the power in these men pointing is nearly palpable
Democrats go all in on affordability in bid to turn voters against Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/12/democrats-affordability-trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/12/democrats-affordability-trump
the power in these men pointing is nearly palpable
101 Comments
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 112 pts · 226d
To be clear they have "the other guy is shooting moms in the face on national television" and they went with this instead.
greasewizard@slrpnk.net · 31 pts · 226d
they went with "trump bad" in 2024 and we all know how that turned out for them.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 226d
Crazy how easy it is to win over voters by focusing on anti-fascism and affordability instead of just "I'm not the other guy"
So easy even a brown muslim socialist in the heart of America could do it
jankforlife@lemmy.ml · -23 pts · 226d
You mean the CIA fake leftist plant? LMBO!
Postimo@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 226d
Are you censoring yourself saying ass?
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 226d
Is that what he's doing? I read it as "limbo", and thought he was making the commentary of "how low can we go?"
I'm not saying I agree with that statement. I'd openly support a socialist president. Just so long as he doesn't diddle kids, or murder americans. That feels like a really low bar, and yet we aren't clearing it.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 226d
Yikes
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 226d
(shoots a mom in the face)
(turns toward camera)
"How can Americans afford this?"
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
cue The Office theme song
Wow, the show really went downhill since Micheal left....
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 226d
The other guy is also a known pedophile.
The other guy is also a known rapist.
The other guy is also a known racist.
The other guy is also a known fascist.
We legitimately have the first guy in history that's actually WORSE than literal Hitler. I cannot ever remember anyone saying Hitler was a pedophile. Plus, at least Hitler had a cat.
Omg, I can't believe I'm over here putting Hitler in a good light compared to anyone else.....but here we are.
It reminds me of a thing that was said by Jim Cornette once. If you've never heard of him, Jim Cornette is/was a tv personality in pro wrestling during the 1980s. Not a wrestler, but a manager. The important thing to take away from this is that to say he's a very opinionated person is an understatement.
So, in the 1980s he was working in wrestling in the same organization as a guy named Ole Anderson. He's not important, other than to say in the 1980s Cornette hated the guy.
Then by the 1990s, Cornette is in a different organization working for a guy named Bill Watts. Again, he's not important other than to say that EVERYBODY hates Bill Watts.
Flash forward to around 1997, and he's working alongside a guy named Vince Russo. And of anybody in life, he has hated Russo more than anyone on the planet. He's been quoted in modern times as saying that his plan is to live at least 1 day longer than Russo, just so he can piss on his grave before he dies.
So in 1998 when he briefly met up with Ole Anderson, the guy who he used to hate the most in the 1980s, he said this to Ole:
"There was a time I thought you were worst person walking this planet. Just an absolute scum and absolutely miserable to be around. I actually have a list of people I hate the most. You used to be number one on that list. Well then I met some of these other jackasses, and you've moved down the list, simply by not doing anything differently. I just now have the displeasure of meeting everybody else."
And thats the quote that modern times reminds me of. Hitler has moved down the list simply by not doing anything different just because we now have the displeasure of knowing Trump.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 225d
Look into Geli Raubal's suicide. There's a strong chance he diddled his half-niece when she was underage.
Kornblumenratte@feddit.org · 5 pts · 225d
The "truth" is "poor mom mislead by left hate speech went rogue and an innocent good guy was forced to defend himself". At least in the MAGA world.
Moms being murdered won't convert a single MAGA, they'll cheer it on as long as they are told this mom was aedomestic terrorist.
Affordability affects even the most brainrot MAGA supporter personally.
MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 226d
Bringing a knife to a gun fight, …again.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca · 36 pts · 226d
looks like just fingers tbh
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 226d
Bringing finger guns to a gunfight.
optissima@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 226d
Bringing stern pointing to a gun fight
mlg@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 226d
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 226d
Is there a year that doesn't apply.???
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 33 pts · 226d
Maybe say something about the Stormtroopers all over our nation killing us? Maybe say something about torching all alliances? You can't be this fucken idiotic, can you? Unless... Maybe... The Citizens United crowd wants this?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 226d
"My opponent wants to send 10,000 armed men to the border to begin seizing women and children, summarily executing any vaguely hispanic looking men, and looting them for their most valuable belongings before casting the survivors out into the desert to starve. And I say we need to consider whether all the money for this program could be better spent on a means-tested plan to subsidies charter schools in low income minority neighborhoods."
Fully unironically. Jesus fuck.
aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com · -16 pts · 226d
spaghetti_hitchens@fedia.io · 20 pts · 226d
I will vote for anyone whose platform is abolishing ICE and prosecuting them and the rest of this administration
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 226d
That certainly wouldn't be the duopoly
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 6 pts · 226d
Yeah, I'm a single-issue voter until further notice and this is my single issue.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 225d
You'll never get a chance. Closest you'll see is a paper shredder labeled "third party" for you to put your ballot in.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 226d
Really? ICE is out there brown shirting, but this is what they focus on?
Hegar@fedia.io · 12 pts · 226d
Affordability AND anti-corruption would be better.
That would give them a mandate to go after regime insiders for their many openly committed financial crimes.
But the Dems would rather let fascism win if the alternative is jailing the rich for their crimes.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 226d
A lot of the Dems are corrupt. They have the same donors, the same insider trading, cut the same deals with corps, foreign investories, etc, and the get a cut of the pie.
The reason they didn't prosecute Trump etc, is because then they'd open up themsevles to prosecution for a lot of the same shit. Hence why they foot dragged and just hoped he'd go away.
The reason to become a rep in american politics is to get rich, or richer. It's not to serve your country or make people's lives better. That disappeared in the 90s. Most it's entirely pay to play.
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 225d
Ummm they should be going all in an affordability becauae the country is suffering. Would they just ignore it if the president was Dem?
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 225d
Yes they would.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 226d
Lmao Chuck Schumer is trying to play this card? Hey, how did you feel about throwing away countless lives and money in Iraq and Afghanistan? How about all the money we're spending to help Israel commit genocide? Maybe if some of that had been spent on making things more affordable, we wouldn't be in this situation.
If Chuck Schumer actually believed that for a second, we'd be hearing about his resignation and suicide. It's just a soulless ghoul saying whatever voters want to hear, just so long as it doesn't involve bashing ICE.
DrFistington@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 226d
Guarantee pardons and cash payouts for people that liquidate Republicans and ICE. Use the tactics your enemies use, that you struggle to defeat. You will either win, or discover the flaws in your enemies tactics
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 226d
Universal healthcare and free college….for Israel
paultimate14@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 225d
I have to admit I actually agree with this. It's the one thing that can turn non-voters into voters.
A lot of Americans don't believe any of the Epstein stuff. They chalk it up to conspiracy or celebrity gossip. There's still alt of states where the unrestricted age of consent is 16, and where the age of consent can go as low as 14 depending on circumstances.
People are dying all the time. There's always another cop killing someone. These people don't believe it will happen to them. It doesn't happen in my neighborhood. It doesn't happen to people like me. The propaganda tells them the victim deserved it.
They don't care about Venezuela or Greenland. A lot of Americans probably couldn't identify those countries on a map anyways.
They care about their bills. Their struggle to survive. Trump beat Harris by focusing on the price of eggs. That's the key to defeating Trump. I don't LIKE it. I wish my neighbors were better educated, more motivated, and made better decisions. But that's the reality of America today.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 225d
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aramis87@fedia.io · 4 pts · 226d
I wish they wouldn't do this, because people are stupid. People are going to be like "I'll vote for the Democrats bc they're promising to try to fix things", without realizing how much time and effort that's going to take. Biden pulled off a miracle in his soft landing, yet they still voted Trump because the economy wasn't perfect again. And they simply cannot understand that the economy will never be perfect again.
Running on "we'll fix the economy" just sets them up for disappointment and failure, and they're too stupid to see that.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 226d
Biden had an amazing start, with a simultaneous Covid Vaccination Program and an Economic Stimulus Program, and both were wildly successful. That should have made him one of the top 10-15 presidents in history.
Then he appointed the most feckless Republican in history to be his AG, who slow-walked Trump's cases and gave him a two year head start to run out the clock, which is a Trump specialty. The result allowed MAGA back in power.
Now Biden will be in the bottom 10-15, along with those pre-Civil War Presidents who let it happen.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 225d
He also refused to push to keep them
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 226d
It was more denial of a genocide while providing weapons and money to continue the genocide they claimed wasn't happening, then it was the economy
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 226d
IIRC exit polls cared WAY more about the economy. Most Americans do not care about Palestinians at all.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 226d
the economy is perfect for rich people.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 226d
The problem is the messaging. The old farts in the Democratic party don't know how to use social media. And even old timers here in Lemmy don't want to admit it, social media is the new frontline to win hearts and minds of voters. Not many people watch televisions these days or read newspapers, a lot of information are coming from social media.
Social media is part of the problem for misinformation, but even in the early days of the platform, it was used to organise authentic democratic grassroots protests from Arab Spring to Occupy Wall Street. Even Obama knew the importance of social media and he was called the first social media president for a reason. The younger generations leftist politicians are realising how adept the right has been with social media, and kudos to the likes of Mamdani for co-opting back the platform to organise for the left.
GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 226d
On the right side candidates can't not be perfect - so it's always easy for them to vote for their candidate
On the left side candidates will never be perfect - so it's always easy to not vote for their candidate.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 226d
You cannot win elections by being "not the other guy".
gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 225d
Eh, I think they can win one round of elections by doing that, but only one. To get reelected they actually have to do something once they're in office.
borf@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 226d
Unless the other guy is Hilary
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 226d
Worked in Canada...
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 226d
But they'll try that method again, 8th time is gonna be a charm
bagsy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 226d
I want a candidate as pissed off as I am. I'm not voting for another old rich man, i dont give a shit which party he claims to represent.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
Let’s do eggs again. I don’t know about prices but I’ve already had two grocery trips this year where there were no jumbo eggs
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
While the country is being ripped to pieces, the (other) out of touch old farts can't think of something of substance to say, so instead the faff around, more at eleven.
devolution@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
Until they don't.
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 226d
We haven't forgotten we also had an affordability crisis when they were in power.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 226d
And have no desire to get rid or ice or homeland security
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 226d
Their answer was to boost funding to the highest levels
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -2 pts · 226d
I can't wait for all the leftists on here to tell us why we shouldn't vote for democrats.
apftwb@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 226d
Tell me if this sounds familiar.
Demand a leftist candidate.
A centralist candidate wins the nomination.
Vote for lesser of two evils.
Lose election because they were unpopular
Blame leftists
Maybe Democrats could try doing better.
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 0 pts · 226d
It's like you're trying to do the breast stroke during a hurdles match. The system is broken and only two parties are viable. Who you vote for president won't change that, but could have had one genocide instead of two plus all the internal strife. Fix the two-party problem, then demand better of your presidential candidates. The alternative has only worked about 3 times in the history of the United States.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 226d
By voting only for congressional candidates who support alternatives to FPTP?
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 225d
This is probably something that would have to be fixed at the state level before going federal. Either way, until FPTP is replaced, pretending that isn't the system in place isn't going to change it.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 225d
So if you're in Maine or Alaska, then it's already time to demand it federally from candidates?
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 225d
It's time for other states to look at it, for groups in those states to use Alaska and Maine as working examples of the benefits, and for Alaska and Maine to start working on an Amendment to change how the president is elected.
But none of that changes the fact that how or if you vote for president will have any bearing on the voting system or cause it to change.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -5 pts · 226d
We could have had Clinton and Harris and we'd be in a way better place right now but I keep hearing bitching about the democratic nominees from people with no intention of organizing a party or candidate let alone even vote.
apftwb@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 226d
What do you want me to do? Vote third party in the Presidential election? Won't I be wasting my vote?
Run a popular platform then. Clinton and Harris were status quo candidates. Clinton was a continuation of Obama. Harris was a continuation of Biden. They lost because they didn't run a good campaign. They lost because they didn't change tactics to address Trump.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 226d
Wow did you just admit to not voting?
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -2 pts · 226d
Biden was one of the best presidents since Jimmy Carter though I’d love to have his policies continued.
Better than seeing Americans being shot in the face by ICE.
grue@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 226d
Biden deliberately appointed a Republican AG who let Trump walk, and thereby brought about the destruction of the country. That, by itself, is immediately disqualifying for being a good president, regardless of whatever else he did.
He's going to be remembered on par with James Buchanan, at best.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -4 pts · 226d
The American voters decided that Trump should be president again by a landslide and you think they’d be able to get a jury to find him guilty?
apftwb@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 226d
Honestly, Biden did a very good job picking up the pieces after Trump. But ultimately he was returning to a status quo that didn't (couldn't?) address the problems with late stage capitalism. I don't blame Biden, I blame that lack of choice in our Democracy.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -3 pts · 226d
The American voter turned around and gave Trump his biggest win ever after that so they’re down with this shit.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 226d
Oh well that totally makes it fine for Biden's AG to slow walk the investigation AND let Trump pick the judge
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 225d
When your entire platform is we are not trump, then proceeding to be exactly like him, is a turn off to people.
Harry Truman 1952
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 226d
We wouldn't be headed to a better existence with Harris. She was barely to the left of trump, her entire campaign ran like a first-term Trump Republican.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -2 pts · 226d
Renee Good would disagree.
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 226d
Rather arrogant of you to speak for the dead
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 226d
Working hard to throw the next election to the Republicans, yet again, I see.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -10 pts · 226d
Give me a better option then voting democrat.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 226d
Demand a better options from Democrats instead of brainlessly cheerleading their constantly losing strategies.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -12 pts · 226d
Give me a better option then voting democrat.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 226d
You're looking for "than", not "then".
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 226d
Unless
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -1 pts · 226d
Your right.
grue@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 226d
Fucking braindead strawman argument. We're demanding better Democrats, not third-party losers.
Quit insulting people's intelligence, pretending we don't understand game theory.
gdog05@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 226d
You're absolutely not wrong. And these people that constantly counter anything less progressive than their perfect idea of progressive give me vibes of "spoiling the opposition from both sides" and feel astroturfed a lot of times.
But that said, we fucking need progressive policies and candidates. I myself polished the Overton Window for far too long as discourse kept harming more and more people. We need politicians working passionately for the people and against corporate power. We need to fight for progress and fight even harder against fascism. And we need to convince people along the way. No more status quo. But I'll be damned if I'll let perfection stand in the way of improvement.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -3 pts · 226d
I vote the best I can during primaries and the least worse I can during generals.
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 226d
We've been right in every instance, but the issue is we are always right too early.
During Biden's presidency he nor Democrats could do no wrong in this community, and a comment like yours would have had a hundred upvotes. Fast forward to Biden being out of office and the general consensus is Democrats are worthless, spineless, and betrayed us. The general consensus is what leftists were saying all along.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -2 pts · 226d
You can be right all you want but without candidates or a party it doesn’t fucking matter.
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 226d
That's another failing of voters, never demanding better. Willing to accept whatever neoliberal they let the party throw at them.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -6 pts · 226d
EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 225d
I'm not the one over here having a meltdown. Anyone that's lost 2 elections to a carnival barker needs to sit this out
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -2 pts · 225d
And how many have progressives won?
I’m pretty sure the democrats win or nearly win every election.
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 226d
Weird how now they're doing this and not demanding anything of substance as usual like doing anything about ICE?
jankforlife@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 226d
Democrats? You mean right-wing PR team! The ones you vote in to "fix things" after the repubs does everything the D's also secretly want but can't say outloud and only does it surface level until the repubs can get in power again to ratchet ever further to the right
Vote BlueMAGA if you want, but you're still MAGA if you vote for them
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -3 pts · 226d
Put up a better option then we'll talk.
jankforlife@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 226d
Seems like there's an amendment for this, that one after the 1st seems like it was almost written for it this exact purpose hmmmm
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · -6 pts · 226d
You're going to go head-to-head with the US military?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 226d
Biden still didn't earn our votes so we need to refuse to vote until the democrats learn their lesson!!!
Err, Biden isn't running? Really? Are you sure? Oh, shit, it's Kamala?
Yo dog, that bitch has an ugly smile so fuck her. Besides, she isn't a man so why would you vote for her at all? Oh shit, is that on? I mean, she is so unlikeable that she can't win so you might as well just stay home until the democrats learn their lesson.
(fast forward a few years... hopefully)
AOC? She would do so much better in the Senate so don't vote for her. Newsom? He is a transphobe. Err, he is too much of a transphobe for people who don't like that and not enough of a transphobe for people who do. Novelty american flags for the rest of the people who don't vote.
Bee tee dubs, have you seen these tiktoks out of china and russia? Now THAT is how you run a country.