Gregory Bovino has been removed from his role as Border Patrol “commander at large” and will return to his former job in El Centro, California, where he is expected to retire soon, according to a DHS official and two people with knowledge of the change
So he gets a nice comfy retirement
Bovino’s sudden demotion is the clearest sign yet that the Trump administration is reconsidering its most aggressive tactics after the killing Saturday of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by Border Patrol agents under Bovino’s command.
He's getting fired because he flubbed the PR. Their lies were too audacious and too easily disproven to be fully accepted at desired numbers within their base. Steven Miller is reportedly one of his main detractors.
The symbolism in the movie is apparently in contrast to the book, which glorified war and the human side. The director decided to take it another direction and it was a fucking great decision
The book itself does not glorify fascism but rather shows a fascist future human society.
Heinlein wasn't a fucking a Nazi and the "allure" of this weird future fascism is the point on which the reader is supposed to reflect.
First: The book does not glorify historically existing fascism, no.
But I believe that it is at least a half-serious argument, that Heinlein actually believes that a society like the one in the book wouldn't be the worst.
I don't believe that Heinlein supported racism or the oppression of "lesser" people. He made that point pretty clear, in interviews, life choices, other stories or by famously revealing (iirc) that Ricoh was brown-skinned.
But the militarism, united humanity in a hostile universe, the weird ideas about authority and merit, and the per aspera ad astra part? I do believe that he's at least in part making a sincere argument, wrapped in an action story as a vehicle. The world he creates resonates too well with Heinlein's biography, imho.
Sadly, most viewers (at least, the most vocal ones here in America) really don't understand that movie and end up glorifying the humans by the end. Media literacy is something we need to teach better
I kinda suspect that the administration was told or it was heavily suggested by higher ups in the military that "yeah...if you go with this insurrection act we're not going to have your backs on this one." Otherwise why would they be throwing Bovino under the bus for this?
What has happened thus far is apparently what they wanted according to project 25 but like I said I suspect they don't have the support of the people they NEED the support from.
It would be nothing short of miraculous if that plan falls through just because it became wildly unpopular. This brings two things to mind:
It would explain why there's a phased rollout of worse and worse policy with a lot of improv along the way. Otherwise, all this shit would "just happen" inside the first year.
It's not hard to imagine these asswipes acting in a retaliatory manner for not getting their way. But what's worse is to imagine a failing MAGA or P2025 cabal "going for broke" if it appears they're all but finished, should we get there. IMO, we should all be prepared for both.
Then I heard him on TV, trying to sound tough with a voice like a cartoon character. These guys really have a weird vision of who is cool or scary. Stephen PeeWee Himmler Miller thinks he sounds tough, and he always sounds like a screeching weenie. I guess this is what a tough guy looks like to him.
The way responsibility has been diffused throughout the command structure is exactly what RICO is for. That said, I don't think it's ever been used on a Federal agency before.
I hope he retires and tries to live out in the general public. Lets see him try to go to the grocery store or eat in a restaurant. At minimum he'll have spit in all his food for the rest of his dumbass life, assuming he doesnt end up in prison for his civil rights crimes under color of law.
72 Comments
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de · 172 pts · 211d
Token changes to mollify people. Don’t slow down.
lolo@sh.itjust.works · 62 pts · 211d
100%. This is the beginning. We will NEVER forget.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 211d
New scapegoat incoming.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 211d
Time to whip out the Mooches again
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
Fun fact: You want to laugh at the Mooch extra hard look up his dipshit crypto shark tank on youtube.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 210d
This is the first time in a while this admin has thrown a scapegoat out instead of just puffing up their chest and saying “nah”.
It’s not much but it shows the pressure IS working. Keep going.
return2ozma@lemmy.world · 113 pts · 211d
frongt@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 211d
Now what kind of material did Nat Geo have in their magazines he might have found arousing, I wonder?
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 211d
As someone who hit puberty at 8 and had to get creative with my fap material. Nat Geo has a surprising amount of tits.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 211d
You like tits?
I won't judge your kink.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 211d
Fucken knew someone was gonna post this. I am happy that you did.
lemming741@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 210d
That's a nice pair
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 211d
neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 211d
Boobies!
fartographer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 210d
Someone should put shoes on them, look how cold their feet are!!!
KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca · 90 pts · 211d
Good. Now try him for his crimes.
Montagge@lemmy.zip · 89 pts · 211d
So he gets a nice comfy retirement
Lol. No.
witten@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 211d
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz · 35 pts · 211d
He's getting fired because he flubbed the PR. Their lies were too audacious and too easily disproven to be fully accepted at desired numbers within their base. Steven Miller is reportedly one of his main detractors.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 211d
I wonder who Miller has lined up to replace him?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 210d
I hear Pakled Homan is being called up.
primalmotion@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 210d
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 82 pts · 211d
He needs to retire into a prison cell.
Solrac@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 211d
Solitary confinement
kurmudgeon@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 211d
Or at the end of a noose.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 211d
Firing squad would be more poetic, no?
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 210d
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 210d
I'm convinced!
baronvonj@piefed.social · 3 pts · 211d
the short route home
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 73 pts · 211d
It's afraid
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 211d
Ironically, NPH is the Nazi in that movie. They even wear the same coat.
phx@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 211d
The symbolism in the movie is apparently in contrast to the book, which glorified war and the human side. The director decided to take it another direction and it was a fucking great decision
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 211d
I have to admit, the book makes a great argument for "fascism" / military meritocracy, plus it's just a easy to read action book.
I still think the argument is very flawed, and it's a good thing that Heinlein (iirc) never had children to raise.
But do read it, it's a decent book with an interesting argument.
I_Clean_Here@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 210d
The book itself does not glorify fascism but rather shows a fascist future human society. Heinlein wasn't a fucking a Nazi and the "allure" of this weird future fascism is the point on which the reader is supposed to reflect.
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 210d
First: The book does not glorify historically existing fascism, no.
But I believe that it is at least a half-serious argument, that Heinlein actually believes that a society like the one in the book wouldn't be the worst.
I don't believe that Heinlein supported racism or the oppression of "lesser" people. He made that point pretty clear, in interviews, life choices, other stories or by famously revealing (iirc) that Ricoh was brown-skinned.
But the militarism, united humanity in a hostile universe, the weird ideas about authority and merit, and the per aspera ad astra part? I do believe that he's at least in part making a sincere argument, wrapped in an action story as a vehicle. The world he creates resonates too well with Heinlein's biography, imho.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 210d
Yeah, it is trying to show that a united authoritarian Earth could work if we have aliens around to be the enemy 'other'.
Personally, I prefer the movie's take on it.
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 210d
Sadly, most viewers (at least, the most vocal ones here in America) really don't understand that movie and end up glorifying the humans by the end. Media literacy is something we need to teach better
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 210d
I genuinely had no idea how people could misunderstand the movie, until I met such people. It is weird.
Etterra@discuss.online · 26 pts · 211d
More likely he's the sacrifice they hope will get the engaged masses to focus on so they can continue unchanged.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 210d
yeahhhh. watch the movie again, the aliens were not the bad guys.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 210d
True. Just the meme goes like that. But I should probably watch it again anyway. I think I saw it 10+ years ago.
rozodru@piefed.social · 52 pts · 210d
the first scapegoat.
I kinda suspect that the administration was told or it was heavily suggested by higher ups in the military that "yeah...if you go with this insurrection act we're not going to have your backs on this one." Otherwise why would they be throwing Bovino under the bus for this?
What has happened thus far is apparently what they wanted according to project 25 but like I said I suspect they don't have the support of the people they NEED the support from.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 210d
It would be nothing short of miraculous if that plan falls through just because it became wildly unpopular. This brings two things to mind:
It would explain why there's a phased rollout of worse and worse policy with a lot of improv along the way. Otherwise, all this shit would "just happen" inside the first year.
It's not hard to imagine these asswipes acting in a retaliatory manner for not getting their way. But what's worse is to imagine a failing MAGA or P2025 cabal "going for broke" if it appears they're all but finished, should we get there. IMO, we should all be prepared for both.
asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 52 pts · 211d
Should be sent directly to The Hague, do not pass Go.
meh@piefed.blahaj.zone · 47 pts · 211d
peak of his career really did turn out to be prancing around at a few gas stations in an ugly coat trying to look tough.
time for more local organizing while they try a new tactic.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 210d
Then I heard him on TV, trying to sound tough with a voice like a cartoon character. These guys really have a weird vision of who is cool or scary. Stephen PeeWee Himmler Miller thinks he sounds tough, and he always sounds like a screeching weenie. I guess this is what a tough guy looks like to him.
almost1337@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 211d
Once again, he just goes along with whomever he spoke with last
Corngood@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 211d
Unfortunately Walz asked him to fire this guy when he could have asked him to behead Stephen Miller.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 211d
To be replaced by someone just as bad I'm sure.
SlippiHUD@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 210d
I think minnesota could probably get him on some form of Dereliction of Duty/RICO and throw in felony murder.
hector@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 210d
Accessory after the fact. Grab his ass in a blue state, send him back to mn, in an unmarked car.
new_world_odor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
Give that motherfucker a 'rough ride' and see how he feels about it. This is great news.
Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
In the trunk, preferably.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
Waste of fuel
hector@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 210d
Given that he would probably get bailed out by the feds, it would be a shame if he had a medical condition in jail awaiting extradition.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 210d
The way responsibility has been diffused throughout the command structure is exactly what RICO is for. That said, I don't think it's ever been used on a Federal agency before.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 211d
I sure hope they don't let these characters just slink off into the shadows, never to face any consequences whatsoever.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 210d
That's why you carve a Swastika on the their foreheads.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 25 pts · 211d
Twin Cities are creating a legend for themselves. Incredible resistance.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 210d
The Freedom Capital of America.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 211d
I hope he retires and tries to live out in the general public. Lets see him try to go to the grocery store or eat in a restaurant. At minimum he'll have spit in all his food for the rest of his dumbass life, assuming he doesnt end up in prison for his civil rights crimes under color of law.
Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 210d
Get fucked
CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 210d
He barely had time for one photo op though. Gestapo Greg was looking forward to lowering the bar even more so he can reach it.
radiouser@crazypeople.online · 14 pts · 210d
Nice comfy retirement for him now.
Ironfist79@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 210d
Not when the lawyers are done.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 211d
Bye 👋
We'll always remember you unfondly. Hope whoever they replace you with isn't somehow fucking worse
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 211d
Hopefully he downloaded the Epstein files on the way out
hector@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 211d
Ha, they will be misfiled to prevent anyone doing that, or court order forcing them. The explosive stuff anyway, if not destroyed.
Also though copied to prez's legal fixers, and maybe others. Prez is a lifelong blackmailer.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 211d
Etterra@discuss.online · 8 pts · 211d
That's a good start.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 211d
It’s not a start. It’s a performance.
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 206d
I know.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
Finally, some accountability. Can’t imagine a worse punishment than being sent to El Centro.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 210d
Good riddance you sack of shit! Prosecute the racist loser too.
DCErik@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 210d
Back to making shitty cookies in a tree with Jeff Sessions.