Transitional housing for abused women and children
i'd agree with you, but a very important feature of those is that we don't tell anyone but the people who need its services where it is. like, i was ran some homeless shelters. two of them were for abused women and children. I still haven't got a clue where they are. only people in the organization who knew were people who needed to know and i was not one of them.
I learned that the US has anti-drone lasers but instead of sending them where they're needed like Ukraine and Kuwait, they send them to... Arizona... to hunt birthday balloons...
The safety of civilians in the region. You don't have to pick a side. We can simultaneously acknowledge that the Iranian and the US regimes are fucked up.
why? all nations are evil. that’s a given. trump’s run to be another hitler has involved partnership with genocide and kidnapping and invasion of multiple nations.
he’s clearly the bigger evil here.
iran is a piece of shit but they’re not a worldwide imperialist terrorist organization actively invading other nations.
all nations are evil. but the one in which I am currently stuck I am allowed, at least currently, to recognize is doing harm to the world the likes of which has never before been seen.
Sure, but that doesn't mean we have to choose one to support. Saying the IRGC is evil doesn't imply support for the US invasion, and saying the US invasion is evil doesn't imply support for the IRGC.
It's like sanity has gone out there window. Let's not forget that not supporting either side is always an option.
I wasn't trying to say you in particular are choosing a side. Just venting about how on lemmy in general, a lot of people overreact if I say anything even slightly critical of the Iranian regime.
Even before this US/Israeli invasion, on a post about iranian student protesters, people were accusing me of being a zionist because it expressed support for the Iranian students who were protesting...
Yes, the current regime in the US is deplorable. The regime in the Knesset is also deplorable. But the Iranian regime is deplorable too. Like, it's entirely possible for all those things to be true, and they are...
This is just blame shifting, you could have voted for Kamala, you voted for Trump, this is not anyone elses fault, nor is it capitalisms which functions perfectly well in hundreds of countries
even if they voted for harris she still would have lost. she did a piss poor job at her campaign. if the primary actually picked her instead of joe dropping she’d likely have done much better.
I kind of doubt that will be true. Don't you think if our system actually worked trump would have been some how taken from presidency? Or at least something would be happening. Like anything real...
People to stand up and run as a politician against people like Trump and commit to putting him in jail
Have people vote for said person
As opposed to in Iran where you only have 1 option
Like it or die
There is nothing stopping America from being similar to NZ/Canada/France/Sweden or insert whatever idealist state you look up to with universal healthcare, gun control etc, you just need people to vote for it
Left Wing Americans are constantly saying that capitalism is the problem because they seem unable or unwilling to talk to their neighbours
The problem isn't the system. The system exists only to help the people maintain the upper hand. It's the people themselves. Trump is only a symptom of a problem with the people. In fact, even if he drops dead tomorrow, you'll find a queue of a couple of dozen even worse psychopaths waiting to take his place.
It's hard to see the problem when you're part of the US society. But it's evident from the outside. An average of more than one school shooting happens in the US per day. This isn't even a news these days. But it's unheard of and unbelievable in other nations. If anything similar happens, it would be news and discussion for a year. You don't go to churches or malls or railway stations (there is such a thing) worrying if you'll die of gunshots.
Political assassinations are a big deal elsewhere - even of a political opponent. You should have seen the US republicans celebrating the murder of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. So the left must be good, right? Of course, they were celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The sudden disappearance of a human life is something most people can't stomach. Yet, people were celebrating the gory videos!
Similar attitude with armies. There are no just wars. Wars always cause unjust and unimaginable suffering. Wars must be avoided. Of course that's not an option sometimes. Then your aim must be to attain the objective as fast as possible and restore peace. But all wars are holy wars for Americans. They don't even tolerate it when I suggest that even their military may be committing war crimes (that's charitable, considering what's reported). To them, their military is the righteous force that can do no evil!
This is part of a pattern of excess pride, often called the 'American exceptionalism'. Americans also give little value to perspectives of people in other countries. Many behave as if the US is the entire world! Problems like the Trump-Epstein regime will continue to repeat until Americans start to introspect and self-criticize. It will happen until a big section of Americans open up their mind to the perspectives of others.
They've been crippled. Their ability to project artillery outside their borders is receding with every passing day. As soon as the US/Israel offer them a seat at the bargaining table, they'll come rushing back just like they have every other time the US/Israel has pushed their shit in.
If you love getting rug-pulled, go ahead and root for Iran.
If you want to cheer for the team with the kind of blood-lust necessary to obliterate a civilization, you'd be better off cheering for the US and Israel.
The war just started. How do you even know what tricks they have up their sleeves? You think dropping big explosives from the air is the only form of warfare? How did that work out for you in Vietnam? This is the same hubris Putin demonstrated. Don't jump the gun.
the US has quadrupled military hardware production. That extra juice is for Russia, Putin will be out of the Kremlin in 2 to 3 years. He does not have to like it.
Yeah. Killing little school girls is all you can claim as an achievement! After all, little school girls are the field of expertise of your supreme commander, aren't they?
We killed a whole lot of school girls in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq as well. Didn't get the same kind of coverage, because the executive branch (and the public) were more disciplined in messaging.
But I think a lot of warfare is, at the end of the day, a libidinal need to "mow the grass" as the genocidal IDF leadership put it. Kill your enemies. Kill their families. Kill their kids. Depopulate territory of opposition.
Do I think dropping big explosives from the air works toward that end? Absolutely.
I never thought of the US as a benevolent invasion force. I knew they massacred ordinary people. And clearly, you're part of the problem here.
But I'm not talking about that. Despite all the bombs you drop, you fail to achieve anything in the end. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. Is there one invasion you can say you're proud of? Perhaps psychopaths like you can, based entirely on the blood shed. But for human beings, you just keep sacrificing soldiers till you withdraw with your tail tucked behind you. You create powerful enemies who go on to cause even more damage to you. It's your shortsightedness and simplistic thinking that defeats you in the end.
Meanwhile, your equating human lives to grass, is just lack of humanity. I just pity you. But don't believe for a second that you're immune to it. One day it will be someone else doing it to you.
Despite all the bombs you drop, you fail to achieve anything in the end.
Tell it to Raytheon stockholders. Hell, tell it to Facebook stockholders.
More importantly, tell it to every single Palestinian rendered homeless by the Nakba and the subsequent seventy years of genocidal policy. Israel exists in its current state because they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and took their homes, their farms, and cut off their access to Arab neighbors.
Meanwhile, your equating human lives to grass
Mowing the grass (Hebrew: כיסוח דשא) is a metaphor used to describe periodic Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip to manage the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The term was coined by Efraim Inbar and Eitan Shamir, two columnists for The Jerusalem Post and strategic studies researchers.
Naftali Bennett referred to the idea in a speech in 2018 when he said "מי שלא מכסח את הדשא, הדשא מכסח אותו" ('He who does not mow the grass, the grass mows him')
This sinking seems like a really big deal to me, but I don't feel like it's been treated that way. Everyone seems to react like it's just another example of Trump being shitty, and it is, but also, we sank another country's warship with a torpedo. That seems pretty momentous no matter what country it was.
This is only the second warship sunk by a nuke sub (HMS Conqueror) and the first warship the US has sunk with a sub since 1945. We won't talk about the Russian cargo ship that "exploded" in 2024.
In the frame of war, this is big. In the frame of history this is huge. The lack of coverage and the apathy to it is ridiculous. This has never happened in our lifetime, well unless you are 80, so we have that going for us...at least its new lol.
It's the first fully unarmed warship sunk though, so that makes it unique. Also extra unique is that the nation and crew were basically invited first to the parade in part by the USA. So basically it's one for the history books in that is a modern red wedding.
It feels different in a few ways to me. One, it feels much more personal and "fuck you in particular." It's one thing to lob missiles at a base and fuck whoever happens to be there, but you KNOW there's a real possibility that you kill every mother effer on that ship if you hit it with a torpedo.
I'm not articulating it very well, but it's just got a different sort of cruelty that something like shelling an airbase just lacks for me.
I guess I can sort-of see where you're coming from. Presumably when they're bombing an airbase they're trying to hit planes, destroy runways, etc. If you're in the break room at the time there's a decent chance you don't die. If you're working on a plane, you're probably dead. But, when you sink a ship, everyone goes into the water and there's a good chance they'll die.
To me, the fact that it happened nowhere near Iran is the bigger deal. It means that parts of the world that aren't aligned with either side in the war now have to wonder what might explode in their own territory.
OTOH, at least when you sink a military ship there won't be civilian casualties. If the US had actually declared war on Iran, which of course never happened, but if... then another warship is actually a valid target. This isn't like blowing up an apartment building because a guy on your kill list is in one of the apartments.
To me, the fact that it happened nowhere near Iran is the bigger deal. It means that parts of the world that aren’t aligned with either side in the war now have to wonder what might explode in their own territory.
I skipped right over that but it's part of it for sure.
It's an expansion of the theater of war. Virtually all of modern warfare has taken place on the land and in the air. There haven't been true naval battles in a long time.
There haven't been any naval battles, but there have been plenty of naval ships sunk.
It's an expansion of the theatre of war, because it happened outside Iran. The method doesn't really matter to the theatre of war. It is different that it was a naval vessel hitting another naval vessel. In the past there have been missiles launched from naval vessels that hit ground or air targets, and plenty of naval vessels sunk by missiles or drones. But, I'm not sure how relevant that is.
It would be nice to see, but I still wouldn't have paid 130 human beings just to get another nation do something that should be done by an American. We can't let these foreigners take our jobs or something.
Ironically, so does his medical team. Based on the bruising, wouldn't surprise me if they're having to draw blood constantly for all the testing required to keep his corpse functional.
I hope they take it on the republican government personally. No point in fighting with an over-funded military lead by a christo-fascist, when you can take it out on retirement age old white folk who had the power to stop the war and decided to lick a pedophiles boots instead.
If they restrict themselves to killing Dogey Americans, I would be alright with Iran infiltrating ICE and conducting operations against the Dogey. I don't consider any member of the Dogey to be of my people anymore.
They have "made good" on these threats several times. Biggest reason why you don't see them all the time is because the intelligence services of various countries are doing their job.
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capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 154 pts · 160d
You can fucking have him... If he's got any blood left in him and it's not all just McDonald's brand cholesterol™, you're welcome to it.
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 74 pts · 160d
Unfortunately, they will absolutely take the blood of kids from low income families who got duped by sociopathic high school recruiters in his stead.
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 160d
Sadly, I had quite a few friends fall for it when Dubya did this. Surely we'll take care of them when they come back this time...
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 160d
Narrator: We will not take care of them when they come back this time.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 159d
Oh no, trump will "take care" of them for sure.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 160d
Just sayin, were already gonna have to rebuild part of the White House...
I wouldn't see any need to rebuild mar lago tho
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 160d
what if we rebuilt maralago as a skate park and public restroom. so people could ollie and shit on his grave
capt_wolf@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 160d
Transitional housing for abused women and children would be the ultimate slap in the face.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 160d
i'd agree with you, but a very important feature of those is that we don't tell anyone but the people who need its services where it is. like, i was ran some homeless shelters. two of them were for abused women and children. I still haven't got a clue where they are. only people in the organization who knew were people who needed to know and i was not one of them.
toomanypancakes@piefed.world · 5 pts · 160d
That would be pretty sicknasty, I'd learn to skateboard so I could go there
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
skate parks are pretty welcoming. you could learn there!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 158d
Or a glass museum
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
what type of glass?
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 157d
Pyroclastic.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 158d
That depends on the molecular composition of the sand at Mar-a-lago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 158d
ahhh, now i understand.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 159d
They're going to have to put up fencing around his eventual grave to stop the long line of people who have been waiting to do exactly that.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 159d
If i have learned nothing else from the escapades at the southern border and I haven't it's that no fence is impregnable
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 158d
I learned that the US has anti-drone lasers but instead of sending them where they're needed like Ukraine and Kuwait, they send them to... Arizona... to hunt birthday balloons...
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
gotta protect that dipshit gozar from aliens and parties he wasnt invited to
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 160d
They can take the cholesterol too. And also the shitty orange dollar store packaging around it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 160d
no we want to keep the cholesterol. biodiesel is valuable.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 159d
How many Teslas can you power from the contents of one of trumps arteries ?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 159d
7
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 158d
Not 666 ?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
they're really bad cars
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 158d
But presumably they run best on evil thoughts ?
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 160d
At this point they can destroy all of western culture it's all the same evil bullshit owned by psychopaths.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 65 pts · 160d
Conflicted on who I’m supporting here.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 41 pts · 160d
You don't have to support anyone.
Steve@startrek.website · 13 pts · 160d
If you don't pick a team you're not in the game!
i078@europe.pub · 21 pts · 160d
The only winning move is not to play
blackn1ght@feddit.uk · 39 pts · 160d
The safety of civilians in the region. You don't have to pick a side. We can simultaneously acknowledge that the Iranian and the US regimes are fucked up.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 160d
Yeah I want both governments to fall and both countries' people to thrive and forge a better future
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 160d
Solid choice.
vga@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 160d
Then the sinking of a battleship seems like a pretty safe strike. Roughly zero chance of collateral damage.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 158d
But high chance of retaliation, which is why cowards target civilians...
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 158d
Wow, I didn't know sane takes were still allowed on the internet...
flandish@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 160d
why? all nations are evil. that’s a given. trump’s run to be another hitler has involved partnership with genocide and kidnapping and invasion of multiple nations.
he’s clearly the bigger evil here.
iran is a piece of shit but they’re not a worldwide imperialist terrorist organization actively invading other nations.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 158d
But they have been supplying drones to a worldwide imperialist terrorist organization actively invading other nations...
We can say both sides are evil, it's okay. Nuance is rare enough already as it is without needing to discourage it when we see it.
flandish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
all nations are evil. but the one in which I am currently stuck I am allowed, at least currently, to recognize is doing harm to the world the likes of which has never before been seen.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 158d
Sure, but that doesn't mean we have to choose one to support. Saying the IRGC is evil doesn't imply support for the US invasion, and saying the US invasion is evil doesn't imply support for the IRGC.
It's like sanity has gone out there window. Let's not forget that not supporting either side is always an option.
flandish@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 158d
i do not support any side. what gave that opinion? i am just currently reacting to how deplorable the side i am stuck under is behaving.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 158d
I wasn't trying to say you in particular are choosing a side. Just venting about how on lemmy in general, a lot of people overreact if I say anything even slightly critical of the Iranian regime.
Even before this US/Israeli invasion, on a post about iranian student protesters, people were accusing me of being a zionist because it expressed support for the Iranian students who were protesting...
Yes, the current regime in the US is deplorable. The regime in the Knesset is also deplorable. But the Iranian regime is deplorable too. Like, it's entirely possible for all those things to be true, and they are...
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -11 pts · 160d
well you can simply vote out trump at your next election if you wish
you can’t vote out a dictatorship
flandish@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 160d
the dictatorship is capitalism here in the US. it also can’t be voted out.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -1 pts · 160d
lol... all the best countries in the world have capitalism
daychilde@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
Not all countries have the power our oligarchs have. They're trying everywhere, but they have succeeded in the US.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · -2 pts · 160d
This is just blame shifting, you could have voted for Kamala, you voted for Trump, this is not anyone elses fault, nor is it capitalisms which functions perfectly well in hundreds of countries
daychilde@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 159d
And you could kick out Rupert Murdock, but you personally haven't, so I guess that's your fault.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 159d
sure, I guess I better start blaming capitalism for all my woes now
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 158d
...so do all the worst countries in the world. In fact, all the countries have it. That's the problem.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 158d
the worst country in the world is north korea and it's communist, so you could have it worse
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 158d
Communist in name only
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 158d
lol you wish
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 160d
It could've been. But dumbfucks threw a tantrum over Harris.
This is on their heads. Never let it be forgotten.
emmanuel_car@fedia.io · 9 pts · 160d
While Harris would have been an objectively better president than trump, I don’t think voting for her would have voted out capitalism…
flandish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 160d
don’t forget: the ppl who voted 3rd party.
even if they voted for harris she still would have lost. she did a piss poor job at her campaign. if the primary actually picked her instead of joe dropping she’d likely have done much better.
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 160d
I kind of doubt that will be true. Don't you think if our system actually worked trump would have been some how taken from presidency? Or at least something would be happening. Like anything real...
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 160d
Then you need 2 things:
People to stand up and run as a politician against people like Trump and commit to putting him in jail
Have people vote for said person
As opposed to in Iran where you only have 1 option
There is nothing stopping America from being similar to NZ/Canada/France/Sweden or insert whatever idealist state you look up to with universal healthcare, gun control etc, you just need people to vote for it
Left Wing Americans are constantly saying that capitalism is the problem because they seem unable or unwilling to talk to their neighbours
intrepid@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 160d
The problem isn't the system. The system exists only to help the people maintain the upper hand. It's the people themselves. Trump is only a symptom of a problem with the people. In fact, even if he drops dead tomorrow, you'll find a queue of a couple of dozen even worse psychopaths waiting to take his place.
It's hard to see the problem when you're part of the US society. But it's evident from the outside. An average of more than one school shooting happens in the US per day. This isn't even a news these days. But it's unheard of and unbelievable in other nations. If anything similar happens, it would be news and discussion for a year. You don't go to churches or malls or railway stations (there is such a thing) worrying if you'll die of gunshots.
Political assassinations are a big deal elsewhere - even of a political opponent. You should have seen the US republicans celebrating the murder of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. So the left must be good, right? Of course, they were celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The sudden disappearance of a human life is something most people can't stomach. Yet, people were celebrating the gory videos!
Similar attitude with armies. There are no just wars. Wars always cause unjust and unimaginable suffering. Wars must be avoided. Of course that's not an option sometimes. Then your aim must be to attain the objective as fast as possible and restore peace. But all wars are holy wars for Americans. They don't even tolerate it when I suggest that even their military may be committing war crimes (that's charitable, considering what's reported). To them, their military is the righteous force that can do no evil!
This is part of a pattern of excess pride, often called the 'American exceptionalism'. Americans also give little value to perspectives of people in other countries. Many behave as if the US is the entire world! Problems like the Trump-Epstein regime will continue to repeat until Americans start to introspect and self-criticize. It will happen until a big section of Americans open up their mind to the perspectives of others.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 160d
Iran loves to issue empty threats.
They've been crippled. Their ability to project artillery outside their borders is receding with every passing day. As soon as the US/Israel offer them a seat at the bargaining table, they'll come rushing back just like they have every other time the US/Israel has pushed their shit in.
If you love getting rug-pulled, go ahead and root for Iran.
If you want to cheer for the team with the kind of blood-lust necessary to obliterate a civilization, you'd be better off cheering for the US and Israel.
intrepid@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 160d
The war just started. How do you even know what tricks they have up their sleeves? You think dropping big explosives from the air is the only form of warfare? How did that work out for you in Vietnam? This is the same hubris Putin demonstrated. Don't jump the gun.
tackleberry@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 159d
the US has quadrupled military hardware production. That extra juice is for Russia, Putin will be out of the Kremlin in 2 to 3 years. He does not have to like it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 160d
Killed a whole lot of people
intrepid@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 160d
Yeah. Killing little school girls is all you can claim as an achievement! After all, little school girls are the field of expertise of your supreme commander, aren't they?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 160d
We killed a whole lot of school girls in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq as well. Didn't get the same kind of coverage, because the executive branch (and the public) were more disciplined in messaging.
But I think a lot of warfare is, at the end of the day, a libidinal need to "mow the grass" as the genocidal IDF leadership put it. Kill your enemies. Kill their families. Kill their kids. Depopulate territory of opposition.
Do I think dropping big explosives from the air works toward that end? Absolutely.
intrepid@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 160d
I never thought of the US as a benevolent invasion force. I knew they massacred ordinary people. And clearly, you're part of the problem here.
But I'm not talking about that. Despite all the bombs you drop, you fail to achieve anything in the end. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq. Is there one invasion you can say you're proud of? Perhaps psychopaths like you can, based entirely on the blood shed. But for human beings, you just keep sacrificing soldiers till you withdraw with your tail tucked behind you. You create powerful enemies who go on to cause even more damage to you. It's your shortsightedness and simplistic thinking that defeats you in the end.
Meanwhile, your equating human lives to grass, is just lack of humanity. I just pity you. But don't believe for a second that you're immune to it. One day it will be someone else doing it to you.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 159d
You and the rest of the US national media.
Tell it to Raytheon stockholders. Hell, tell it to Facebook stockholders.
More importantly, tell it to every single Palestinian rendered homeless by the Nakba and the subsequent seventy years of genocidal policy. Israel exists in its current state because they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and took their homes, their farms, and cut off their access to Arab neighbors.
Mowing the grass (Hebrew: כיסוח דשא) is a metaphor used to describe periodic Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip to manage the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The term was coined by Efraim Inbar and Eitan Shamir, two columnists for The Jerusalem Post and strategic studies researchers.
Naftali Bennett referred to the idea in a speech in 2018 when he said "מי שלא מכסח את הדשא, הדשא מכסח אותו" ('He who does not mow the grass, the grass mows him')
tackleberry@thelemmy.club · -1 pts · 159d
I see that you have more downvotes than upvotes. It shows you that people do not like what you say even if it is true.
EndOfLine@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 160d
Hey Iran!
Don't forget about the rest of his family and all the sycophants that prop him up.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 49 pts · 160d
UPDATE: (no trade for us, I guess)
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
Worth a shot at least. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take, after all. Nice try!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 158d
Side note: I like how they dress like Obi-wan
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 37 pts · 160d
We double dog dare you.
Killing the US president out of retaliation for an illegal war would make us ... unhappy ... or something. Maybe ... I dunno.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 160d
If you do that, we may have to bomb you in retaliation. Maybe even kill your leaders.
2piradians@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 158d
And by no means, never think about killing the megadonors, even though they'd be softer targets. Without them the US would never be the same...
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 158d
Thanks for mentioning these fine examples of "corporations are people" democracy patriots in action.
orlyowl@piefed.ca · 37 pts · 160d
This sinking seems like a really big deal to me, but I don't feel like it's been treated that way. Everyone seems to react like it's just another example of Trump being shitty, and it is, but also, we sank another country's warship with a torpedo. That seems pretty momentous no matter what country it was.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 160d
And it was unarmed, coming back from an exercise that was essentially a parade. Bonus points of shit!
frongt@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 160d
Apparently the US had pulled out of that exercise at the last minute. So it's the dickest of dick moves.
daychilde@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 160d
Well, I mean, it would have been a little more dickish if we hadn't pulled out and still sank them after… but yeah.
orlyowl@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 160d
I just learned that five minutes ago, and it really does make it even worse.
SarcasticMan@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 160d
This is only the second warship sunk by a nuke sub (HMS Conqueror) and the first warship the US has sunk with a sub since 1945. We won't talk about the Russian cargo ship that "exploded" in 2024.
In the frame of war, this is big. In the frame of history this is huge. The lack of coverage and the apathy to it is ridiculous. This has never happened in our lifetime, well unless you are 80, so we have that going for us...at least its new lol.
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 160d
It's the first fully unarmed warship sunk though, so that makes it unique. Also extra unique is that the nation and crew were basically invited first to the parade in part by the USA. So basically it's one for the history books in that is a modern red wedding.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 160d
Different from smashing their airfields with missiles? Or, is it different because of where it happened?
orlyowl@piefed.ca · 10 pts · 160d
It feels different in a few ways to me. One, it feels much more personal and "fuck you in particular." It's one thing to lob missiles at a base and fuck whoever happens to be there, but you KNOW there's a real possibility that you kill every mother effer on that ship if you hit it with a torpedo.
I'm not articulating it very well, but it's just got a different sort of cruelty that something like shelling an airbase just lacks for me.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 160d
I guess I can sort-of see where you're coming from. Presumably when they're bombing an airbase they're trying to hit planes, destroy runways, etc. If you're in the break room at the time there's a decent chance you don't die. If you're working on a plane, you're probably dead. But, when you sink a ship, everyone goes into the water and there's a good chance they'll die.
To me, the fact that it happened nowhere near Iran is the bigger deal. It means that parts of the world that aren't aligned with either side in the war now have to wonder what might explode in their own territory.
OTOH, at least when you sink a military ship there won't be civilian casualties. If the US had actually declared war on Iran, which of course never happened, but if... then another warship is actually a valid target. This isn't like blowing up an apartment building because a guy on your kill list is in one of the apartments.
orlyowl@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 160d
Good points, especially this one:
I skipped right over that but it's part of it for sure.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 158d
It's an expansion of the theater of war. Virtually all of modern warfare has taken place on the land and in the air. There haven't been true naval battles in a long time.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 158d
There haven't been any naval battles, but there have been plenty of naval ships sunk.
It's an expansion of the theatre of war, because it happened outside Iran. The method doesn't really matter to the theatre of war. It is different that it was a naval vessel hitting another naval vessel. In the past there have been missiles launched from naval vessels that hit ground or air targets, and plenty of naval vessels sunk by missiles or drones. But, I'm not sure how relevant that is.
roux2scour@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 160d
Haha Trump launching tor-pedos
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 160d
We will absolutely not regret sinking it if you do that. How many warships will it take to do the whole line of succession?
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 160d
Seriously. What do we need to do to get you to follow through on that? Is there a go fund me?
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 160d
It would be nice to see, but I still wouldn't have paid 130 human beings just to get another nation do something that should be done by an American. We can't let these foreigners take our jobs or something.
slemptastrophe@piefed.social · 32 pts · 160d
They can have him, and all of his appointees, and the billionaires as well. We won't miss them.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 160d
Be my guest.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 159d
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 160d
We cannot forget that the administration is actively trying to architect a tragedy against Americans. It is high treason.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/03/politics/patel-fbi-national-security-division-firings-iran
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 160d
Ironically, so does his medical team. Based on the bruising, wouldn't surprise me if they're having to draw blood constantly for all the testing required to keep his corpse functional.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 160d
Join the club guys.
Zerlyna@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 160d
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 159d
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 159d
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 14 pts · 159d
Right...... there.
Just make sure he's home first
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 158d
Hilarious. Some comments are so good I wish I could upvote more than once.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 4 pts · 159d
Nuke the tip
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 158d
Just the tip?
FatVegan@leminal.space · 1 pts · 158d
It's just a preventative freedom strike. Nothing serious
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 160d
Oh no please stop don’t
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 160d
Oh no. Anything but that. Don't do anything to our beloved Trump...
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 158d
Deal!
lepinkainen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 159d
I hope they take it on the republican government personally. No point in fighting with an over-funded military lead by a christo-fascist, when you can take it out on retirement age old white folk who had the power to stop the war and decided to lick a pedophiles boots instead.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 159d
You know where he lives.
systemglitch@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 159d
I too am calling for Trump's blood. So it for me guys.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 158d
If they restrict themselves to killing Dogey Americans, I would be alright with Iran infiltrating ICE and conducting operations against the Dogey. I don't consider any member of the Dogey to be of my people anymore.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 157d
yeah more than likely it will be indisciminate and he will play it to his base.
frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io · 8 pts · 160d
How much Trump blood they want? We can probably get like 30 L easy, if they accept in laws.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 160d
kokesh@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 160d
I would never have thought the day of me agreeing on anything with those cleric lunatics will come, but here it is. We all want to see trumps blood.
intrepid@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 160d
I doubt that he has any left. Why else would he be so blood thirsty?
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 159d
That orangeheaded bastard always ignores. How about he sees a repeat of these?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_US_embassy_bombing_in_Beirut
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings
SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev · 2 pts · 158d
A broken clock is right twice a day.
intrepid@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 160d
Just take him to Iran and tell him it's for a blood test. Let the Iranians worry about collecting the sample.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 160d
Tell him it's a test they don't think he can pass. Tell him Obama passed easily.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 159d
"You sunk my battleship! "
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 160d
iran has been calling for things and threatening things for a while now
now does seem like a good opportunity to make good on those threats however it’s starting to appear like iran is the paper tiger we thought all along
vga@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 160d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
They have "made good" on these threats several times. Biggest reason why you don't see them all the time is because the intelligence services of various countries are doing their job.
Reiterate9120@lemmy.org · -1 pts · 159d
The people wanted it, they are dancing in the streets. They are happy the pedo was removed.