You want one where a substantial amount of the fat is present in the muscle and evenly spread throughout. It's tasty and as the moisture evaporates out of the steak the melting fat soaks into the meat, keeping it tender and juicy.
Salt also softens meat, in part because of its effects on moisture evaporation temperature changing in the solution, but just as importantly because salt is what naturally forces muscle to relax in a living body as well as a cut of meat. That's why body builders eat bananas, they have potassium salts.
Never made the connection, but
when I was in human anatomy class, we removed the thigh muscle from a frog, hooked it up to a seismograph, and shocked it, to track the spasm.
As the shocks went on, it would eventually cramp up. Putting saline solution (salt water) on it, would release the cramp, and you could do the experiment again.
That's a direct example of salt making a muscle relax. I never thought to connect it to marinating meat.
Yep, a seismograph. Mine was a vertical version, but yeah, the same thing. You suspended the muscle, with a pen attached somehow (I don't remember, it was decades ago), and when you shocked it, the muscle would spasm, and write on the rolling paper. As the spasms increased, the markings would be smaller, until it seized up, and drew a straight line. Then you'd douse the muscle with saline, and you could do it again, although the results were less dramatic on subsequent runs. It seemed like the muscle would eventually just fatigue, and not be as revivable by saline. So we only had to repeat it a few times.
And it wasn't just one experiment, being done by the teacher in front of everybody. We all had our own seismographs, and had to kill and dissect our own frogs. It was a real hand-on class, and was one of the best high school classes I've ever taken. It was a college level pre-med class, and I've used the info I learned in that class every day throughout my entire life.
I also tend to look for a thicker cut, since you can cook it more gradually to develop a good texture throughout without overcooking, and still develop a good crust.
You also want to dry brine it, that is 12-24 hours before cooking rubbing it with salt and leaving it uncovered in the fridge
Then before cooking, let it warm up on the bench
If you have a particularly good cut, you can warm it to room temp, then put it in a mixture of salt and water (20% salt) at freezer temperatures for 20 minutes before drying it and searing it. You'll get a perfect crust and also perfect edge to edge consistency with no bands of overcooked meat
Okay, so that was a wild story, but... 'not having a head' doesn't really make me think of 'has most of the brain stem and an ear.' It's not much different than humans that have no higher brain functions and are on feeding tubes.
So is eating vegetables. In order for you to live, something has to die.
I'm not knocking your veganism. I fully support your choices. But I harbor no illusions that all life requires death to survive. And much of that death is actively done by all creatures.
Eh, equating animal lives to human lives is a bit too much for me but, as long as you're at least as empathetic for people as you are for cattle, your kindness cannot be denied. 🤷
Cats and dogs have real personality, even if they aren't as big brained as human. We protect even wild ones because we understand they are conscious.
A dog is like a vegan, wouldn't eat the owner after they died.
Factory farms are abhorrent and should be done away with, eating meat is natural and there is nothing wrong with it. I can respect your view but your choice to be annoying and openly disrespect other views makes you just another common jackass.
I just want to point out that something being "natural" does not inherently make it ok. Killing other creatures of the same species (murder) is "natural", rape is "natural", stealing is "natural".
The entire point of ethics/morality is to distinguish between the natural things which we find good, and the natural things we find bad and want ourselves and others to stop doing.
My point being that if you want to defend eating meat as morally ok, you should do so without the "appeal to nature".
Are you comparing a handful of dead people to several million animals getting brutally killed per day? The biggest difference between the holocaust and animal agriculture is the intent to exterminate the entire group for good.
I find it harder to take seriously someone who has their head in the sand and believes in some supernatural supremacy of a particular species of monkey
Indeed, the amount of slavery in the modern world's supply chains is enormous. We exploit child slaves in far away places so we can bankrupt ourselves trying to provide for our kids here at home. I dare say, it's quite the flawed system we have built for ourselves.
So only two parties are involved? What about the parties who produced the thing? Built the thing? Grew the thing? Harvested the thing? Cooked the thing? Packaged the thing?
In the case of industrial farms I agree. But I grew up less than a full generation from the family homestead in what's now Wasilla. I'll never be convinced to go full vegan, but I have cut my meat intake by half over the last year
Because it is, you know, pieces of corpse? Does that not strike you as an odd thing to inspect? Do you regularly find yourself inspecting corpses despite not being a medical examiner?
Fair point. However, if you were more aware and perhaps critical of the carnist culture we are brought up in, you might see more for what they are the knee-jerk reactions to any pointing out the fact that, maybe, possibly, we shouldn't treat other sentient, living beings capable of feelings and suffering like they were disposable objects?
It's always a bit amusing to see people immediately go hard the other way when you point out the very obvious and factual: "uh, guys, this is corpse".
I suppose you think nature is vile. I’m sorry the animals live in bad places before they are killed, but folks need meat. Easiest way to get protein for many people. I doubt your hard stance will ever convince anyone.
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jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 82 pts · 210d
I'm just browsing. We don't have the money for that.
janus2@lemmy.zip · 35 pts · 210d
me at Sephora lmao
(i have makeup at home)
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 208d
The makeup at home:
janus2@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 208d
lol me when i fuck up the eyeliner
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 39 pts · 210d
You want one where a substantial amount of the fat is present in the muscle and evenly spread throughout. It's tasty and as the moisture evaporates out of the steak the melting fat soaks into the meat, keeping it tender and juicy.
Salt also softens meat, in part because of its effects on moisture evaporation temperature changing in the solution, but just as importantly because salt is what naturally forces muscle to relax in a living body as well as a cut of meat. That's why body builders eat bananas, they have potassium salts.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 209d
Never made the connection, but when I was in human anatomy class, we removed the thigh muscle from a frog, hooked it up to a seismograph, and shocked it, to track the spasm.
As the shocks went on, it would eventually cramp up. Putting saline solution (salt water) on it, would release the cramp, and you could do the experiment again.
That's a direct example of salt making a muscle relax. I never thought to connect it to marinating meat.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 209d
I bet you could make a sick marinated frog leg
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 6 pts · 209d
Frog leg is soft like fried chicken, doesn't really require it.
qarbone@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
I marinate for flavor, not for soft meat.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 208d
This is the way
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 208d
How many times did you need to do this to get the point? I feel like seeing it once, gathered around the teacher, would be plenty.
Also, a seismograph?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 208d
Yep, a seismograph. Mine was a vertical version, but yeah, the same thing. You suspended the muscle, with a pen attached somehow (I don't remember, it was decades ago), and when you shocked it, the muscle would spasm, and write on the rolling paper. As the spasms increased, the markings would be smaller, until it seized up, and drew a straight line. Then you'd douse the muscle with saline, and you could do it again, although the results were less dramatic on subsequent runs. It seemed like the muscle would eventually just fatigue, and not be as revivable by saline. So we only had to repeat it a few times.
And it wasn't just one experiment, being done by the teacher in front of everybody. We all had our own seismographs, and had to kill and dissect our own frogs. It was a real hand-on class, and was one of the best high school classes I've ever taken. It was a college level pre-med class, and I've used the info I learned in that class every day throughout my entire life.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 210d
I also tend to look for a thicker cut, since you can cook it more gradually to develop a good texture throughout without overcooking, and still develop a good crust.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 210d
You also want to dry brine it, that is 12-24 hours before cooking rubbing it with salt and leaving it uncovered in the fridge
Then before cooking, let it warm up on the bench
If you have a particularly good cut, you can warm it to room temp, then put it in a mixture of salt and water (20% salt) at freezer temperatures for 20 minutes before drying it and searing it. You'll get a perfect crust and also perfect edge to edge consistency with no bands of overcooked meat
i_need_your_bones@piefed.social · 9 pts · 210d
Haha yeah I think you look beautiful with or without makeup babe
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 209d
I think you're beautiful with or without meat
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 208d
Me, looking at all the things I wished I could afford.
HexesofVexes@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 208d
The comments section:
mattyroses@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 208d
Women be shopping . . . .
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 208d
I love me some cow meat, but these days I stick with chicken with no antibiotics. Cow meat is too expensive.
Any species that can live 18 months without a head is barely alive in the first place.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 208d
Okay, so that was a wild story, but... 'not having a head' doesn't really make me think of 'has most of the brain stem and an ear.' It's not much different than humans that have no higher brain functions and are on feeding tubes.
sexy_peach@feddit.org · -1 pts · 208d
::: spoiler where it comes from https://youtu.be/9hd78EW73xs&t=119 :::
merde@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 209d
meat is murder
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 209d
That's why I always buy any meet that costs 6.66 or has the weight of 6.66. who am I to deny the power of Satan.
Bluewing@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 208d
So is eating vegetables. In order for you to live, something has to die.
I'm not knocking your veganism. I fully support your choices. But I harbor no illusions that all life requires death to survive. And much of that death is actively done by all creatures.
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 209d
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 208d
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 208d
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 207d
For every downvote I’ll eat a porterhouse. 😂😂😂
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 204d
For every upvote I will skin an infant alive 😂😂😂
pickman_model@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 209d
Yummy murder
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 208d
Slaver mindset
pickman_model@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 208d
No issues with that on my end :-)
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 209d
Eh, equating animal lives to human lives is a bit too much for me but, as long as you're at least as empathetic for people as you are for cattle, your kindness cannot be denied. 🤷
axus@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 208d
Cats and dogs have real personality, even if they aren't as big brained as human. We protect even wild ones because we understand they are conscious. A dog is like a vegan, wouldn't eat the owner after they died.
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
My cat would but I still love my fluffy demon. 😅
0xD@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 209d
What despicable human beings are replying to your truthful comment. Keep up the good fight 💚
merde@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 209d
🤜🤛
i don't care about the replies or the downVotes. This should be reminded every time.
Soulg@ani.social · 4 pts · 209d
Animals aren't people killing them isn't murder
Factory farms are abhorrent and should be done away with, eating meat is natural and there is nothing wrong with it. I can respect your view but your choice to be annoying and openly disrespect other views makes you just another common jackass.
Kacarott@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 209d
I just want to point out that something being "natural" does not inherently make it ok. Killing other creatures of the same species (murder) is "natural", rape is "natural", stealing is "natural".
The entire point of ethics/morality is to distinguish between the natural things which we find good, and the natural things we find bad and want ourselves and others to stop doing.
My point being that if you want to defend eating meat as morally ok, you should do so without the "appeal to nature".
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 208d
merde@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 208d
you are not a lion. you're a pathetic ape.
BlackDragon@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 208d
Murder isn't something that can only be done to people.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 208d
By definition, yes it is
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 208d
Then that's a useless and arbitrary definition
BlackDragon@slrpnk.net · -2 pts · 208d
Nope.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 208d
Nature is fucked up
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 0 pts · 209d
Good thing I love murder.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 209d
Ice is that you?
Soulg@ani.social · 6 pts · 209d
Are you comparing undocumented immigrants to animals?
Kacarott@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 209d
I suspect they might be referring to the thing they replied to, the sentiment "I love murder"
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 208d
humans are animals
Agent641@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 209d
Are you comparing your own mum to an upstanding lady who has never prostituted herself for a cheeseburger?
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 209d
Are you comparing a handful of dead people to several million animals getting brutally killed per day? The biggest difference between the holocaust and animal agriculture is the intent to exterminate the entire group for good.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 208d
It's shit like this that makes it so people cannot take you seriously
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 208d
I find it harder to take seriously someone who has their head in the sand and believes in some supernatural supremacy of a particular species of monkey
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 207d
You're right, eating meat is the same as the Holocaust
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -3 pts · 209d
That's why they're called it. Because they ice anyone they want.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 209d
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 208d
that is why i exclusively buy stuff from nestle and donate all of my leftover money to Trump and Jk Rowling
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
I'm just trying to get by, I buy exclusively whatever is cheapest
BlackDragon@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 208d
Then you're vegan? Because the cheapest foods are rice, beans, potatos, etc.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
I'd say more towards vegetarian, but for sure.
Bad@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 208d
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 208d
Love this meme, was trying to sympathise with my comment tho. Didn't realise how apathetic it has come across to everyone. Oops.
howrar@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 209d
Some are less unethical than others.
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 209d
Indeed, the amount of slavery in the modern world's supply chains is enormous. We exploit child slaves in far away places so we can bankrupt ourselves trying to provide for our kids here at home. I dare say, it's quite the flawed system we have built for ourselves.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 208d
I don't think you understand why that phrase is used
king_comrade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 208d
Tell me your interpretation, my friend
IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org · 2 pts · 208d
Sure there is
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 208d
Go on...
IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org · 1 pts · 206d
Most consumption under capitalism is ethical. Both parties agree on an exchange rate for services and mutually benefit.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 205d
So only two parties are involved? What about the parties who produced the thing? Built the thing? Grew the thing? Harvested the thing? Cooked the thing? Packaged the thing?
IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org · 1 pts · 196d
You can apply that recursively
Inucune@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 209d
So make sure that livestock did not die in vain. Prepare it properly.
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -2 pts · 209d
Is it okay for me to kill your baby as long as I eat it afterwards?
Inucune@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 208d
Cannibalism is a quick path to prion disease. I don't recommend eating other humans.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 208d
Yes, go for it.
Bad@jlai.lu · -10 pts · 208d
So all it takes to bait Lemmy into showing their psychopathic side is three words.
Pathetic community unworthy of the high regard it holds itself in.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · -12 pts · 209d
The animal is already dead, it's even more disrespectful to waste it's body.
rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 209d
You're paying animal agriculture to harm more animals.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website · 0 pts · 208d
In the case of industrial farms I agree. But I grew up less than a full generation from the family homestead in what's now Wasilla. I'll never be convinced to go full vegan, but I have cut my meat intake by half over the last year
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · -7 pts · 209d
Good.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -10 pts · 208d
If you want your meat-sucking manchild partner to live longer and be a kinder person, maybe do hurry him away from the corpse aisle
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 208d
As kind as you? Oh please describe the steps!
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 208d
Hope you're taking your supplements
axx@slrpnk.net · -16 pts · 208d
His "happy place" is a display of corpse parts?
ComradePedro@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 208d
Right? You could put some neatly cut and packaged human remains on that display and no one would tell the difference. Def not my “happy place”
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 208d
I'm not even vegan, though we do vary our diet and avoid red meat, and yeah, steak worship is just weird AF.
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 208d
Don't people inspect the fruits and veggies before they buy too? Why is this steak specific
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 5 pts · 208d
I'm convinced vegans aren't even from this dimension. They have such a weird view of the world that's completely detached from the rest of humanity.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 208d
So strange to believe in things like not harming others and acting ethically
axx@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 208d
Quite bizarre, indeed. What's next, caring about others in general? Where does it end!
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com · 1 pts · 208d
Vegangate is actually about ethics in animal journalism ☝️🤓
axx@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 208d
Are you aware that this is broadly what wanton cruelty – and lack of empathy about it – sounds to people who see it for what it is?
Such a bizarre worldview, to find unnecessary death and suffering normal and even desirable.
axx@slrpnk.net · 0 pts · 208d
Because it is, you know, pieces of corpse? Does that not strike you as an odd thing to inspect? Do you regularly find yourself inspecting corpses despite not being a medical examiner?
axx@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 208d
You can basically tell how spot on an anti-speciesist comment is by looking at the angry downvotes. Thanks folks!
HarneyToker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 208d
“Anti-specist” is wild lmao
axx@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 195d
TYL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 0 pts · 207d
So is "I'm more righter the more downvoted I am"
Those kinds of comments never seem to ask themselves if the same standard holds true for other comments.
axx@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 195d
Fair point. However, if you were more aware and perhaps critical of the carnist culture we are brought up in, you might see more for what they are the knee-jerk reactions to any pointing out the fact that, maybe, possibly, we shouldn't treat other sentient, living beings capable of feelings and suffering like they were disposable objects?
It's always a bit amusing to see people immediately go hard the other way when you point out the very obvious and factual: "uh, guys, this is corpse".
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 207d
the speciesism wiki entry is very good, with well-formed arguments in favor of speciesism.
Fraction9170@infosec.pub · -1 pts · 208d
It really is quite vile, isn't it?
axx@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 208d
Yup. Compounded by how much otherwise sentient and supposedly caring people insist there is no problem. It's all very normal.
HarneyToker@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 208d
I suppose you think nature is vile. I’m sorry the animals live in bad places before they are killed, but folks need meat. Easiest way to get protein for many people. I doubt your hard stance will ever convince anyone.