You know how in the last few turns of Civilization, as the winner has become obvious you just start attacking every nation around you to use the military you've been building the entire game?
Yeah that's why you do it right at the end. Or you spam cultural improvements in larger cities so the neighboring cities are cool about all the war units you produce.
I like to let the other civs catch up a little bit before going to war, and wait till the end to dominate because the advanced tech is more fun
If they ever manage to conquer it, Israel would do in Iran (a country of 90 million people) a Genocide so large that it would make the NAZI Holocaust look like a minor footnote in History.
The ultra-racist extremelly violent Jewish-supremacist modern day version of the NAZIs have only not done even worse things than the NAZIs themselves because so far they have yet to occupy enough territory inhabited by people of the ethnicities they openly call "vermin".
If they ever manage to conquer it, Israel would do in Iran (a country of 90 million people) a Genocide so large that it would make the NAZI Holocaust look like a minor footnote in History.
And the World would be like "No, Israel has the right to defend it self. There is no genocide."
Sure mate, the Zionists are just gonna go "No, we don't want it because this territory belongs to the Iranian people!" if they ever got a chance to capture it.
After all, Israel's track record on what they do with any territory they capture in that area is not at all "hold it when they can and then when the locals fight against the occupation call them 'violent', 'terrorists' and even 'vermin' as an excuse to kill them, men, women and children" so clearly only an anti-semite^TM^ would dare think that Israel would take over somebody else's territory and mass murder the locals whilst putting up Israeli "settlements" there.
Don't tell us: for your next trick you're going to click your heels 3 times whilst saying "there's no place like home" and be teleported from fantasy land to your kibutz in "Occupied Territory".
They are running out of Palestinians to genocide now that their Final Solution law has almost passed, so it’s time to expand their ethnic cleansing campaign to FranceIran.
There's a song that is sung at (I'm pretty sure) all schools in my country, a part of everyones childhood, that goes like this:
"Last night I dreamed, something I've never dreamed before. I dreamed there was peace on earth, and all wars were over. I dreamed of a giant hall, where townsmen sat in a row
Then they wrote on an envelope, and stood up and said: "There are no more soldiers, there are no rifles. And no one knows that word military anymore" On the streets, people walked around and went from pub to pub. And everyone drank each other, and danced and smiled." (Those are translated from the Swedish lyrics, didn't think of copying the original ones).
It's originally an American peace song by Ed McCurdy, but the cover by Cornelis Vreeswijk has become ingrained in Swedish culture in a major way. I think of it often, and dream of a world where any of that is true.
I honestly don't know anyone more anti-semitic than Israelis. You may think they're Jewish, but I tend to think they just use Jewish people as human shields.
You have no idea how true your statement is, if we go back to early zionism they had an opposition movement, the Bund, the bund was a jewish labour movement about jewish pride and culture, and most importantly, that jews belong wherever they are, we were made in the diaspora and we belong where we are.
In contrast the Zionism was extremely antisemitic, only the Hetzel and his buddies were good jews, integrated enough to be "Civilized" while still jewish, bellow them there were Coffehaus jews who were more integrated, and bellow them the OstJews the primitive poor jews (Fiddler on the roof). They hated them, and hope that they will be civilized, and those where only Ashkenazim, other jews barely count because they were of inferior races and primitive "barbarian" cultures.
And when nazis arrived, they struggled with boycotts and sanctions, and zionists made a deal with Hitler, to self ethnically cleanse themselves and pay tariffs and help finance Nazi Germany in the process (Haavara agreement). This also hurt international boycotts, because why Boycott nazis for antisemitism if jews are not following the boycotts.
not sure how much support they gave them, and I wonder if it wasn't for that support the Nazi state would have collapsed before the Holocaust. but the end result was the survival of Nazi Germany, and the Holocaust, which genocided the jews that stayed and the Bund movement.
Actually I do but I'm still glad you shared that. It gets worse than that though. Zionist viewed the traditional “ghetto Jew” with absolute revulsion and operated on a framework of psychological essentialism and social dominance orientation.
Chaim Weizmann, the first president of Israel, didn’t want the Jewish masses saved; he viewed them as an inferior caste. In 1937, reflecting on the fate of Europe’s Jews, he said:
“Millions of Jews are dust on the wheels of history that will have to be blown away. They must accept their fate. We do not want them crowding into our Tel Aviv, turning it into a low-grade ghetto.”
Ze’ev Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism, built his movement on collective narcissism, violently contrasting his ideal new “Hebrew” with the traditional Diaspora Jew (whom he derisively called the “Yid”). He wrote:
"Because the Yid is ugly, sickly, and lacks decorum, we shall endow the ideal image of the Hebrew with masculine beauty. The Yid is trodden upon and easily frightened… The Yid is despised by all."
Arthur Ruppin, father of Zionist Sociology, openly embraced eugenics and racial hygiene, treating the Jewish diaspora as raw “human material” to be filtered.
David Ben-Gurion, first prime minister of Israel, frequently and dismissively referred to Diaspora Jews, including Holocaust survivors arriving in Israel, as “human dust” that had no roots and needed to be entirely forged into something else. He argued for strict selection policies to keep the mentally ill, physically weak, or socially “undesirable” Jews out of Palestine so they wouldn’t pollute the new nationalist project.
Rudolf Kasztner, the Zionist leader in Hungary during WWII, negotiated directly with Adolf Eichmann to secure a rescue train for a few hundred prominent Zionists and wealthy individuals. Meanwhile, he intentionally kept quiet as over 430,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz.
Some brave scholars despite immediately being labeled as antisemitic have explored correlations between language used by Zionists against Jews and how it relates to language used during the Salem witch trials, and finding that the negative perception many in the global community had against Jews was manufactured through deliberate efforts by early Zionists indicating the language itself & stereotypes they perpetuated contributed to later actions by Nazi Germany.
What a weird and suggestive way to say that. If I was trying to bait people into calling me anti-semitic, that would be a perfect idea to accomplish that.
Well, over 70% of Israel is Jewish and I don’t think it is the remainder going to war against majority Muslim countries. So it seems to involve a pretty big portion.
nope. separation of the classes is the first step to realizing you are being propagandized. nazi netanyahoo is not jewish, even if he says he is. he’s a zionist and a capitalist.
I’m not saying all Jews are doing genocide at all. Just that saying “Jews have nothing to do with this” is absolutely categorical nonsense. Zionism is inextricably linked to Judaism. Not necessarily the other way around.
Thinking Zionism is linked to Judaism is just knowing what the word means.
zionism was created by capitalists, some of whom happened to be Jewish. the whole point is that it muddies the waters on “who to hate” on purpose, because we should be hating the capitalists.
the problem is not Jews. and i know you’re not saying “all jews” - but when people say things like “the jews want to die”, ignoring the obvious stupidity of that, they miss an opportunity to put the focus on the real group causing this world to implode: zionists and capitalists.
hey. just wanted to say thank you. i enjoy “debates” as much as they can be called “debates” on threads like this and wish there was a debate team like community. could prob start one! though i never was on any formal debate teams I think it would be cool to have a monthly thread, teams created, two weeks of “research time” and then a curated discussion thread. hrm. anyway all that adhd ramble to say i appreciated your reply.
You have to remember that with "birthright" citizenship, there is a constant stream of new voters who not only aren't tired of war, they have a personal financial motivation to increase Israel's borders; they are the "settlers" who steal land rather than buy it.
Loads of Jewish Israelis who have had to serve in the IDF for generations want peace, and have been against Bibi since before he first took office.
90% of them supported the illegal war just like the vast majority support the genocide in Gaza. The Israelis who are demanding peace want it by military domination.
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rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 118 pts · 156d
Israel Is Dropping 2,000-Pound United States made Bombs on Densely-Populated Tehran
Just adding that little precision, although day by day this gets more obvious.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 155d
They didn’t build the jets either…
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 88 pts · 156d
Mihies@programming.dev · 42 pts · 156d
Trump never cared either
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 156d
He probably did care for a fleeting moment, not so much about the people but about him being able to capitalise on the moment for his own benefit.
Then of course, that was too hard and TACO.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 155d
You know how in the last few turns of Civilization, as the winner has become obvious you just start attacking every nation around you to use the military you've been building the entire game?
That's where we're at
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 155d
war weariness and loyalty become an issue tho, if you dont speed rush domination, your cities revolt.
SippyCup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 155d
Yeah that's why you do it right at the end. Or you spam cultural improvements in larger cities so the neighboring cities are cool about all the war units you produce.
I like to let the other civs catch up a little bit before going to war, and wait till the end to dominate because the advanced tech is more fun
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 35 pts · 155d
If they ever manage to conquer it, Israel would do in Iran (a country of 90 million people) a Genocide so large that it would make the NAZI Holocaust look like a minor footnote in History.
The ultra-racist extremelly violent Jewish-supremacist modern day version of the NAZIs have only not done even worse things than the NAZIs themselves because so far they have yet to occupy enough territory inhabited by people of the ethnicities they openly call "vermin".
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 12 pts · 155d
And the World would be like "No, Israel has the right to defend it self. There is no genocide."
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 155d
"There were Hamas tunnels under that girls' school!!!"
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 155d
Whenever they invade, occupy and steal land, they open up the SS and NKVD playbook.
8oow3291d@feddit.dk · -17 pts · 155d
Why do you think that Israel has any desire to conquer Iran? The idea is laughably unfeasible. Israel may be evil, but they are not that stupid.
I think you may be a bit high on propaganda.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 155d
Sure mate, Israel isn't at all trying to conquer all the territory it can and there is no such thing as Greater Israel plan.
On a similar note, there's this river-crossing piece or realestate for sale in New York which would be a wonderful investment for the likes of you.
8oow3291d@feddit.dk · -10 pts · 155d
To say that a Greater Israel plan that includes... Iran... is in any sense real is batshit insane. Some Protocols of the Elders of Zion propaganda.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 155d
Sure mate, the Zionists are just gonna go "No, we don't want it because this territory belongs to the Iranian people!" if they ever got a chance to capture it.
After all, Israel's track record on what they do with any territory they capture in that area is not at all "hold it when they can and then when the locals fight against the occupation call them 'violent', 'terrorists' and even 'vermin' as an excuse to kill them, men, women and children" so clearly only an anti-semite^TM^ would dare think that Israel would take over somebody else's territory and mass murder the locals whilst putting up Israeli "settlements" there.
Don't tell us: for your next trick you're going to click your heels 3 times whilst saying "there's no place like home" and be teleported from fantasy land to your kibutz in "Occupied Territory".
toad@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 154d
No no hitler won't take czecoslovakia
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 155d
They are running out of Palestinians to genocide now that their Final Solution law has almost passed, so it’s time to expand their ethnic cleansing campaign to
FranceIran.BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 155d
I just assumed that, after seeing them clobber Gaza. Israel is genocidal.
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 155d
Fuck war.
M137@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
There's a song that is sung at (I'm pretty sure) all schools in my country, a part of everyones childhood, that goes like this:
"Last night I dreamed, something I've never dreamed before. I dreamed there was peace on earth, and all wars were over. I dreamed of a giant hall, where townsmen sat in a row
Then they wrote on an envelope, and stood up and said: "There are no more soldiers, there are no rifles. And no one knows that word military anymore" On the streets, people walked around and went from pub to pub. And everyone drank each other, and danced and smiled." (Those are translated from the Swedish lyrics, didn't think of copying the original ones).
It's originally an American peace song by Ed McCurdy, but the cover by Cornelis Vreeswijk has become ingrained in Swedish culture in a major way. I think of it often, and dream of a world where any of that is true.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 155d
Paid for and supplied by US taxpayers. Sick.
toad@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 154d
yea americans are the real victims
andybytes@programming.dev · -35 pts · 156d
timewarp@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 156d
I honestly don't know anyone more anti-semitic than Israelis. You may think they're Jewish, but I tend to think they just use Jewish people as human shields.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 156d
You have no idea how true your statement is, if we go back to early zionism they had an opposition movement, the Bund, the bund was a jewish labour movement about jewish pride and culture, and most importantly, that jews belong wherever they are, we were made in the diaspora and we belong where we are.
In contrast the Zionism was extremely antisemitic, only the Hetzel and his buddies were good jews, integrated enough to be "Civilized" while still jewish, bellow them there were Coffehaus jews who were more integrated, and bellow them the OstJews the primitive poor jews (Fiddler on the roof). They hated them, and hope that they will be civilized, and those where only Ashkenazim, other jews barely count because they were of inferior races and primitive "barbarian" cultures.
And when nazis arrived, they struggled with boycotts and sanctions, and zionists made a deal with Hitler, to self ethnically cleanse themselves and pay tariffs and help finance Nazi Germany in the process (Haavara agreement). This also hurt international boycotts, because why Boycott nazis for antisemitism if jews are not following the boycotts.
not sure how much support they gave them, and I wonder if it wasn't for that support the Nazi state would have collapsed before the Holocaust. but the end result was the survival of Nazi Germany, and the Holocaust, which genocided the jews that stayed and the Bund movement.
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 155d
bibi's father was part of those buddies wasn't he? they were also called irgun or something right?
timewarp@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
Actually I do but I'm still glad you shared that. It gets worse than that though. Zionist viewed the traditional “ghetto Jew” with absolute revulsion and operated on a framework of psychological essentialism and social dominance orientation.
Chaim Weizmann, the first president of Israel, didn’t want the Jewish masses saved; he viewed them as an inferior caste. In 1937, reflecting on the fate of Europe’s Jews, he said:
Ze’ev Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism, built his movement on collective narcissism, violently contrasting his ideal new “Hebrew” with the traditional Diaspora Jew (whom he derisively called the “Yid”). He wrote:
Arthur Ruppin, father of Zionist Sociology, openly embraced eugenics and racial hygiene, treating the Jewish diaspora as raw “human material” to be filtered.
David Ben-Gurion, first prime minister of Israel, frequently and dismissively referred to Diaspora Jews, including Holocaust survivors arriving in Israel, as “human dust” that had no roots and needed to be entirely forged into something else. He argued for strict selection policies to keep the mentally ill, physically weak, or socially “undesirable” Jews out of Palestine so they wouldn’t pollute the new nationalist project.
Rudolf Kasztner, the Zionist leader in Hungary during WWII, negotiated directly with Adolf Eichmann to secure a rescue train for a few hundred prominent Zionists and wealthy individuals. Meanwhile, he intentionally kept quiet as over 430,000 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz.
Some brave scholars despite immediately being labeled as antisemitic have explored correlations between language used by Zionists against Jews and how it relates to language used during the Salem witch trials, and finding that the negative perception many in the global community had against Jews was manufactured through deliberate efforts by early Zionists indicating the language itself & stereotypes they perpetuated contributed to later actions by Nazi Germany.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 154d
the more I learn about zionism the more disappointed I am in humanity
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 156d
What a weird and suggestive way to say that. If I was trying to bait people into calling me anti-semitic, that would be a perfect idea to accomplish that.
flandish@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 156d
what about this involves jews? this is israel and there is nothing jewish about those zionist pieces of shit.
theherk@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 156d
Well, over 70% of Israel is Jewish and I don’t think it is the remainder going to war against majority Muslim countries. So it seems to involve a pretty big portion.
flandish@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 155d
nope. separation of the classes is the first step to realizing you are being propagandized. nazi netanyahoo is not jewish, even if he says he is. he’s a zionist and a capitalist.
a faith is not doing this genocide. zionists are.
theherk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 155d
I’m not saying all Jews are doing genocide at all. Just that saying “Jews have nothing to do with this” is absolutely categorical nonsense. Zionism is inextricably linked to Judaism. Not necessarily the other way around.
Thinking Zionism is linked to Judaism is just knowing what the word means.
flandish@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 155d
zionism was created by capitalists, some of whom happened to be Jewish. the whole point is that it muddies the waters on “who to hate” on purpose, because we should be hating the capitalists.
the problem is not Jews. and i know you’re not saying “all jews” - but when people say things like “the jews want to die”, ignoring the obvious stupidity of that, they miss an opportunity to put the focus on the real group causing this world to implode: zionists and capitalists.
theherk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 155d
Don’t disagree with all that. Very clear.
flandish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 155d
hey. just wanted to say thank you. i enjoy “debates” as much as they can be called “debates” on threads like this and wish there was a debate team like community. could prob start one! though i never was on any formal debate teams I think it would be cool to have a monthly thread, teams created, two weeks of “research time” and then a curated discussion thread. hrm. anyway all that adhd ramble to say i appreciated your reply.
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club · 10 pts · 156d
Israel ISNT every single Jew on Earth? WHY are you SO Anti Semetic!
-The ADL!
Mihies@programming.dev · 3 pts · 156d
Are Jews protesting in masses, not voting extreme right and condemning Israel government?
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 156d
Yes. https://www.aljazeera.com/video/newsfeed/2026/3/29/dozens-detained-in-tel-aviv-as-anti-war-protest-turns-violent
Mihies@programming.dev · 8 pts · 155d
You sure that's what "in masses" means? Seems to me like a tiny minority. But even then, that's good.
toad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 155d
i mean i knew a guy in the tsahal. He was a christian russian
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 156d
Besides the obvious issue of conflating religion with politics...
They just had pretty large protests across Israel:
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-891473
You have to remember that with "birthright" citizenship, there is a constant stream of new voters who not only aren't tired of war, they have a personal financial motivation to increase Israel's borders; they are the "settlers" who steal land rather than buy it.
Loads of Jewish Israelis who have had to serve in the IDF for generations want peace, and have been against Bibi since before he first took office.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 156d
90% of them supported the illegal war just like the vast majority support the genocide in Gaza. The Israelis who are demanding peace want it by military domination.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/78-of-jewish-israelis-support-continuing-iran-war-poll/amp/
Its misleading to suggest theres a civil society waiting in the wings. Israel has become a fascist ethnostate.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 155d
And youve proven that by linking this article:
I think to clarify this we'd have to start with counting...
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 155d
And they just passed the death penalty solely for Palestinians. But people like you will still defend these Nazis
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip · -23 pts · 155d
Doorbook@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 155d
Those school girls didn't see it coming.
toad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 155d
they were hamas
QUIC1DE@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 155d
3abas@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 155d
Schools and universities and hospitals, and some residential buildings. I do agree that they have been very precise.
OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 155d
Only one of these things can be true
toad@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 155d
lmao yes, like in gaza, they only killed terrorists /s
toad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 155d