A Life-Saving Vitamin for Babies Is Getting Swept Up in Vaccine Backlash | There’s a growing resistance to anything that’s injected into babies, vaccine or not.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-02-17/vitamin-k-shot-safety-more-parents-skip-injection-that-s-not-vaccine?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc3MTMzNDU5NiwiZXhwIjoxNzcxOTM5Mzk2LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUQUxRTzdLR0lGVjQwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiI4NzU5NDI1Q0VFODg0NjVCOUVDOUY4Nzg4MkRCMDlFNSJ9.DxW9S9kdpc_vG_UBts2BKw87LSZ3bzKHH9WCUcAamBs
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frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 67 pts · 212d
Why do these people even use the hospital for birth if thry are going to fight their standard care? Stay home and no one will bug you about any shots, dumbasses.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 212d
Oh don't worry they do that too.
https://youtu.be/Vemiqyyk-RA
Triumph@fedia.io · 13 pts · 212d
They just want someone else to clean up the mess.
Jessvj93@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
They do stay home, rather than a doctor or nurses being seconds away, they'd rather have birth in their living rooms in a fucking blow up pool with a midwife. Who they trust more than literal doctors and nurses.
FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 210d
Aren't midwives, like, experts in childbirth tho?
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 210d
There is no mandatory certification system for midwives. So you might get lucky and get a former emergency room nurse, or you might get unlucky and get someone who believes crystals will stop the bleeding or turn the baby around.
FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 210d
Wow that must be a US thing then, NHS in the UK definitely doesn't send unqualified midwives into the field!
teslekova@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 210d
Yep, it's kind of the wild west out there eh.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 210d
Yeah same in Aus, must be something we're to civilised to understand
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 210d
To a point, but if there is a major complication like hemorrhage they call an ambulance and have thoughts and prayers no one dies on the way to hospital.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 36 pts · 212d
Vitamin k
themaninblack@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 210d
My ex-MIL denied her kids this. It’s child abuse, pure and simple. Nice lady, but it’s child abuse. She should be overruled by the doctors. Insane we allow this to happen
blazeknave@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 211d
Did the most progressive (science) birth ever. Always vaccinate all the vaccines.
But iirc vitamin k was the one thing they really encouraged the parents to decide for themselves
ReiRose@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 211d
I was initially against vitK with my newborn, simply because I didn't want her to be messed with a bunch in her first 48hrs of life. The Dr explained I was going to drive home in Miami traffic, and it was safest to get the vitamin K to prevent excessive bleeding if we crashed,so I consented and she got the shot with me feeding her. Im very pro vaccine, and she has all her shots. The best solution is to find a dr you trust and trust their advice. As informed as I felt i was im neither a scientist nor a doctor. My feelings of not wanting her to be messed with are valid, but science > feelings.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 211d
Your feelings aren't valid, because modern diets don't necessarily have the complete array of components that we know we need, and the standard of care fills common gaps that we've found.
So unless you were getting your breast milk tested in advance to identify if your diet has filled these common gaps, no your daughter absolutely needed to be messed with to give her the strongest baseline for her development that we can give her.
Really, you know this, which is why you are enthusiastic about vaccines. You know that the negative side effects of vaccines are much more palatable than the negative effects of diseases.
"Messed with" is vague, emotionally charged, and doesn't describe the actual thing.
If you had feelings about the ethics of artificially filling a nutrient gap, those would actually be more valid even though when you put it in those terms it seems completely stupid.
end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
Now imagine refusing perinatal antiretrovirals
lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 211d
These morons have been brainwashed to visualize life-saving immunizations as "scary unfeeling doctor man forced poison into my sweet innocent baby".
And they just eat it the fuck up.
essell@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
The two major narratives I see on Lemmy about healthcare in the US.
The medical companies are profit driven and untrustworthy
People who don't trust the medical companies are frustratingly ignorant.
Of course the issues are complicated and woven with details and nuance, though I have to wonder if there isn't a reason why this happening beyond "They're brainwashed"
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 211d
You don't trust the companies. We're supposed to be able to trust the FDA and CDC
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 210d
The FDA admin has had a revolving door with pharma for decades.
The #2 person at FDA was fired recently for soliciting bribes for approval. He approved many drugs. This has been a problem under Biden as well.
https://www.bmj.com/content/391/bmj.r2350
essell@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
I know I'm the outsider here, but isn't there a long history of abuse even in the government health organisations?
Like full on medical experiments on US citizens without their knowledge?
nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 211d
On some level, yes. Most of the experiments were performed on socially vulnerable populations (racial minorities, the mentally ill, prisoners, etc). But for the average (white) citizen, this is a history lesson, not something that informs current behaviors. Additionally, much of that is tied to organizations like the military, which is usually seen as a different part of the government.
The FDA actually had a very good run of being relatively citizen-focused and making things safer. It's only somewhat recently they've fully pivoted to the "businesses are clients" model, so a lot of people haven't adapted.
Also, to your original point, my perception is that the lack of trust in the profit driven medical world is not that they can't help, but that they'll deny help if it costs too much. A common sentiment I hear is that the US has "the best healthcare in the world," and then complaints about how the insurance process bars access to it because of money.
Yes, there are people who believe things like "they've cured cancer but keep the cure hidden to make money off the treatments," but that's not the norm.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 210d
Someone with a Master's degree told me just the other day, "I feel like GP1s were just made to fix an illness they gave us" without acknowledging that the private processed food industry gave us that illness, not the medical community, which is who she was referencing. This belief is more and more common, that it's all a grand conspiracy to keep us sick so they can sell us more treatments, even folks in healthcare say that shit. It's depressing as hell.
nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 210d
The idea that goal was to get us sick is a canard. The likely reality is that its just that politically motivated subsidies and cultural shifts, with a healthy dose of capitalism, is what's the culprit.
Saying it's like a grand conspiracy would be kinda like saying early Americans' obsession with drinking whiskey was some sort of diabolical machination. Nah: people like getting fucked up. People like doritos. It's just dialing in what makes money on the short term.
But 10,000x yes: people can't discern who the "them" really is. They're not working together as much as you'd think. We're just all living under every evil motherfucker pulling in a similar direction.
lka1988@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 210d
The hilarious part is that alcoholic beverages and other mind-altering substances can be traced back to the dawn of humanity.
Like you said: Humans just really enjoy getting fucked up. On that line - I'm convinced "God" was a mushroom trip.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 210d
Of course, the next show to drop is health insurance refusing to pay out for costs that could have been prevented with vaccines.
Etterra@discuss.online · 13 pts · 211d
Why trust experts when you can just let Facebook tell you what to believe?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 210d
Just a little oregano oil and apple cider vinegar.
Etterra@discuss.online · 1 pts · 210d
You forgot the essential oils.
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 211d
So many children have been abused by conspiracy theory parents denying them life saving medical care. We need to push back against these anti-vaccine lunatics and educate the public.
DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d
As long as its Americans falling for this shit I think the rest of the world can live with some Darwin awards. All of this science and research and you kill yourself by refusing is allowed in my books. Remember were animals and we shouldn’t be saving people who don’t want to be saved.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 210d
Fuck you Bobby.
mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 211d
Maybe they were all looking for the most evil and disgusting way to win a (late) darwin award.
In the end there are fewer of their genes in the big pool. If that what they want.. tragic, but can't force them.
Greddan@feddit.org · 4 pts · 212d
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 212d
It's not religion that makes people stupid. Plenty of religious people aren't anti-vax.
Plenty of atheists are also stupid. Stupid people are everywhere, don't limit them to one group.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 212d
Actually, I think anti-vaxxers are one group we could blame for all this.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 210d
There are many, many, antivax doctors, even pediatricians. No one touches their licences and one in Canada is getting her legal bills covered by Musk.
DougHolland@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
Both sides do it, both sides do it.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 212d
Well.... They do.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 4 pts · 211d
oh my satan what a trump title. Seriously this is an old news item so I know what it is about but man it could not be more obfuscated. Its about vitamin k shots.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -13 pts · 212d
IamSparticles@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 212d
Social conservatives have shown, time and again, that they won't stop at simply refusing treatment for themselves. They want to make sure that everyone lives according to their beliefs. They will, of course, claim they are protecting children.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -6 pts · 212d
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 212d
It’s easy:
Concur6053@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 212d
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 211d
That used to be a thing in a lot of states - admittedly, there were some more exceptions, but generally school districts were reasonably strict about it, as a matter of public and community health. But the antivax movement took a lot of the teeth out of those mandates - so much so that many places in the US have lost their herd immunity as a result of so many idiot parents “doing their own research”.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 211d
becausechemistry@piefed.social · 11 pts · 212d
Being raised by conservative assholes shouldn’t be a death sentence.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 212d
becausechemistry@piefed.social · 8 pts · 211d
I was raised by said conservatives and if I was born thirty years later I’d have been unvaccinated. I don’t have a good answer for you. But you’re condemning a lot of people (that may eventually disagree with their parents!) to a pretty unhealthy existence.
Maybe consider being a little less gleeful when thinking about dead kids, even if their parents are assholes.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 211d
becausechemistry@piefed.social · 7 pts · 211d
I can’t conceive of any context in which this doesn’t mean “the suffering of children is a good outcome.” Like, the suffering of children will convince their parents that they were wrong?
There is a simple solution:
That won’t get everyone. But it’ll get enough to ensure broad community immunity. The people writing and implementing the laws just have to be willing to grow a spine and say “your opinion as a parent does not overrule medical science.”
Concur6053@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 211d
becausechemistry@piefed.social · 3 pts · 211d
I don’t need them to understand. I’m okay if they’re angry. They can throw a fit on Facebook and get a million likes. But if their kid doesn’t get the measles, it’s worth it.
You’re saying you want to be proven right. I’m saying I don’t care what they think as long as their kids are okay.
And yeah, I’m from the US. A rural town from a flyover state. My parents vaccinated me during the Clinton administration because the whole right wing coalition was there to disagree with him, not convince their rank and file that he was the antichrist.
They can’t make their constituents hate “the left” (for whatever that’s worth in the US) any more than they already do. So why not just do the right thing? You’re correct in that center-left people will never enact what I’m suggesting. I’m going to stick around and make sure better people replace them.
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 212d
But they are stopping others from getting what’s needed, their own child. Without said child’s consent.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -4 pts · 212d
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 211d
That’s a job for a doctor, which I am not.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 211d
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 211d
The alternative is: not let them opt out for bullshit reasons. Like every other developed country out there
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 210d
Other developed countries separate church and state, not the US.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 211d
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 210d
You're not very smart.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 210d
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 212d
A final one?
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 212d
village604@adultswim.fan · 6 pts · 212d
What you proposed is straight up eugenics. To you, letting babies die preventable deaths because their parents are idiots isn't a problem, it's a solution to idiots.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 212d
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 211d
Simple, you don't convince them. You give them no choice and impose penalties for not doing it.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 211d
village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 211d
No, I'm American. I didn't say it was a likely thing to happen, just that it's a simple fix.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
Good thing they aren't the final arbiter of truth, the all knowing, omniscient, all powerful enforcer of that which is true and just. But you aren't either, so its good that you also don't have that power.
Concur6053@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 211d