Edit, since people are now seeing this post who did not see the the reason for it:
At the time of creating and posting this, there was an account that was created using a well known username and spamming extremly transphobic hate posts. Some users were starting to interact with this very obvious troll, so I thought it might be a good idea to generally remind people how to treat these trolls. This is not about some light hearted banter or good faith jokes, this is about trolls that are truly only about spreading hate.
65 Comments
Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com · 39 pts · 199d
Instance block chatgptjailbreak.tech. Another set of problems solved.
GoldenDeLorean@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
Could someone please explain how to block an instance from boost for Lemmy, or if I had to do it from lemmy.org?
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 4 pts · 199d
Sure. Click your profile top right -> settings -> Blocks -> Block instance
Zagam@piefed.social · 22 pts · 199d
Hey discord, my age verification is that I remember when trolls were named after people that went trolling for fights and flame wars by leaving a trail of bait-posts.
Either way though, don't feed the trolls and stop making stupid people famous.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 199d
this is the only definition of an internet troll I know
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 199d
um, i would like to apply for an exception please. some day i would like to be famous for a piece of art i make eventually and i am very, very stupid.
Zagam@piefed.social · 3 pts · 199d
Ha. Fair enough but if you make art, thats not the kind of stupid I mean,
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
oh it's a worse stupid. there was a dude who once put a bunch of oversized beach umbrellas every 50 meters along the spanish riviera for like 20 miles (i think i'm remembering the story right) and it was gorgeous and everything and a beautiful work of art until the wind picked up and not all of the umbrellas were 100% solidly anchored because beach wind and so they started rolling down the coast and like those things are sharp and if i recall he got charged with involuntary environmental ecoterrorism and i've always kind of been inspired by that
i'm thinking something with kudzu
Zagam@piefed.social · 2 pts · 199d
Thats fucking awesome. Its like a cross of Andy Goldsworthy, Christo, and the Cat in the Hat.
If you ever need a hand, I'm right here.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
thank you i will definitely need a second getaway driver
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 199d
That person really has a hate boner for the 2 people they are impersonating.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 199d
TheBat@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 199d
0ops@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 199d
Mac@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 199d
I actively run 12 accounts, myself! You wouldn't believe how much self-arguing we do!
this is a joke
ameancow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
Mac@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 199d
Oddly enough, every single one.
Mac@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 199d
Nice try, pal.
Mac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 199d
You guys are hilarious. /eyeroll
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 199d
You’d really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be an asshole?
Una@europe.pub · 9 pts · 199d
Can I eat the trolls? 🥺
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 199d
I won't kinkshame.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 199d
You can. But it hurts to pass their little tummy gems. Those don't digest.
BillyClark@piefed.social · 7 pts · 199d
Very good advice. But if you have some sort of personality defect that makes you occasionally engage with trolls like I do, here is some additional advice:
Make your comment less effort than the trolls. Don't argue every point. Focus on their weakest point.
Essentially, if you can't resist responding to a troll because you're an idiot like me, make it like one short sentence where you point out their biggest mistake, and then if they respond to you and you respond back, keep doing that and never let them change the subject. At least you're causing them to waste effort.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 4 pts · 199d
BillyClark@piefed.social · 4 pts · 199d
k
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 199d
famine is not a moderation policy
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 199d
There's only so many trolls on the internet because of people bridging their network. If there were no bridges, the trolls would have no where to live. 😌
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 199d
Countertrolling is more fun, though :(
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 199d
You can't countertroll someone who's just spitting hate.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 199d
You vastly underestimate my abilities
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 199d
Ok, Anakin.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
are you okay anakin?
0ops@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 199d
You've been hit by
You've been struck by
Light-based weaponry
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
tomiant@piefed.social · 4 pts · 199d
Have you got any examples? Because in my experience a lot of the time people who are block happy just happen to have extreme views they refuse to have challenged and rather just stick their heads in the sand so they don't ever have to entertain the possibility that they're wrong.
Blocking just creates echo chambers, leading to group think effects and fanaticism.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 199d
https://t.feddit.org/modlog?other_person_id=13878687
I did not make this post out of nothing. The accout with that modlog was created and just started to spam maximally offensive transphobic shitposts over multiple communities. And because people started to comment and argue with that account, I felt some should be reminded to not feed trolls.
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 199d
I saw another account from the same instance spamming porn, it probably is one trolls self hosted instance the instance should probably be banned.
tomiant@piefed.social · 0 pts · 198d
Hmm, I can't see anything in there, if anything it just reinforces my suspicion that those are frivolous bans and deletions based on your personal political biases, because it reads as if you personally got offended and decided who should be able to say anything. You still haven't showed otherwise. Nothing compels you to, but for what it's worth I think we should be a little bit more restrictive about abusing moderation powers, or we are going to end up like reddit all over again.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 198d
You can't see the transphobia in "trans people should kill themselves" and "trans people are pedophiles"?
All right, time to follow my own advice. Bye.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 4 pts · 199d
Yeah, even in instances where one side is clearly right, it's still important to be challenged often enough to know exactly why it's right. As soon as you're comfortable enough with "knowing" something is right without being able to explain why, you risk believing things that "feel" correct but might not be. You don't have to actually argue with trolls, but you should still see and process their arguments enough to formulate a counterargument in your head that would stand up to a hypothetical person arguing in good faith.
ageedizzle@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 199d
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 2 pts · 199d
No! Argue with the porn! Haha, yeah, definitely block that kind of crap.
Siethron@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
What if their untrue statement is purely for a really good pun?
Inucune@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
I won't feed the trolls, but you (moderation) will in part need to remove them from under the bridges and banish them from the town squares. You may even have to remove them from your own ranks.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 199d
If you block a troll, then you will no longer be able to report or monitor their bad behavior. So the problem isn't solved.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 199d
That's why the steps are ordered this way. First report, then block. And if you want to, you can view the reported post while logged out, check modlogs, etc.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 199d
I meant future bad behavior. A lot of people view blocking as a last resort and I think that's a valid viewpoint.
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 199d
Just read my post text. This is about accoints that usually should get banned outright anyway.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 199d
I block for my mental health. Bad behavior is for the moderators to worry about. I got enough shit going on in my life to be a vigilante on lemmy.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 2 pts · 199d
How does block work on Lemmy?
On Reddit you used to be able to block to filter out the spammers but they changed it so it didn't block their posts.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
On lemmy, if you block a user, you will not see any post or comment they make.
CXORA@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 199d
Surely not seeing their content does fix the problem.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 199d
Right, obviously blocking works for individuals. Just not for the wider community, as banning does.
CXORA@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 196d
... yes... which is why both tools exist, and why you should report people who break community rules before blocking them.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 196d
This isn't complicated. I don't have to block anyone and none of you can make me. I have my reasons.
Ps. I have a healthy blocklist and don't need the weird preaching anyhow.
CXORA@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 196d
Are you ... just looking to pick a fight?
No, you don't need to block anyone, but blocking is a useful and important tool.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 196d
Yes I'm insisting on fighting. /s
Kinda like you're insisting I block people even after I explained a rational reason that some people don't immediately block them
CXORA@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 192d
I literally didn't... I even explicitly said you dont need to block anyone. You might find fewer "trolls" if you bothered to read comments before responding to them.
HuePony@lemmy.ml · -8 pts · 199d
They using new one day accounts that will be deleted in 24 hours, so its useless to block them
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 199d
<.< This is an odd observation to be posted with a one day old account… 😅
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 199d
But op will starve!
other_cat@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 199d
The irony of people arguing with OP.
ghost_rider69@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 199d
Do you mean those types of people by the term trolls who often post nonsense stuff like this for no reason or nah?(I don't understand):
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 199d
To quote myself:
and
Not sure what is hard to understand about this.
GladiusB@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 199d
I needed this today
ghost_rider69@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 199d
well the fact that as human being myself I don't know everything that you do and the fact that I don't hear the word troll as in that sense often that's why it was hard for me to understand
KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 199d
I can't help it! They're trying to convince people voting is bad.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 0 pts · 199d
The irony of everyone voting on your comment.