Old magic

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ICastFist@programming.dev · 71 pts · 204d (12 replies)

Not only we burned CDs, we also RIPPED them

D_C@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 204d (1 reply)

You should not be speaking of this!!

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 204d

the sheriff's secret police will be along shortly for OP with tickets for a free mandatory vacation to the sheriff's secret luxury reeducation center and spa. speaking about the sheriff's secret luxury reeducation center and spa is forbidden.

einlander@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 204d

Didn't forget DVD Toasters

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 204d (8 replies)

“Rip. Mix. Burn.”

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 204d (7 replies)

Instead of the sound of a chainsaw, it's the sound of a 70x drive on the verge of exploding

toynbee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d (6 replies)

I thought the disks would shatter if spun much above 42x ...

But I was told that many moons ago so maybe my information is outdated. Or maybe it was just never accurate.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 203d (5 replies)

I mean, I think technically the "x" is the read speed, and not necessarily indicative of what the maximum RPM is.

toynbee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d (4 replies)

Ah, I was always told that ##x was how many times faster than some classic model of cd drive the disk was spun.

zebidiah@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 203d (3 replies)

I always thought listening to music was 1x = 76 minutes, so a 4x cd burner would burn a disc in like 4 minutes....

toynbee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d

Based on a few things, we were both right. Primarily I'm going to reference this (which corroborates what you said, except it claims 74 minutes):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_storage_media_writing_and_reading_speed

Something called "Ask Leo" does say there's a high risk of a disk shattering when spun above 48x, which is apparently equivalent to 24000 RPM. However, I can't vouch for the credibility of this site any more than I can for the person who originally made that claim to me (except that I think it was my dad and he was usually pretty dependable).

https://askleo.com/what_does_the_x_in_a_48x_speed_cdrom_mean/

Apparently Mythbusters demonstrated that a disk will shatter at 30000 RPM but, as sometimes happens, their methodology was criticized. This, it seems, is because they spun the disk on a Dremel rather than in a more realistic environment.

einlander@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 204d (5 replies)

Nero Burning Rome

chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 204d (4 replies)

I didn't catch that joke for decades.

einlander@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 204d (1 reply)

I mean it's icon was the colosseum on fire...

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 204d

the fact that so many people missed it is sad.

public education should be the nation's most important expenditure.

theywanttocontrolyou@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d

Just now got that it was even a joke.

mitch404@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 204d

I catch that joke now. I'm over 40.

TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 35 pts · 205d

"No, that's my pc's retractable drink holder."

U7826391786239@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 205d (15 replies)
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teft@piefed.social · 35 pts · 205d (2 replies)

Or burning a data cd of mp3s not realizing that your player will only play audio cds.

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ICastFist@programming.dev · 6 pts · 204d

That usually only happened once. Was kinda sad that my radio couldn't play the 100+ songs, but at least the computer still could and I needed the free space.

cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 204d

gotta get the adapter for your disc man that plugged into the car cassette deck

grue@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 204d (9 replies)

Most kids back then probably didn't either, because they would've hooked the tape recorder up to the line out port on their computer if they wanted to do that.

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chaogomu@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d (7 replies)

My friend, no one had a laptop in the 90s. They didn't become cheap enough for that until the early 2000s.

grue@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 204d (4 replies)

I didn't say laptop, I said "computer." You dragged the entire desktop PC, including the 50 lb CRT monitor, across the house to the hi-fi system (or vice-versa), and you liked it!

(Edit: you do realize I'm talking about using the computer to record to a cassette tape and then playing the tape in the car, not hooking a laptop up directly to your car stereo, right?)

chaogomu@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 204d (1 reply)

I had the little CD to cassette tape adapter, I also drove around with a laptop in the passenger seat plugged into the aux port, which quickly turned into a cheap mp3 player.

grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d

I was an early adopter of the portable "MP3-CD" player (and a late adopter of the portable CD player in general, because that's the first I ever owned). That, the radio, and commercially-bought cassettes were the only ways I played music in my car as a teenager.

The point is, though, I was responding to the previous comment about "the hassle of burning a cd of mp3s and then recording the cd onto a cassette tape." I know there were other ways to do it, but I wasn't discussing them.

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 204d

Does no one remember LAN parties!?

teft@piefed.social · 1 pts · 204d

Across the house? I used to put mine on a wagon and drag it across town for lan parties. Lots of blankets to minimize bouncing and it was fine.

echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 204d

My uncle used to work for Microsoft back in the day and so he had one of the earliest commercial laptops. I think the laptop weighed more than he did.

It had the worst screen in the world it had a viewing angle of about 4° but everyone wanted to see it.

Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d

I had a laptop in 98.

Ran DOS, not even Windows. B&W screen, if you wanted color, you could press on the screen and get a glorious rainbow. There was no mouse integrated into the laptop. Instead there was a serial trackball mouse. It weighed probably 19 pounds and had an impressive 45 minute battery life.

It also may have fallen off the back of a truck. Computers were way less trackable back then.

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 203d
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 204d (6 replies)

nobody tell them about how we recorded songs from the radio and made mix tapes

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 204d (3 replies)
qaeta@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 202d

Also from magazines! I remember an issue of Dragon that had the code for a full game printed in it, and you had to copy the code to your computer by hand and compile it.

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d (1 reply)

Holy shit, I didn't know you could do that.

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 203d

It makes sense, if you don't care about giving a headache to whoever tunes in to the station.

8 bit software came, for most people, on compact audio cassettes (the same kind we used to record music from the radio and make mix tapes, and which could be rewound with a pencil), which could be played on a cassette player if you didn't mind the noise (data doesn't usually sound good), so it's no wonder at some point someone (probably several people independently) came up with the idea of broadcasting that noise.

Another means of distribution were magazines... but typing up the code was a chore, unless it was a POKE to cheat at your favourite game...

Gork@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 204d

You toss a bunch of tapes in a bucket and mix 'em together, then bring them the bucket. Simple.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 204d

Villain—his smile stuns ya chick

While he put himself in your shoes run ya kicks

You heard it on the radio, tape it

Play it in your stereo, your crew'll go apeshit

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 204d (1 reply)

We used fucking LASERS

protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 203d

Light Amplifier by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

stoy@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 205d

I remember burning some warez on a CD-R, getting a clean burn after 20min, and grabing a ballpoint pen to write the name of the warez on the disk.....

Sad times....

proudblond@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 204d (2 replies)

Also texting existed but was like 10c per text and would easily rack up huge phone bill charges. We used IM programs on the computer instead. No one relied on their cell phones to actually communicate outside of an emergency because they sucked and were expensive.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 204d (1 reply)

They also counted received texts towards your total, which is insane

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d

Right? It was fucking highway robbery.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 204d

Buy it, use it, break it, fix it

Trash it, change it, mail - upgrade it

Charge it, point it, zoom it, press it

Snap it, work it, quick - erase it

Write it, cut it, paste it, save it

Load it, check it, quick - rewrite it

Plug it, play it, burn it, rip it

Drag and drop it, zip - unzip it

Lock it, fill it, call it, find it

View it, code it, jam - unlock it

Surf it, scroll it, pause it, click it

Cross it, crack it, switch - update it

Name it, rate it, tune it, print it

Scan it, send it, fax - rename it

Touch it, bring it, pay it, watch it

Turn it, leave it, start - format it

Technologic.

RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 205d (1 reply)

I recently found perfectly working HP external disc burner while dumpster diving electronics bin at work and I have uncovered ancient ways of witchcraft again that I have once known but forgotten. This stuff costs like 50€ in stores now and I found it again for free. Nice. Burned the CDRW disc I still had in drawer for test if it works fine and the process hit me with so much nostalgia lol

BCsven@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 204d

I got one too. Its a combo of drive and rca inputs for burning camcorder or VCR to dvd

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 204d

Burned. Not with fire. With concentrated light. We had to focus on that shit.

Bahnd@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 204d (2 replies)

Disk rot is real, we must teach the young how to care for the relics.

SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 204d

I hate it.

I've always felt that, as children start to come of age, they should be given their own lifelong raid nas to store things efficiently. Like as an 18th birthday coming of age, "it is time you became an adult..." Then that kid won't have to rely on shitty cloud corpo dark pattern shenanigans.

coronach@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 204d

Indeed.... A recording of a performance I gave back in 2006 cannot be read by anything I've attempted 😔

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 204d (4 replies)

That's old magic, all but lost to the ages. It was practiced by ancient religions like Napster and LimeWire, but they are all gone now.

Best to let it rest. There is no advantage to dredging up all those old superstitions now.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 204d (3 replies)

Lost my ass. I still have external burners. DVD-Rs are cheap. Makes for a decent way to play my old Xbox and PS-PS2 games.

Also, yarr.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 204d

Me matey!

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d

Yarr!

Ashiette@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d

Some of us never forgot the old ways, just like there are still practitioner of the hellenic religions. You are but a few left and your religion is dead. We embraced the new religion, we stream and we do not possess, we talk to the clouds and let the data flow, where you used to burn and rip. We are pacifists, you were barbarians. You will not be missed and your religion is doomed to die with the lot of you.

snoons@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 186d

It's the reason why They banned fireplaces in most cities.

Zephorah@discuss.online · 3 pts · 205d (2 replies)

They mean GenX? Probably both. Maybe a Xennial thing if I have my terminology right.

Throw the phrase “making coasters” at this guy and see what happens.

I am sad he doesn’t know what an optical disc burner is, since they’re being sold and used through to this year.

RejZoR@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 204d (1 reply)

They are sold, but no one is using it. Like, my PC hasn't had optical drive for like a decade now if not more, my oldest laptop still has one, 2 newer ones didn't come with one at all. My car has CD player still, but I 3D printed a phone holder and jammed it in there and my phone is playing music via BT adapter and into AUX. And even before this, I bought the car specifically with USB port that plays MP3's and I've not listened to it that way for years now. But it's there. Can't imagine listening to CD's in a car these days...

Zephorah@discuss.online · 2 pts · 204d

Non smart tv alternatives.

badbytes@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d (2 replies)

Imagine asking social media for an answer, and not just searching. Use your brain youngooos.

bilb@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 203d (1 reply)

That is probably the best way to get the right answer, but getting the right answer might not be the poster's primary goal.

Obi@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 202d

When you have to post a minimum of 5x per day to fit in/keep engagement numbers up/boost your ego, any little thing happening (or not) in your life becomes a potential post.