He just refused help from Ukraine. Either he is demented, or he is just searching for justifications for pushing against who he consider the real enemy, Europe and Ukraine. Or both.
He's such a dolt, that he sees getting help as admitting weakness, even when he needs it, and even when they are obviously better at it than we are.
In this case, Zelensky was offering their excellent drone technology, and which has been kicking Russia's ass for weeks.
But Trump turned it down saying the “last person we need help from is Zelensky." He's just spicy because Z refuses to surrender his country to a dictator just to make Trump look good.
No you don't get it. He's the greatest person on this planet and should thank noone. Other people should thank him on their knees for even being allowed to be in his presence.
Another example from just this weekend, is the Nordic counsel, that had a meeting on arctic interests, with Canada, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland participating. Where all agreed on strategies for the defense of the Arctic region, and it was stressed that all supported the defense of Greenland.
Another forum where USA is absent, despite also having arctic interests. But are unwelcome because of the threats against Greenland and Canada.
So the very bad future is already here, and NATO countries are preparing to be able to defend themselves without USA.
And this very bad future, is ONLY because of USA. USA has torn up hundreds of agreements with allies, and threatened with invasion, and is waging a trade war, and constantly threatening all sorts of bad things that will happen if we don't do as USA says.
This is just another example, USA wants to force former allies into their illegal war against Iran. And is threatening consequences for not helping USA out of the mess they created.
Maybe we should give Iran a piece of US territory like they are trying to give parts of Ukraine to Russia?
Or we could charge him - not even the US, but Trump personally - a billion dollars per ally, plus another billion per ally for each week beyond whatever unreasonably short deadline he promises us the war will be over with?
Seriously though, we need to phase out fossil fuels and we need to do it 20+ years ago (but now is good too). Sun beams can't be bent by despots' will.
Crucially though, and I cannot stress this enough, you should under no circumstances let them become president of the country with the world's most powerful military.
it's not Nato's job to fight offensive wars for the colonial expansion project of a genocidal aparthied.
Netenyahu needs to bribe and blackmail many European governments like he did for Trump and US congress
The only country to ever invoke Article 5 was the United States. As things stand there is no scenario whatsoever in which Europeans will once again agree to fight and die in a futile American war in the Middle East. Let the Americans sort out their own mess. Perhaps we should even consider trying to find a solution to resuscitate the world economy together with China, India, Iran and other involved parties in the region.
We don't have the resources nor man power to defeat Iran. Our total boots on the ground fighting force is less than 200k. And about 2/3 of that is stationed for home or base defense. So maybe 30k available for this war. It would take 10 times that to fully occupy Iran
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jaennaet@sopuli.xyz · 124 pts · 156d
encelado748@feddit.org · 64 pts · 156d
He just refused help from Ukraine. Either he is demented, or he is just searching for justifications for pushing against who he consider the real enemy, Europe and Ukraine. Or both.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz · 22 pts · 156d
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 156d
And some more.
He's demented, a moron of monumental stupidity, and a colossal arsehole.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 156d
He's such a dolt, that he sees getting help as admitting weakness, even when he needs it, and even when they are obviously better at it than we are.
In this case, Zelensky was offering their excellent drone technology, and which has been kicking Russia's ass for weeks.
But Trump turned it down saying the “last person we need help from is Zelensky." He's just spicy because Z refuses to surrender his country to a dictator just to make Trump look good.
IratePirate@feddit.org · 99 pts · 156d
Quiet piggy! You don't have the cards. Also, have you ever said 'thank you'?
TheFriendlyDickhead@feddit.org · 18 pts · 156d
No you don't get it. He's the greatest person on this planet and should thank noone. Other people should thank him on their knees for even being allowed to be in his presence.
/s obviously
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 72 pts · 156d
For him, yes.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 156d
That already happened when you threatened Canada and Greenland. NATO is no-longer top priority, cooperation around USA is.
Example of that is the EU SAFE program, where also countries outside EU are participating like Norway Canada and Japan.
https://defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu/eu-defence-industry/safe-security-action-europe_en
Another example from just this weekend, is the Nordic counsel, that had a meeting on arctic interests, with Canada, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland participating. Where all agreed on strategies for the defense of the Arctic region, and it was stressed that all supported the defense of Greenland.
Another forum where USA is absent, despite also having arctic interests. But are unwelcome because of the threats against Greenland and Canada.
So the very bad future is already here, and NATO countries are preparing to be able to defend themselves without USA.
And this very bad future, is ONLY because of USA. USA has torn up hundreds of agreements with allies, and threatened with invasion, and is waging a trade war, and constantly threatening all sorts of bad things that will happen if we don't do as USA says.
This is just another example, USA wants to force former allies into their illegal war against Iran. And is threatening consequences for not helping USA out of the mess they created.
ClassyHatter@sopuli.xyz · 55 pts · 156d
The most intelligent statement I have heard from Trump. What can rest of the world do to stop USA and Israel wage war in Iran?
Lemmchen@feddit.org · 30 pts · 156d
Go fuck yourself, you orange piece of shit.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 156d
Maybe we should give Iran a piece of US territory like they are trying to give parts of Ukraine to Russia?
Or we could charge him - not even the US, but Trump personally - a billion dollars per ally, plus another billion per ally for each week beyond whatever unreasonably short deadline he promises us the war will be over with?
Seriously though, we need to phase out fossil fuels and we need to do it 20+ years ago (but now is good too). Sun beams can't be bent by despots' will.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 156d
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 156d
D'oh!
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 25 pts · 156d
I've had a theory that Trump has never had a real friend. Like ever.
Seeing how he treats allies during this administration is confirming that
sidebro@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 156d
Jeff was his only true friend
Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 156d
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 25 pts · 156d
Just say yes, he will forget all about the Iran war in 3 days anyway thanks to dementia...
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 156d
That's actually how you handle folks with dementia. If they say the sky is purple, you agree and try to redirect them.
gnutrino@programming.dev · 27 pts · 156d
Crucially though, and I cannot stress this enough, you should under no circumstances let them become president of the country with the world's most powerful military.
harmbugler@piefed.social · 14 pts · 156d
It's the world's most expensive military. With poor leadership and damaged former alliances, It's not translating into much power at the moment.
Moneyball@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 156d
Two weeks ago, he said he didn’t need anyone’s military support.
Now he says, he needs everyone’s help otherwise NATO is at risk.
I am not sure what it is now that he needs
Update ‘a couple of hours later’: he is yet again saying he does not need help. Lol.
toad@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 156d
How could it be worse than now? We're already led by pedophiles?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 156d
Have you lived in America for the last decade? Trump can ALWAYS find a way to make it worse. For instance, he could order a draft.
I hope he does, that will make young people vote against him.
mr_anny@sopuli.xyz · 18 pts · 156d
He just wants to find a justification to ditch the money consuming NATO.
He's been making beds with Putler Snd Winnie the Pooh and now they have a nice let's fuck this globe circle jerk thing going on.
Just wait the moment when China takes over Taiwan and US will do absolutely nothing.
All the three big babies get what they want. Almost.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 156d
it's not Nato's job to fight offensive wars for the colonial expansion project of a genocidal aparthied.
Netenyahu needs to bribe and blackmail many European governments like he did for Trump and US congress
rogsson@piefed.social · 13 pts · 156d
Lmao fuck off trump, nobody cares what you say. But we’ll listen when you give us the complete Epstein files. Promise.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 156d
Jokes on him, we already are in the bad future and have for a while.
jjpamsterdam@feddit.org · 10 pts · 156d
The only country to ever invoke Article 5 was the United States. As things stand there is no scenario whatsoever in which Europeans will once again agree to fight and die in a futile American war in the Middle East. Let the Americans sort out their own mess. Perhaps we should even consider trying to find a solution to resuscitate the world economy together with China, India, Iran and other involved parties in the region.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 156d
I don't think they can even trigger article 5 this time around since they attacked first.
It's a defensive pact, you can people to defend you not to join in a war you started.
Melchior@feddit.org · 7 pts · 155d
Not only a defensive pact, but limited to attacks in Europe and North America. The US did not want to fight colonial wars for European NATO members.
how_we_burned@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 155d
I don't think Trump cares about that.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 155d
No. Fuck off. We arent drying for zionist wars of bullshit
fierysparrow89@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 156d
I'd very much welcome clarity. Just like with a cancer diagnosis, clarity gives new impetus for dealing with the threat.
IratePirate@feddit.org · 4 pts · 156d
He's a cancer and we need to deal with this threat ASAP. Clear enough?
entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 155d
40 year old, well behaved American looking for adoption.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 156d
Not how NATO works you moron.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 6 pts · 156d
you mean it can get worse???
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 155d
Worse? DeGaule was right about everything. About the US and europes reliance on them about britain in the EU
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 156d
This is going to be freedom fries all over again
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 156d
A few weeks ago, he was willing to disband NATO to get Greenland. Now he needs their help?
lithiumground@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 156d
Puppy needs help,Lets give a hand Hypocrite European countries !
NatakuNox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 156d
We don't have the resources nor man power to defeat Iran. Our total boots on the ground fighting force is less than 200k. And about 2/3 of that is stationed for home or base defense. So maybe 30k available for this war. It would take 10 times that to fully occupy Iran
BigShammy80@feddit.org · 3 pts · 156d
Trump does Trump things
lithiumground@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 156d
Send German Army front line of Ukraine ! Ukraine army gets tired .