that the games get harder as the week goes on. The weekend ones tend to sometimes take me 15-20 minutes to work out.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 218d
I just found out my problem is it must've glitched, cause I had the clues for two guilties and it said I didn't have enough evidence, and the give me was Bruce, which it really shouldn't have been.
Gibibit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 218d
The clues for Bruce are tough but its correct
acosmichippo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
there isn’t.
angband@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 218d
I just tried guessing and it let me pick bruce, but I don't see a clue for it.
squaresinger@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
I was stuck on the same one.
Take Peter's hint: It says that either Sofia or Wanda are criminals, so there's exactly 2 confirmed criminals, 2 confirmed innocents and Bruce on Column B.
Now take Gabe's hint: There cannot be 3 criminals on Column B, so Bruce needs to be innocent.
angband@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
got it, thanks
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 218d
I love this game! Since a streamer I like was playing it once, I've been hooked. If anyone is having trouble, scrolling down in the page had some explanations of some clues.
popcar2@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 218d
Pretty clever and surprisingly difficult, I was stuck on Bruce for the longest time.
Dupelet@piefed.social · 3 pts · 218d
Wonder if there's enough interest in this to create a comm for it. Or maybe a more generic 'daily game' thing
SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 218d
!dailygames@lemmy.zip
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 218d
https://cluesbysam.com/s/help/bfea995f8025?state=AGIQ-AAAADAA%3D-120
It won't let me continue no matter who I pick or what I pick
ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 218d
Look at Oscar and Tom. How many innocents in row 5? What does that mean for Sofia's other neighbors?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 217d
That was fun. Three mistakes before I got it.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
I'm pretty stuck on this one. https://cluesbysam.com/s/help/01c315cae125?state=bEzQ-AAAAAAA%3D The hint has me pointed towards C5, but only based on a hint about edges. There are 5 unknown people on the edges, not counting two in the left corner of which one is innocent and one is guilty. So I have no idea what its clues are trying to say matters here.