Now that it's been all but confirmed that they allowed Hamas past defences on 10/07 to justify a massive retaliation campaign, this is almost certainly the case
As an unrelated note, they are firing Patriots (the ones which can't be supplied to Ukraine, because "there are too few") by the dozen. I watched a video from Qatar and likely saw a billion's worth of fireworks in 60 seconds.
Under Biden, we were worried about actually going to war with russia and needing them ourselves. Under fuckface, we are worried about them being used against russia.
But a big part of it is that... patriot missiles fucking suck. So does the Iron Dome. Intercepting even "normal" velocity missiles is really hard. Let alone high velocity ones. It is just that israel has a lot of reason to shape propaganda to pretend they are insanely effective (for their own military industrial complex needs) when it is mostly about getting people into bunkers the second you think there is incoming fire. And then you just don't really report on why so many construction contracts just hit the market.
And you see this when we deploy patriot missiles elsewhere. Off the top of my head, I want to say the official numbers put the Iron Dome at closer to 80% effectiveness. And patriot missiles... there have been engagements where that number might be closer to 0% than not. With recent use mostly juicing things up with aircraft and drones (MUCH easier targets).
And considering that Ukraine's government benefits from reminding people how evil russia is? They aren't going to be pretending the anti-missile tech is better than it is.
Under fuckface, we are worried about them being used against russia.
Trump is consistently attacking all of Russia's allies: Assad is gone, Maduro is gone, now Khameni is gone. He's also forced the rest of NATO to increase their contributions while doing nothing to reduce US funding, making it stronger than ever.
And I'm supposed to believe this is part of Russia's master plan? It beggars belief.
What it actually looks like is Trump is preparing for a more direct confrontation with Russia, as the feather in his cap for his legacy. He wants to be remembered as the "greatest president ever" and secure himself alongside other American empire builders, and in his mind that means crushing all of the US's enemies and finally wiping Russia off the map.
Awww. Don't worry. Nobody is saying putin could ever be bad. He is everyone's friend and the most heroic and ethical person in any possible conversation.
Meanwhile, the most recent defense authorization act just earmarked another $800 billion for Ukraine, guarantees a minimum of 76,000 US forces for NATO, and secured the U.S. European Commander as the continued NATO Supreme Commander.
Trump is fooling people into thinking he's some kind of dove on Russia, but the actual legislation that he signs into law and the actual war footing that's being implemented are clearly aligned against Russia. You're sleepwalking right into his trap, he's tricked people into thinking he wants to make peace with Russia when the reality is that he's preparing for even more war.
Stop listening to Trump's words and start paying attention to what he actually does.
The Israeli air defense system is far from impenetrable as we saw from the last Israeli Iranian war when Israel was repeatedly rocked by Iranian missiles. The air defense can be overloaded by saturation attacks and are unreliable/unable to stop hypersonic missiles which Iran does possess.
When Israel attacked Iran last year they did not expect Iran's response to be as effective as it turned out to be and needed to ask the Americans for help. This time the Israelis made sure to have US back up from the beginning.
Trump freed an entire girl's school from the grip of Tehran. These girls will never have to face the injustice of their society. They get to taste the pure bliss of explosive freedom!
Saw a post on Reddit that the us fired 3 patriot missiles at an Iran missile and it got by all 3 patriots.
It’s like monkeys being handed machine guns. The brain dead useless us grubbermint Couldn’t hit the back side of a barn door if it tried. Going to be a weird war with orange pedofile numpty at the helm.
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nulluser@lemmy.world · 130 pts · 188d
I assume Bibi ordered them to intentionally let that one through to drum up support for continued strikes against Iran.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 101 pts · 188d
Now that it's been all but confirmed that they allowed Hamas past defences on 10/07 to justify a massive retaliation campaign, this is almost certainly the case
Serinus@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 187d
But why when they're clearly doing what they want anyway.
More likely they just got hit.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 44 pts · 188d
You have WAY too much faith in anti-missile defense systems.
perestroika@slrpnk.net · 63 pts · 188d
As an unrelated note, they are firing Patriots (the ones which can't be supplied to Ukraine, because "there are too few") by the dozen. I watched a video from Qatar and likely saw a billion's worth of fireworks in 60 seconds.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 188d
Part of that has been that:
Under Biden, we were worried about actually going to war with russia and needing them ourselves. Under fuckface, we are worried about them being used against russia.
But a big part of it is that... patriot missiles fucking suck. So does the Iron Dome. Intercepting even "normal" velocity missiles is really hard. Let alone high velocity ones. It is just that israel has a lot of reason to shape propaganda to pretend they are insanely effective (for their own military industrial complex needs) when it is mostly about getting people into bunkers the second you think there is incoming fire. And then you just don't really report on why so many construction contracts just hit the market.
And you see this when we deploy patriot missiles elsewhere. Off the top of my head, I want to say the official numbers put the Iron Dome at closer to 80% effectiveness. And patriot missiles... there have been engagements where that number might be closer to 0% than not. With recent use mostly juicing things up with aircraft and drones (MUCH easier targets).
And considering that Ukraine's government benefits from reminding people how evil russia is? They aren't going to be pretending the anti-missile tech is better than it is.
queermunist@lemmy.ml · -4 pts · 187d
Trump is consistently attacking all of Russia's allies: Assad is gone, Maduro is gone, now Khameni is gone. He's also forced the rest of NATO to increase their contributions while doing nothing to reduce US funding, making it stronger than ever.
And I'm supposed to believe this is part of Russia's master plan? It beggars belief.
What it actually looks like is Trump is preparing for a more direct confrontation with Russia, as the feather in his cap for his legacy. He wants to be remembered as the "greatest president ever" and secure himself alongside other American empire builders, and in his mind that means crushing all of the US's enemies and finally wiping Russia off the map.
BussyCat@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 187d
Forcing European countries to purchase expensive U.S. tech with kill switches in it that can be remotely disabled
Antagonizing nato countries with threats of violence so they can’t keep all their defenses facing Russia
Cutting off funding to Ukraine and leaking info to Russia
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · -8 pts · 187d
Awww. Don't worry. Nobody is saying putin could ever be bad. He is everyone's friend and the most heroic and ethical person in any possible conversation.
Now go back to sleep. The grown ups are talking
queermunist@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 187d
Meanwhile, the most recent defense authorization act just earmarked another $800 billion for Ukraine, guarantees a minimum of 76,000 US forces for NATO, and secured the U.S. European Commander as the continued NATO Supreme Commander.
Trump is fooling people into thinking he's some kind of dove on Russia, but the actual legislation that he signs into law and the actual war footing that's being implemented are clearly aligned against Russia. You're sleepwalking right into his trap, he's tricked people into thinking he wants to make peace with Russia when the reality is that he's preparing for even more war.
Stop listening to Trump's words and start paying attention to what he actually does.
Blade9732@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 188d
Well, Ukraine doesn't have any oil, so it makes sense.
cammoblammo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
Ukraine does have oil, although they’re largely in areas affected by the war.
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 187d
The Israeli air defense system is far from impenetrable as we saw from the last Israeli Iranian war when Israel was repeatedly rocked by Iranian missiles. The air defense can be overloaded by saturation attacks and are unreliable/unable to stop hypersonic missiles which Iran does possess.
When Israel attacked Iran last year they did not expect Iran's response to be as effective as it turned out to be and needed to ask the Americans for help. This time the Israelis made sure to have US back up from the beginning.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
Only if it was gonna result in dead kids. That fucker whacks off to dead kids.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 84 pts · 188d
Trump's bringing PEACE to the MIDDLE EAST!
-Fox News!
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 187d
Trump freed an entire girl's school from the grip of Tehran. These girls will never have to face the injustice of their society. They get to taste the pure bliss of explosive freedom!
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 186d
Ow I didn't notice I'm in the c/helldivers2.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 188d
So the missiles Bibi has been talking about for over a decade finally came?
Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 188d
There is a leaker in the WH.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 43 pts · 188d
It's OK, he's wearing a diaper.
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 188d
Seems like the interception missile hit the incoming missile but failed to destroy it in the air.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 187d
One of the problems when you blow stuff up in the air is that it doesn't stay up there.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 187d
I think intercepting missiles explode when they are as close as they will get, and probably just didn’t have the right trajectory.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 188d
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 186d
Nice shot.
beveradb@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 188d
Good
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 187d
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 0 pts · 188d
No doubt it was aimed at a military target. That's what I read that Iran does in many other threads here.
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 187d
Keep'em coming!
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 187d
Saw a post on Reddit that the us fired 3 patriot missiles at an Iran missile and it got by all 3 patriots.
It’s like monkeys being handed machine guns. The brain dead useless us grubbermint Couldn’t hit the back side of a barn door if it tried. Going to be a weird war with orange pedofile numpty at the helm.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 10 pts · 187d
They managed to kidnap one country leader and assassinate another one in the last months. It's actually scary how powerful they are.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 187d
It was Israeli defense. And they’ve actually been pretty good at countering Iranian attacks.
LoveTrumpsHate@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 187d
At least The Orange One has survived himself with super competent people like Secretary of War Pete Kegsbreath.