Zero Parades devs knew they didn't want to make another cop game after Disco Elysium: 'How people think of the police these days, it's a bit different'

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/zero-parades-devs-knew-they-didnt-want-to-make-another-cop-game-after-disco-elysium-how-people-think-of-the-police-these-days-its-a-bit-different/

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RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 32 pts · 151d (1 reply)

What do you mean these days. Disco Elysium was only 2019.

Ravel@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 150d

Also, I am pretty sure the games main fanbase is probably pretty.. critical of police, to put it mildly.

Beyond that, Zero Parades devs aren't the Disco Elysium devs anyway.

NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 30 pts · 151d

In a similar way, people also view ZA/UM differently, except ZA/UM actually used to be respected a little bit first.

AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 26 pts · 151d (2 replies)

Were any of the original writers left, or did the new owners of ZA/UM hire some hacks and/or use a LLM, prompted to write something in the vein of Disco Elysium?

Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 16 pts · 151d

There might be some lower level person who has some writing credit left, I'm not sure. I know Anton Vill (who drew the thought cabinet) still works at ZA/UM and I think is involved in the artwork of Zero Parades. But none of the original creators of the IP are left, and none of the major contributors (Robert Kurvitz, Argo Tuulik, Martin Luiga) are left.

flamingos@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 150d

Sinamäe (the person quoted in the article) and Justin Keenan (who's listed in the credits of DE as an editor, but apparently did a lot of writing) are still at ZA/UM as writers.

kandoh@reddthat.com · 16 pts · 151d (1 reply)

I totally agree, but also paradoxically think two detectives solving a crime is an essential genre for storytelling.

Two detectives solving a crime.

Doctors treating patients.

A family unit living a normal life.

Workers getting through a normal workday.

Can anyone name any others?

alessandro@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 151d

Any crime done by a spy in one nation is "a solve" from the side of the other nation.

snoons@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 151d (7 replies)

Kek. They're just ignoring their 1000 dislikes thread on Steam.

shani66@ani.social · 4 pts · 151d (1 reply)

Here's hoping people are smart enough to not give them any money

chippydingo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 149d

I decided to try the demo for "Zero Parades" just because it sounded interesting and I thoroughly enjoyed Disco. I think the download time was longer than my playtime and I ultimately uninstalled it since the demo provided an experience that is visually similar to Disco but I lost all desire to play it after a few minutes of shit voice acting and weird new game mechanics that made no sense to me. I am keeping an eye on a few other projects from the original Disco devs such as Tangerine Antarctic so here is hoping one of them puts together a worthwhile game with a new spin on this style. I have to recommend Esoteric Ebb for anyone who was a fan of Disco and wants that kind of experience in a more traditional fantasy setting. I made it to Election day and have a bit of final stuff to do and I will be looking for another game but this has been every bit as good as Disco in my opinion.

alessandro@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 151d (3 replies)

...instead like, you know, being unemployed just because people are angry; I guess.

snoons@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 151d (2 replies)

So you support people that forcefully take away a collectives intellectual property?

jaselle@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 150d (1 reply)

I don't believe in IP, I'm happy to see it eroded.

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 148d

Its not eroded, it just switched.

jaselle@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 150d

They only have 1k dislikes? They have 120k reviews.

jaselle@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 150d (3 replies)

Disco Elysium is 6 years old. Uh I think the opinion of police was pretty similar. I remember seeing ACAB quite frequently then.

nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 150d (2 replies)

the opinion of police was pretty similar. I remember seeing ACAB

that was before ice and before george floyd. the sentiment about police is extremely different now

GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 150d

Yeah, but DE was also made by communists

Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 148d

In the US. DE was made in estonia. Besides, im pretty sure they didnt initially land on a lawman protagonist because they thought: "police? Ohh yeah everyone loves those guys!"

leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 151d (1 reply)

This reminds me, I should get back to playing Esoteric Ebb.

I was enjoying it, but then Slay the Spire 2 came out and I got stuck playing that because it's like crack or nicotine or something addictive and probably harmful for you like that.

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 149d

Esoteric Ebb is fucking awesome and everyone should buy it so they can get funding to add voice acting.