WASHINGTON (AP) — The wife of Renee Good, the woman shot and killed in her car by a federal immigration agent in Minneapolis, says the couple had stopped to support their neighbors on the day of the shooting and described the mother of three as leaving a legacy of kindness.
“We had whistles. They had guns,” Becca Good said in a written statement Friday that was provided to Minnesota Public Radio.
The statement was her first public comment about the death of Renee Good, 37, who was killed Wednesday after three Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers surrounded her Honda Pilot SUV on a snowy street a few blocks from the couple’s home. Video taken by bystanders show an officer approaching the SUV stopped across the middle of the road, demanding the driver open the door and grabbing the handle.
Trump administration officials have painted Renee Good as a domestic terrorist who tried to run over an officer with her vehicle. State and local officials in Minneapolis, as well as protesters, have rejected that characterization.
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robocall@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 242d
Bring guns next time
silvadinlabop@lemmy.cafe · 50 pts · 242d
That whole neighborhood should have brought out guns at that moment.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 242d
That would've ended with a lot more of the neighbors dead.
So are you showing up to protests like this armed? If so, does it work?
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 51 pts · 242d
Of course it works. Armed protests have always been a pretty successful strategy in the US.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -27 pts · 242d
Show me.
amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz · 56 pts · 242d
Black panthers
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -41 pts · 242d
Show me in the last decade.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 28 pts · 242d
How's the unarmed protests going for you, seems like the administration don't care about words in the least
xtr0n@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 242d
This is a little old, 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff
This COVID protest is more recent: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52496514
I think anyone to the left of Biden taking guns to protests is risking their life but armed right wing nutbags never seem to get beaten and killed at protests.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -12 pts · 242d
I appreciate the links, but the government is on both of these people's sides. They weren't going to get hurt by them.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 242d
The armed people defending Drag Queens comes to mind.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 241d
This is one that actually makes a good point. I wonder how this kept it peaceful (no sarcasm).
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 242d
Show me a time in the last decade citizens holding hands and singing songs stopped the government.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 10 pts · 242d
Show me any truly successful protest in the last decade. We're getting record attendance numbers but seeing no change because nobody cares to listen. We stopped succeeding when we stopped coming armed.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
Its because protests aren't disruptive anymore anymore. We "follow" the protest rules the government laid out, because they know it doesn't work
amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 242d
Thats irrelevant, but as a counterpoint: why wouldn't protestors want to be armed? Its your right just like the freedom to protest, so why not exercise it?
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d
Not entirely the same thing but is related.
https://m.soundcloud.com/llbdpodcast/episode-127-the-battle-of-athens
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
1811 German Coast slave uprising The Whiskey Rebellion John Brown and Harpers Ferry Billy the Kid vs the Regulators The Coal Miner Rebellion 1860 Abolistionists Black citizens of the South vs the KKK for decades The Black Panthers Leftists gun clubs guarding Drag Queen Story Hour at libraries
The more you look, the more incidents you find.
suodrazah@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 242d
bagsy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 242d
ICE is happy to kill for a paycheck, i suspect they aren't being paid enough to die for one.
suodrazah@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 242d
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 242d
The Black Panthers bore arms and escorted people. The establishment became much more respectful of the innocent, when they didn't have a monopoly on violence.
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 241d
Power to the people ✊
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 241d
These are different times.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
History doesn't repeat itself. But it sure does rhyme. Look what is happening in Iran. That's our future of we don't show our teeth. I don't want the violence to get worse and I don't think we are there yet, but if it does get there I don't want the other side to have an easy time killing us.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 241d
Run the experiment. Don't just say so.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 241d
Yes, you should and come back and tell us how it went if you can.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d
Oh, I'm happy to. But I'm one person. Organized armed resistance is the way to go. So that's why I'm calling for more. Fighting fascists is a good way to go.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 241d
Can't wait to see you on the news, I hope it goes the way you want.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 242d
I want violence to be the last thing we try. But letting them think we won't use violence is not working
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 241d
Nah, remember all the times the right protested while armed? Remember all the times the law came down hard? Me neither.
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 241d
That's because the right and law enforcement are the same thing.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d
There are more on the right than just cops. But conservatism is the philosophy of cowards, and that's why the cops didn't fire on them.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 241d
Some of those that work forces
username123@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 241d
Are the same that burn crosses
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 3 pts · 242d
Do like the Bundys, or the Republic of Texas separatists.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 242d
Except the government was on their side.
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 242d
The gov't sided with the seperatists? Sure.
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 241d
It's been repeatedly demonstrated that a line of calm riflemen backing protestors prevents police from rioting or doing anything they shouldn't.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 242d
Not necessarily, it would be more akin to a mutually assured destruction kind of thing
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 242d
https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-richmond-virginia-charlottesville-us-news-2c997c92fa7acd394f7cbb89882d9b5b
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 242d
You realize that those are the same side as ICE and the cops, of course they're going to be fine.
You guys sure shoot out a lot of pro-violence when you're either using a cheat code (you're on the same side) or you're staying at home being a keyboard warrior. It's like you're a politician that sends other people's kids off to war.
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 242d
Yeaaaa no, the majority of those people are anti-atf types. That doesn't negate the point though, there was 0 law enforcement trying to do fuck all there.
Also please STFU. I protested with BLM marches with other left leaning people being armed. Every time we were there the cops stood way the fuck back.
optissima@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 242d
Which state?
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · -13 pts · 242d
Yeah okay, that happened. Sure.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
It did.
Inside John Brown Gun Club And Other Left-Wing Gun Groups https://share.google/u1bCT3xnGK5nFAQ3h
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 15 pts · 242d
I mean, yes, I guess we're going that direction, but the fact we've gotten to this point is horrible.
I'm more for neutralizing the threat before defensive measures are needed. Like, where is the actual authority to stop these killers? ACAB and all that, but people are above the cops, and someone at some point needs to do the job they're paid to do in protecting the public. It may get to the public fending for itself, but it shouldn't.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 11 pts · 242d
The authority to stop this was an uncorrupted government that cared to stop it, which we haven't had in a while. Hell, we've gone so far past it that they're actively encouraging it now. While this symptom is relatively new, the disease has been progressing for decades. Once the government stopped keeping the police in line, and the people stopped caring to fix the government to get that back on track, it was inevitable that we'd need to revolt to bring things back. Now the question is whether or not that will be enough. I hope it is.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 242d
We found a cool laser mod for our Minecraft server, thermal expansion compatible.
zd9@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 242d
What's that ole saying?
"Armed minorities are harder to oppress"
athatet@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 242d
The trees can’t be harmed
If the Lorax is armed
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 242d
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 241d
manxu@piefed.social · 43 pts · 242d
I am terribly sorry for what happened to Renee Good. I have watched the videos over and over and I really don't understand how anyone could come to a conclusion different than "power tripping ICE agent murders woman in cold blood because he felt slighted by her declaring she was ignoring his order."
That said, the narrative of fear the administration is pushing requires someone armed and dangerous. Renee Good died unarmed, but she is dismantling a whole story line in her innocence. They tried to portray her as a monster, because the reality is they are.
I remember seeing a report that accused her of using her "enormous SUV" to attack people. She drove a Honda Pilot. It's really hard to find a car smaller than that in America, these days.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 242d
Ironically, said by the people who drive lifted trucks as their dailies
frongt@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 242d
The Pilot isn't an enormous SUV (that would be something like the Cadillac Escalade), but Honda alone makes the CRV and HRV which are smaller SUVs. Plus sedans like the Civic. It's not hard to find smaller cars, but when you have three school age kids the Pilot makes sense.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 242d
The Honda pilot is enormous
The Honda pilot is an SUV (in the marketing crossover sense and common terms)
however yes it is not an enormous SUV, it is just both of those things independently
I don't follow your logic for three school-age kids and the pilot making sense.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 242d
Three kids need seats plus cargo space for bags, sports equipment, their friends, etc. Like you could fit everyone into a CRV, but it starts to get real tight when you add bags and stuff. I'm pretty sure her Pilot was also fairly old, not the biggest newest one.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 242d
man people really do forget that minivans were made for this specific purpose and do it way better than a crossover
frongt@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 241d
In what way?
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 241d
just about every way
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 241d
Except for AWD. I think the Pacifica does on higher trims, but Christler... Ew. And the Sienna Hybrid comes in AWD, but once again that's a more expensive/premium trim. In a place like Minnesota, I could see why the Pilot might make more sense. I say this as an owner and huge fan of my Honda Oddessey.
bbboi@feddit.uk · -3 pts · 241d
Conceptually modern small/mid-size SUVs and minivans are the same.
A grand caravan is 15 inches longer than the Pilot, 1 inch wider and 7 inches taller.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 241d
doors, internal layout, and shape of the cabin are far more functional on the minivan
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
Yup. Wayyyy more space as a general rule. You can fit 7 people in minivans.
If you know, you know.
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 242d
The fedposting in this platform is getting rather heated
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 241d
Please explain
INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 238d
Well you see
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 241d
The only cars I know that are smaller are about 20 years old at minimum or are imported Kei trucks. The fact that it is only mildly bigger than my 4 cylinder 2001 Toyota Tacoma without its shell tells ya how small it is.
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 241d
sepi@piefed.social · 21 pts · 242d
Well get guns, then. Whistles don't shoot.
Aljernon@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 241d
This is 100% why the Left likes to repeat the Karl Marx quote:
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 241d
Guns are a problem in this country for certain, but the majority of people making that problem are on the RIGHT. They live in a culture of might makes right so being violent is the ultimate display of power. The number of left leaning shooters compared to right wing is insignificant.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
It's less insignificant than you think.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 241d
FBI official report on political terrorism in the past 20 some odd years showed like 5 left leaning acts. Dozenss by the fundamentalist righties.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 241d
Who said anything about left wing terrorism?
This is about peaceful and armed political protest.
Edit: Ooooh, when you say shooters, you mean mass shooters.
When I say shooters, I mean firearms enthusiasts.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 241d
Yeah, there's a misunderstanding here. Hope we've clarified it. :)
thenoirwolfess@lemmynsfw.com · 18 pts · 242d
Black ICE got a whole new meaning
As in completely enshrouded in black clothing
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 241d
We need more self-defense (or rather community defense organizing) classes now more than ever. For Renee Nicole Good.
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 241d
There are leftist gun clubs. There needs to be more though.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 242d
Turn up the heat. Melt the ice.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 241d
I'm very sorry for what happened to Renee Nicole Good. The government (through ICE) is really all up in our shit. Get the damn government outta here. Seriously!
drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 241d
We need guns to protect ourselves from other gun owners. Not even joking those are just the facts of our nightmare. Guns will never go away.