I get really irritated when my phone limits volume with a notification like this, because the phone has no idea what hardware I have playing the sound. They've made some unfounded assumption about how loud 80% volume actually is, and interrupt whatever I'm doing to complain about it
One of my past phones had that feature, but you had to turn it on. I guess it would be a good function if you always listen via the same hardware. Or maybe per Bluetooth device at least.
I have it now, and as far as I can tell it can't be turned off. Really annoying when volume level doesn't sync with the Bluetooth head unit in my car and this feature suddenly halves my volume
My current phone has it turned off, so I constantly get notifications about how the high volume could be bad and recommending me to enable the feature... It drives me crazy, I have it at max volume because it is connected to my car's audio jack and I use the car's controls to manage the volume...
Yup! I use an aux cable in my car and then all of a sudden I'm driving in silence. I tried settings and developer settings, but this behavior persists.
Mine fucking resets every few months... it just decides I need to re-up the "I understand I'll go deaf" notification while I'm in the middle of a drive.
Mine too, and I am connected with Bluetooth! My car has a warning telling me to set my phone to max volume as radio controls are separate.
Every few months I am left wondering why the volume is so low and having to look at my phone's tiny text and touch the screen at the right place to hit the right one.
And the output from the phone is so quiet even with my phone at Max volume I have to crank my stereo up on order to hear it. Switching input from Aux to anything else without lowering the volume first is what's going to damage my hearing.
I dont have this problem because i have extremely sensitive hearing but still, seeing my phone say im "listening to 20db" for example, really got me thinking about how the hell would it know that.
TBF, if you're doing it properly you should be using any exrarnal audio at line level and amplify it outside your phone to keep all audio devices at a standard level, it prevents some devices from playing too loud and some playing too quiet it also prevents clipping.
That's pure wishful thinking. The vast majority of users wouldn't even know what line level is, and you can't expect end users to have audio engineering expertise. You also can't expect anyone other than an audiophile or actual audio engineer to be able to get alll of their consumer electronics conform to such a standard
Devices used to have a dedicated line out you were never supposed to use headphone ports on external devices so technically you are just working outside of the standard, so technically your device is incompatible with all those external devices you are using, what we really need is a new protocol that is designed to keep everything at the same level on external devices.
Given that we're discussing the behaviour of phones, I'm quite certain that there was never a time when they generally had line out ports.
Also, I can't imagine people are connecting their Bluetooth speakers to the wrong interface.
What you're describing is still wishful thinking, because there's no world where every consumer device is going to have accurately calibrated volume regardless of whether there's a protocol which specifies it.
If we're discussing Bluetooth that is entirely on the manufacturer to make sure it is seen as an external device instead of headphones if your device is showing as an external device and you are still getting that message then it is a bug with your phone.
But anyway you look at it a head phone port was designed for headphones exclusively and using it in any other way is incorrect , we have a work around it's called line out and it should never go above line level line out is lower than a headphone port so the audio warning should not affect it at all if it does you are either not amplifying your audio correctly or the manufacturer made it incorrectly.
Using an Aux cable I have to crank my stereo up to be able to hear it even with my phone set to max volume. It doesn't have an output level that's a reasonable volume.
I have this issue with my soundbar on my TV. The volume has to be like 95% or it's too quiet. But if you disconnect the soundbar and just use the TV speakers you get absolutely blasted out of the room by normal speech.
This would always happen right at the start of a long motorcycle ride. Suddenly the music stops and all I can hear is the engine. 30 minutes later and stop and investigate and it's a pop up warning that the audio level is too loud.
What? Is this a volume control limit, then? I thought it was just a parental feature that caps how often they can listen to music on their earbuds (which seems absolutely insane to me), but I guess volume control would make a bit more sense.
earbuds are the most damaging type of headphone except maybe bone induction. i would want volume control for me if i would use earbuds (hell no, i use cans. trying out some boners with my bike but they're a hard maybe).
I wonder if it depends on the phone. I remember seeing it a bunch which was super annoying when I was just using the aux in my car. My 2 year razr doesn't seem to care if my ears bleed at all. I saw the message once when I got it and it never returned.
Literally always have my volume at maximum have never seen this particular screen. Sometimes I've seen just the basic toast notification that they don't recommend raising the volume more but I can just keep pressing the button to raise it anyway i've never seen a full last screen going about a limit
AI Assistant: I am sorry, but your headphone volume cannot be turned up past this point unless you get a note from your audiologist. Would you like for me to put on some soothing AI interpretive jazz?
56 Comments
MartianSands@sh.itjust.works · 143 pts · 212d
I get really irritated when my phone limits volume with a notification like this, because the phone has no idea what hardware I have playing the sound. They've made some unfounded assumption about how loud 80% volume actually is, and interrupt whatever I'm doing to complain about it
autriyo@feddit.org · 27 pts · 212d
One of my past phones had that feature, but you had to turn it on. I guess it would be a good function if you always listen via the same hardware. Or maybe per Bluetooth device at least.
MartianSands@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 212d
Agreed, perfectly reasonable precaution so long as it's possible to calibrate it per device
0ops@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 212d
I have it now, and as far as I can tell it can't be turned off. Really annoying when volume level doesn't sync with the Bluetooth head unit in my car and this feature suddenly halves my volume
Dentzy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 211d
My current phone has it turned off, so I constantly get notifications about how the high volume could be bad and recommending me to enable the feature... It drives me crazy, I have it at max volume because it is connected to my car's audio jack and I use the car's controls to manage the volume...
apex32@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 212d
Yup! I use an aux cable in my car and then all of a sudden I'm driving in silence. I tried settings and developer settings, but this behavior persists.
FinalRemix@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 212d
Mine fucking resets every few months... it just decides I need to re-up the "I understand I'll go deaf" notification while I'm in the middle of a drive.
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 212d
Mine too, and I am connected with Bluetooth! My car has a warning telling me to set my phone to max volume as radio controls are separate.
Every few months I am left wondering why the volume is so low and having to look at my phone's tiny text and touch the screen at the right place to hit the right one.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 211d
And the output from the phone is so quiet even with my phone at Max volume I have to crank my stereo up on order to hear it. Switching input from Aux to anything else without lowering the volume first is what's going to damage my hearing.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 212d
I dont have this problem because i have extremely sensitive hearing but still, seeing my phone say im "listening to 20db" for example, really got me thinking about how the hell would it know that.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 212d
Ios lets you mark a Bluetooth device as a car stereo and it stops doing that. Maybe other device types too. Just make sure it's not set as headphones.
I'm sure Android has a way out too
defrostedLasagna4921@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 212d
Yes, my Samsung has that option.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 212d
Yeah also, they don't understand that I'm fucking hard of hearing. Yes my audio is loud, that way I can hear it
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 212d
TBF, if you're doing it properly you should be using any exrarnal audio at line level and amplify it outside your phone to keep all audio devices at a standard level, it prevents some devices from playing too loud and some playing too quiet it also prevents clipping.
MartianSands@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 212d
That's pure wishful thinking. The vast majority of users wouldn't even know what line level is, and you can't expect end users to have audio engineering expertise. You also can't expect anyone other than an audiophile or actual audio engineer to be able to get alll of their consumer electronics conform to such a standard
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
Devices used to have a dedicated line out you were never supposed to use headphone ports on external devices so technically you are just working outside of the standard, so technically your device is incompatible with all those external devices you are using, what we really need is a new protocol that is designed to keep everything at the same level on external devices.
MartianSands@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 212d
Given that we're discussing the behaviour of phones, I'm quite certain that there was never a time when they generally had line out ports. Also, I can't imagine people are connecting their Bluetooth speakers to the wrong interface.
What you're describing is still wishful thinking, because there's no world where every consumer device is going to have accurately calibrated volume regardless of whether there's a protocol which specifies it.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 212d
If we're discussing Bluetooth that is entirely on the manufacturer to make sure it is seen as an external device instead of headphones if your device is showing as an external device and you are still getting that message then it is a bug with your phone.
But anyway you look at it a head phone port was designed for headphones exclusively and using it in any other way is incorrect , we have a work around it's called line out and it should never go above line level line out is lower than a headphone port so the audio warning should not affect it at all if it does you are either not amplifying your audio correctly or the manufacturer made it incorrectly.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 211d
Using an Aux cable I have to crank my stereo up to be able to hear it even with my phone set to max volume. It doesn't have an output level that's a reasonable volume.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 211d
I have this issue with my soundbar on my TV. The volume has to be like 95% or it's too quiet. But if you disconnect the soundbar and just use the TV speakers you get absolutely blasted out of the room by normal speech.
Measuring sound as percentages is meaningless.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 211d
Or different media types. Video games I have on about 20%. TV and Youtube is 35-50%. Blu-rays and DVDs are on 100% so you can hear them at all.
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 209d
This would always happen right at the start of a long motorcycle ride. Suddenly the music stops and all I can hear is the engine. 30 minutes later and stop and investigate and it's a pop up warning that the audio level is too loud.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 212d
People yearn for tinnutus and hearing loss
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 212d
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEyou’ll have to speak upEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 212d
MAWP MAWP
bassomitron@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 212d
What? Is this a volume control limit, then? I thought it was just a parental feature that caps how often they can listen to music on their earbuds (which seems absolutely insane to me), but I guess volume control would make a bit more sense.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
earbuds are the most damaging type of headphone except maybe bone induction. i would want volume control for me if i would use earbuds (hell no, i use cans. trying out some boners with my bike but they're a hard maybe).
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 211d
Why would bone conduction be more damaging than other types of headphones?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
I don't know, but they're new. Hardly any research has been done
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 212d
helps to mitigate a lot of the bullshit people say and drowns out the stupid TV commercials at the gas pumps.
three@lemmy.zip · -24 pts · 212d
Of course. It's another thing to use for pity points.
QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 42 pts · 212d
i listen to YouTube videos essentially the entire day (yesterday 8 hrs) and here's my levels:
here's my cat
FoolHen@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 212d
What app is that?
lauha@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 212d
That's not an app. That's a cat.
diemartin@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 212d
/usr/bin/catQuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 212d
it's my pixel phone settings app, iirc it's only for the google pixel buds
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 212d
Cute cat đź‘Ť
RogueBanana@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 211d
The type of feet pics I am into. Let me squish em.
kungfuratte@feddit.org · 24 pts · 212d
What fresh hell is that?
ikidd@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 212d
Like the max volume warning on Android since forever?
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 212d
Only ever used android since smartphone were a thing, never saw this once.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
Comes up all the time, and I've used android phones for almost 17 years. Maybe you don't leave your music volume pegged all the time?
Lenggo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
I wonder if it depends on the phone. I remember seeing it a bunch which was super annoying when I was just using the aux in my car. My 2 year razr doesn't seem to care if my ears bleed at all. I saw the message once when I got it and it never returned.
LordKitsuna@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
Literally always have my volume at maximum have never seen this particular screen. Sometimes I've seen just the basic toast notification that they don't recommend raising the volume more but I can just keep pressing the button to raise it anyway i've never seen a full last screen going about a limit
echodot@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 211d
Nope. I've just turned my volume up to max settings and then kept my finger on the button nothing comes up it just stops increasing in volume.
I feel left out, like Android doesn't care about me.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 211d
Depends where you live
echodot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 211d
In a house.
kungfuratte@feddit.org · 3 pts · 212d
I've never seen that. Is it maybe a regional regulatory thing? I'm in Germany.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 211d
Please drink verification can to increase volume
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 211d
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 211d
I have seen this hundred times yet it still makes me chuckle.
icelimit@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 212d
What even is this limit? I've never seen this before?
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 212d
AI Assistant: I am sorry, but your headphone volume cannot be turned up past this point unless you get a note from your audiologist. Would you like for me to put on some soothing AI interpretive jazz?
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 211d
Take care of your hearing, people.
Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 212d
Rock is best loud, who listens to queen on vol level 3
Jomega@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 212d
If they were really concerned about me damaging my ears, why not make the maximum volume lower than that?