The relationship isn’t dead, it’s just going through a tough time right now. Half of Americans never voted for Trump and are appalled by all that’s happened. They’re poised to take their country back from all the MAGA insanity, starting with the midterms and over the next few years to follow.
I hope they can take their country back but the way I see it it's going to be long and bloody before they do. What has begun now cannot be fixed with elections (especially when they can be rigged).
Those "cartels" are Canadian dairy farmers. If you want in on the action, you just need to own a dairy farm.
But, I guess you'd rather they all go bankrupt trying to compete with US factory mega-farms? Wouldn't it be great if Canadian markets got flooded with US grade-b eggs and raw milk? smh.
So were gonna do the opposite and let all our other industries get tariffed, because we want to protect a special group and prevent people from choosing with their wallet. Canada loves cartels and we love price fixing, we love paying high prices.
Here’s a clue: an unregulated market will undermine your food security and sovereignty, and prices are cheap until the market consolidates around the winners.
I'm going to assume you aren't Canadian, with this shit? Because it's pretty bizarre that a Canadian would be advocating for Canadian farmers to be put out of business by US corporations.
Especially given the fact that our system not only protects those farmers, it keeps prices under control and guarantees a reliable supply of products for Canadian consumers.
Meanwhile, the US can't even manage their own supply chains well enough to keep the price of eggs from skyrocketing. But sure, "Let's hand the whole thing over to the Americans, because well-managed supply chains = cartels!! Hurr-durr!!"
Its not just our inflated dairy costs, it's telecoms, grocery store's, banks; now they're even buying up residential real estate. Everything in Canada is an oligopoly. Canadians seemingly love it as well, as long as they can say its a Canadian oligopoly.
First off, do you have evidence that negotiating with terrorists is a historically successful strategy? Because otherwise, I am not sure why you are suggesting that Canadian capitulation has any influence over US tariff policy.
Second, who has had famously higher egg and dairy prices over the past year? The US or Canada? If the goal is lower prices, which administration should we be cheerleading?
I will am pretty free enterprise but I will take “price fixing” over submission to an abusive and unreliable narcissist every day of the week.
The idea that the biggest threat to Canada right now is internal economic policy is laughably disconnected from reality.
How about some of us choose with our heads. That sounds like an idea.
The country that says they want to annex us, declared economic warfare, is trying to force shared industries to leave, and have thrown unlawful tariffs at us over fake emergencies is perfectly fine.
We're all just over-reacting! Maybe if we all just get on our knees and they'll be nice to us again!
That's not conservatism anymore. What would you name a political party that's entirely centered on inviting a foreign, even adversarial neighbour to seize control of the country, either economically or in its entirety? Genuinely asking.
I was just thinking the same thing. Maybe PP can chase enough of his members away that we won't have to have an election in the spring. Not a big fan of floor crossings either way, without a mandate from their constituents.
Well maybe Canadians shouldn't be so stupid about politics. We vote for the person not the party but no. Everyone votes party or more specifically for the party leader. Its why proportional representation makes sense now. Everyone is voting for the party anyway and doesn't care about who the MP is.
Are we talking about the Americans electing a criminal felon as President, who appears to be facing allegations of decades long pedophilia, and seems to be part of a global scale honey pot and blackmail operation that targeted people around the world? Did that damage trust and credibility? And did we mention the Americans who seem involved in the debauchery, death, trauma, and abuse from trafficking vulnerable underaged girls around the world for this operation for decades are also not facing any justice? Instead, they all appear to be closing ranks and maintaining an iron curtain of silence?
Oh, and world leaders and dignitaries have to grapple with the knowledge that these same Americans remain in positions of power and gatekeeping positions throughout the US government system?
Plus this same US President is extracting wealth for his billionaire friends? Wealth that the Western powers created a rules based order together to generate?
By the time the Americans manage to uncollapse their justice system, and maybe codify some laws to avoid the total collapse of their society in their legislative branch, it will be decades.
Canada is not throwing a hissy fit, we're literally working around a gasping goon where an ally should be, and we're trying to keep the lights and the heat on for the rest of us until this blows over.
He only got a Yale degree because of EDI, and he supports a government that would deport his whole family.
He interned with Cory Booker, Democrat, and was a Liberal party member until 2020. That got him what he needed, then....
Uncle Thomas here moved into the big house with his buddy JD Vance and suddenly got bleached. He was funded via the US Atlas Foundation as one of the right-wing "think tanks" employed him in Canada.
He thinks Jordan Peterson is a positive inspiration for young males to counter extremism. He has praised Kanye West and Danielle Smith. He believes in critical race theory. On October 3, 2025, Jivani announced the launch of a Restore the North Campus Tour which are modelled after the Turning Point USA campus tours .
With Trump no matter how much you give him he’ll ask for more, so no, there’s no reasonable bargaining position. As soon as you capitulate or give they’ll demand more and call you weak.
I can't wait to see if Poilievre goes after him for breaking ranks. The pro US wing of the party isn't huge, but it isn't small enough that they can alienate them completely.
74 Comments
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 111 pts · 197d
Shut up you fascist boot licker.
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca · 93 pts · 197d
Hissy fit? Really? The orange pedophile of hissy fits is the reason the relationship is dead.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 197d
The relationship isn’t dead, it’s just going through a tough time right now. Half of Americans never voted for Trump and are appalled by all that’s happened. They’re poised to take their country back from all the MAGA insanity, starting with the midterms and over the next few years to follow.
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 197d
The relationship may not be dead, but it is never going to be as strong as it once was.
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 197d
I hope they can take their country back but the way I see it it's going to be long and bloody before they do. What has begun now cannot be fixed with elections (especially when they can be rigged).
Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 197d
The system is rotten to the core. An election can't fix it.
LeFantome@programming.dev · 6 pts · 197d
Maybe not “dead” but it is permanently broken.
Also, get the numbers right. Two thirds of Americans did nothing to keep Trump out of office.
The midterms have not happened yet. We will see.
lemonySplit@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 197d
Ah the ol' domestic abuser mindset.
We've changed! plzzzz come back and consoooom! we looooove you guys.
Nah we're good up here without you all.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 196d
Except the US is not one person. It’s a bunch of people, some of whom you can call abusers, others would better be called friends and family.
If someone in your family is in a relationship with an abuser do you abandon your family member to their fate with the abuser?
FooBarrington@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 197d
What does it matter? Four years later they'll swing back to someone even worse than Trump.
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 197d
I bet there wont be midterms or any other elections anytime soon.
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 197d
I suppose that’s one way to never be disappointed!
maplesaga@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 197d
What were the orange baboons demands, wasnt it simply that we end supply side management, and food inflation stops being the fastest in the G7?
Who are these cartel benefiting, and how do I carve out my own government granted monopoly?
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 197d
The idea that Trump would stop at what he "simply demands" today once he gets satisfaction is so naive that it's almost cute.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 197d
Those "cartels" are Canadian dairy farmers. If you want in on the action, you just need to own a dairy farm.
But, I guess you'd rather they all go bankrupt trying to compete with US factory mega-farms? Wouldn't it be great if Canadian markets got flooded with US grade-b eggs and raw milk? smh.
maplesaga@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 197d
So were gonna do the opposite and let all our other industries get tariffed, because we want to protect a special group and prevent people from choosing with their wallet. Canada loves cartels and we love price fixing, we love paying high prices.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 197d
Food sovereignty isn’t that complicated.
Here’s a clue: an unregulated market will undermine your food security and sovereignty, and prices are cheap until the market consolidates around the winners.
maplesaga@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 197d
We need no competition otherwise there will be no competition. But this only applies to dairy for some reason?
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 197d
Wot
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 197d
I'm going to assume you aren't Canadian, with this shit? Because it's pretty bizarre that a Canadian would be advocating for Canadian farmers to be put out of business by US corporations.
Especially given the fact that our system not only protects those farmers, it keeps prices under control and guarantees a reliable supply of products for Canadian consumers.
Meanwhile, the US can't even manage their own supply chains well enough to keep the price of eggs from skyrocketing. But sure, "Let's hand the whole thing over to the Americans, because well-managed supply chains = cartels!! Hurr-durr!!"
maplesaga@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 197d
Its not just our inflated dairy costs, it's telecoms, grocery store's, banks; now they're even buying up residential real estate. Everything in Canada is an oligopoly. Canadians seemingly love it as well, as long as they can say its a Canadian oligopoly.
LeFantome@programming.dev · 3 pts · 197d
First off, do you have evidence that negotiating with terrorists is a historically successful strategy? Because otherwise, I am not sure why you are suggesting that Canadian capitulation has any influence over US tariff policy.
Second, who has had famously higher egg and dairy prices over the past year? The US or Canada? If the goal is lower prices, which administration should we be cheerleading?
I will am pretty free enterprise but I will take “price fixing” over submission to an abusive and unreliable narcissist every day of the week.
The idea that the biggest threat to Canada right now is internal economic policy is laughably disconnected from reality.
How about some of us choose with our heads. That sounds like an idea.
kbal@fedia.io · 51 pts · 197d
That remark was so outrageous that it only took two days of polling data for Poilievre to find out that he disagrees with it.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 197d
Noice.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 46 pts · 197d
Oh, I'm sorry.
The country that says they want to annex us, declared economic warfare, is trying to force shared industries to leave, and have thrown unlawful tariffs at us over fake emergencies is perfectly fine.
We're all just over-reacting! Maybe if we all just get on our knees and they'll be nice to us again!
cheat700000007@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 197d
Don't forget trying to steal half a bridge
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al · 8 pts · 197d
The bridge was already half owned. Built by Canada and offered with 50/50 shared ownership. Trumps tantrum was smoke and mirrors.
lost_faith@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 197d
But, not shared with donald, nor are the profits after we recoup the cost to build
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 197d
We already gave them half the bridge so it would get built.
Their corrupt billionaire class is blocking it because they won’t get the tolls from this one.
The US is blatantly corrupt and they’re losing out on economic value of it doesn’t line the right pockets. That’s how empires die.
tangeli@piefed.social · 35 pts · 197d
The article says nothing about where he gets his money.
tiredofsametab@fedia.io · 29 pts · 197d
Move there where you belong, then.
Binturong@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 197d
Just move there, traitor.
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 197d
He is a back bencher who wants to be the conservative leader.
FireRetardant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 197d
He is a back bencher who wants to be the
conservative leader51st state governor.Binturong@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 197d
That's not conservatism anymore. What would you name a political party that's entirely centered on inviting a foreign, even adversarial neighbour to seize control of the country, either economically or in its entirety? Genuinely asking.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 197d
Which is hilarious because no PC voter would elect a brown guy PM. Pale and Male.
HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth · 25 pts · 197d
He is J.D Vance school buddy so no surprise there
Reannlegge@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 197d
They dated the same couch at most I bet you.
Aknifeguy@piefed.ca · 24 pts · 197d
Vote him out next election. Canada doesn't need fascist boot lickers.
Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net · 21 pts · 197d
MCGiorgi@piefed.ca · 20 pts · 197d
Why he hasn't been turfed out of the Conservative party is beyond me. Wait ... no it isn't.
DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 197d
lost_faith@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 197d
I was just thinking the same thing. Maybe PP can chase enough of his members away that we won't have to have an election in the spring. Not a big fan of floor crossings either way, without a mandate from their constituents.
DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 196d
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 197d
Well maybe Canadians shouldn't be so stupid about politics. We vote for the person not the party but no. Everyone votes party or more specifically for the party leader. Its why proportional representation makes sense now. Everyone is voting for the party anyway and doesn't care about who the MP is.
Trex202@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
Mandate it!
FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 197d
The cult lives obliviously in it's bubble totally unaware that everyone thinks they are Gong show crazy.
dhtseany@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 197d
No they're not, our leadership sucks right now. Keep it up, we'll see you guys soon.
runsmooth@kopitalk.net · 15 pts · 197d
Canada is harming its relationship with the US?
Are we talking about the Americans electing a criminal felon as President, who appears to be facing allegations of decades long pedophilia, and seems to be part of a global scale honey pot and blackmail operation that targeted people around the world? Did that damage trust and credibility? And did we mention the Americans who seem involved in the debauchery, death, trauma, and abuse from trafficking vulnerable underaged girls around the world for this operation for decades are also not facing any justice? Instead, they all appear to be closing ranks and maintaining an iron curtain of silence?
Oh, and world leaders and dignitaries have to grapple with the knowledge that these same Americans remain in positions of power and gatekeeping positions throughout the US government system?
Plus this same US President is extracting wealth for his billionaire friends? Wealth that the Western powers created a rules based order together to generate?
By the time the Americans manage to uncollapse their justice system, and maybe codify some laws to avoid the total collapse of their society in their legislative branch, it will be decades.
Canada is not throwing a hissy fit, we're literally working around a gasping goon where an ally should be, and we're trying to keep the lights and the heat on for the rest of us until this blows over.
Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 197d
Awwww. Pack your bags then you little bitch. Off to fascism with you.
glibg@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 196d
Conservatives are a joke. Show us some policy ideas for once.
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 196d
How about warrior culture and fighting wokeness? Is that a policy?
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 197d
His constituents need to have this blasted 24/7 at the next election.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 197d
He won by 4.3% in the last election. His riding is now a tossup.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 197d
Bought and paid for traitor says what?
Aralakh@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 197d
When PP sounds reasonable and level-headed is how you know shit is all kinds of fucked up.
osanna@thebrainbin.org · 11 pts · 197d
pretty sure dumpy harmed the relationship by repeatedly saying that canada will be the 51st state. Yeah?
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 197d
If the world hadn't thrown a big hissy fit about the Nazis I'm sure they could have been talked down. After all, they just had different opinions.
Kichae@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 196d
Probably not so different from some of these CPC MPs.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 197d
Jivani is a US conspirator and traitor.
He only got a Yale degree because of EDI, and he supports a government that would deport his whole family.
He interned with Cory Booker, Democrat, and was a Liberal party member until 2020. That got him what he needed, then....
Uncle Thomas here moved into the big house with his buddy JD Vance and suddenly got bleached. He was funded via the US Atlas Foundation as one of the right-wing "think tanks" employed him in Canada.
He thinks Jordan Peterson is a positive inspiration for young males to counter extremism. He has praised Kanye West and Danielle Smith. He believes in critical race theory. On October 3, 2025, Jivani announced the launch of a Restore the North Campus Tour which are modelled after the Turning Point USA campus tours .
He ran a charity with Vance in Ohio. Our Ohio Renewal, which turned out to be a complete scam with the opiod industry.
He should be in jail for Our Ohio Renewal, but idiot Oshawa voted for him because he had a blue lawn sign.
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 197d
Jamil Jivani is the MP's name.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 197d
USA only gonna beat you up harder if you go back to him. Eventually he'll kill you. Lots of abused spouses see this.
megopie@beehaw.org · 9 pts · 197d
As an American, no it fucking ain’t. Keep boycotting American shit please. Keep being a problem. I beg you.
This situation is dumb, and the only way certain compatriots will get that through their inch thick steel skulls is pressure from all sides.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 197d
With Trump no matter how much you give him he’ll ask for more, so no, there’s no reasonable bargaining position. As soon as you capitulate or give they’ll demand more and call you weak.
L_N@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 197d
Everybody knows Jivani is a traitor; he should be kicked out.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 197d
Just lie down and take it, ssh, sssssshhhh. It'll all be over quick if you don't fight it.
dermanus@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 197d
I can't wait to see if Poilievre goes after him for breaking ranks. The pro US wing of the party isn't huge, but it isn't small enough that they can alienate them completely.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 197d
Poilievre is spineless. If anything, Jivani will get his job.
DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 197d
Yezzey@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 197d
Why are some Conservatives obtuse
Tiger666@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 197d
Because those conservatives are fascists.
fourish@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 197d
Are these the Alberta traitorous form of conservative or is there another type?
LeFantome@programming.dev · 6 pts · 197d
What riding is this guy in? I think we should show him what a real hissy-fit looks like.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 197d
He's riding a tiny orange shroom
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 197d
Oshawa, the white trash trailer park of the GTA.
Routhinator@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 197d
Good. Keep it up fellow Canucks
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 197d
So?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 196d
Have to say, you lot are really killing it the last few days!