I'm just worried for the troops. The fuckers sending them are ultimately responsible, but the troops should have been warmed not to expose themselves to danger like this.
Not every body joined to carry out a fascist regimes whims, some joined before and are contracted for years. Some people have no option but the military if they want to have health care for their kids. It's an unfortunate truth that many good people are in the military because it's the only way to provide for their family, and a blanket fuck all military members statement shows just how ignorant and stupid you are.
sorry you feel that way.
the us has been a terror state since at least ww2 and has terrorized people all over the world for decades. every place they entered was left in shambles and millions of people are worse off and suffering due to the usa's actions. trump didn´t change the trajectory of american foreign politics and warmongering. america didn´t turn fascist over night. it's only now that a president makes life worse domestically in a very blatant fashion.
after your statement you are not in the position to call someone "ignorant"
Ok and where do you live buddy? It is ignorant to act like everybody in the military is there by choice. When the choice is to let your family starve and die of preventable disease, or join the war machine do you see that as a choice? Is letting your family die an option you keep on the table? 2 of my siblings would not be here today if not for my father's health coverage in the military. Not everybody grew up in well to do families that had options, some took the only opportunities they had and to day that's a choice is pure ignorance. This helps your children have a choice, instead of a grave stone. And the fascist movement in USA really has taken off in the last decade, go watch a George bush talk when he was president. He sounds like a lefty by todays standards with how far the Overton window has shifted. And no I am not justifying the endless stream of "military operations" the USA has partook in, but to compare what's going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.
I am not justifying the endless stream of “military operations” the USA has partook in, but to compare what’s going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.
What do you actually know about Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Yugoslavia? Afghanistan? ...
Only someone as privileged as a USian could say something so completely wrong.
Yeah... only way to have health care for your kids is to blow up other kids. The only way to provide for your family is to provide death to other families.
You cry and call others privileged who have experienced US-backed coups, invasions, sanctions as a collective punishment to starve people, to force countries that who have been taken over to put in severe austerity measures so that people work for fuck-all so that it can be exported to YOUR country for cheap!
And you?? You are crying how oppressed you are? Motherfucker you are not sleeping without a worry whether or not you would wake up after having hour home blown up. You are in fact privileged just from the fact you are living within the Empire that is the US.
Then you justify people joining the military forces that are the ones imposing these terrors onto the global south. You are one depraved and oblivious person. Listen to what the others are saying and read a fucking book for once.
Hint: You can live within the imperial core and still acknowledge your own privilege. I know I am privileged by living in a NATO(Nazi) country.
Most people are more worried about their immediate family than strangers. But yes I do care, and fortunately it's not a call I have had to make but I literally couldn't have kids if I wanted to unless I joined the military today. Too bad the echo chamber here has never had to make a tough call! Maybe they could relate if they had to struggle and grow up poor.
There is something so much more nauseating, cowardly and despicable about lacing therapy language with hatred instead of just telling someone to go fuck themselves
Every single one of them participate in or abet the acts of aggression, crimes, and atrocities carried out across the many conflicts the U.S. is participating and has participated in. As has been pointed out, they help facilitate the killing of civilians, many of which are impoverished.
The fact they're joining for the benefits does not excuse them in any way.
The very last part of your last sentence is a confession.
I think it was misunderstood. I was talking about leaking troop movements, but people probably thought I meant "they didn't sign up to be in harm's way" (which of course, they did)
Name of the guy leads to name of the sister which could lead to name of the ship she’s deploying with making it clear that ship and its entire compliment will be around. Maybe that’s not the guys name, but with opsec like that there’s a solid chance it’s pretty easy to find out.
It doesn’t have to be a lot of information to you for it to be a lot of information to the intelligence wing of some other country.
Oh no. They know the publicly available name of a ship that literally everyone already knows is going there. The slueth that pulled that one out surely deserves a raise.
It's stunning they still haven't learned the basic lessons of the ukraine war, I thought they would have stockpiled a few thousand to hundred thousand cheap interceptors from Ukraine beforehand.
Drones is one and another is that all social media is monitored. There's a rather infamous video clip of a Russian trooper bragging online only to receive a missile at his exact coordinates.
Hands off the phone and don't even breathe near an electronic that isn't religiously secured through military encryption, because you're data is constantly being sold and resold for imaginary dollars.
She's coming back in a box shipped back by Amazon delivery to her door. It's an awful thing to say. But if you don't get the joke you shouldn't be on the Internet.
The more you think you know, the less you know. Asking something because you don't know should never be punished. That is exactly what creates ignorance.
Also, As if everyone could know what's always going on nowadays? Some people have a life besides politics.
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PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 139d
That's some great OpSec right there :/
errer@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 139d
Not exactly a secret that we’re deploying troops and they’re gonna be there a while
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 139d
I'm just worried for the troops. The fuckers sending them are ultimately responsible, but the troops should have been warmed not to expose themselves to danger like this.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 41 pts · 138d
Wat? Pretty sure they knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the fucking army.
Twongo@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 139d
they joined voluntarily. f them.
innermachine@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 138d
Not every body joined to carry out a fascist regimes whims, some joined before and are contracted for years. Some people have no option but the military if they want to have health care for their kids. It's an unfortunate truth that many good people are in the military because it's the only way to provide for their family, and a blanket fuck all military members statement shows just how ignorant and stupid you are.
Twongo@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 138d
sorry you feel that way. the us has been a terror state since at least ww2 and has terrorized people all over the world for decades. every place they entered was left in shambles and millions of people are worse off and suffering due to the usa's actions. trump didn´t change the trajectory of american foreign politics and warmongering. america didn´t turn fascist over night. it's only now that a president makes life worse domestically in a very blatant fashion.
after your statement you are not in the position to call someone "ignorant"
innermachine@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 138d
Ok and where do you live buddy? It is ignorant to act like everybody in the military is there by choice. When the choice is to let your family starve and die of preventable disease, or join the war machine do you see that as a choice? Is letting your family die an option you keep on the table? 2 of my siblings would not be here today if not for my father's health coverage in the military. Not everybody grew up in well to do families that had options, some took the only opportunities they had and to day that's a choice is pure ignorance. This helps your children have a choice, instead of a grave stone. And the fascist movement in USA really has taken off in the last decade, go watch a George bush talk when he was president. He sounds like a lefty by todays standards with how far the Overton window has shifted. And no I am not justifying the endless stream of "military operations" the USA has partook in, but to compare what's going on today to what military action looked like 20 years ago is just silly.
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 138d
What do you actually know about Korea? Vietnam? Iraq? Yugoslavia? Afghanistan? ...
Only someone as privileged as a USian could say something so completely wrong.
9skyguy0@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 138d
Almost as if there are other jobs out there besides military. Or do those not count?
Also, the fact you think Bush sounds like a lefty further highlights your own sheer ignorance.
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 138d
How many other people's siblings aren't there anymore because of what your father helped carry out?
hamid@crazypeople.online · 14 pts · 138d
Every US soldier is an evil piece of shit.
EmmiLime@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 138d
Yeah... only way to have health care for your kids is to blow up other kids. The only way to provide for your family is to provide death to other families.
innermachine@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 138d
So you are familiar with the American nightmare? Why do you think so few have kids anymore.
EmmiLime@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 138d
You cry and call others privileged who have experienced US-backed coups, invasions, sanctions as a collective punishment to starve people, to force countries that who have been taken over to put in severe austerity measures so that people work for fuck-all so that it can be exported to YOUR country for cheap!
And you?? You are crying how oppressed you are? Motherfucker you are not sleeping without a worry whether or not you would wake up after having hour home blown up. You are in fact privileged just from the fact you are living within the Empire that is the US.
Then you justify people joining the military forces that are the ones imposing these terrors onto the global south. You are one depraved and oblivious person. Listen to what the others are saying and read a fucking book for once.
Hint: You can live within the imperial core and still acknowledge your own privilege. I know I am privileged by living in a NATO(Nazi) country.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 138d
And do you not care about the families and children in the countries they plunder and rape?
innermachine@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 138d
Most people are more worried about their immediate family than strangers. But yes I do care, and fortunately it's not a call I have had to make but I literally couldn't have kids if I wanted to unless I joined the military today. Too bad the echo chamber here has never had to make a tough call! Maybe they could relate if they had to struggle and grow up poor.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 138d
The "echo chamber" here includes people who lost family and friends to US invasions, f off
hamid@crazypeople.online · 17 pts · 138d
You think growing up poor would make me feel bad about them signing up to kill my family?
DEATH TO AMERICA
hamid@crazypeople.online · 13 pts · 138d
I hope every US soldier returns in a box
innermachine@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 138d
I know that comment can only come from pain. I hope you can heal 🙏
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 138d
There is something so much more nauseating, cowardly and despicable about lacing therapy language with hatred instead of just telling someone to go fuck themselves
9skyguy0@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 138d
Every single one of them participate in or abet the acts of aggression, crimes, and atrocities carried out across the many conflicts the U.S. is participating and has participated in. As has been pointed out, they help facilitate the killing of civilians, many of which are impoverished.
The fact they're joining for the benefits does not excuse them in any way.
The very last part of your last sentence is a confession.
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 138d
Most join because they're rapists and they know rape is legal for soldiers.
lorty@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 137d
The US, specially internationally, has always been a fascist regime.
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 137d
domestically too, but only if you don't look/act/think like the privileged group.
hamid@crazypeople.online · 15 pts · 138d
US troops are suckers and losers
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 137d
Now I know why.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 137d
Why did your comment get 14 downvotes?
PattyMcB@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 137d
I think it was misunderstood. I was talking about leaking troop movements, but people probably thought I meant "they didn't sign up to be in harm's way" (which of course, they did)
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
Lemmy has a peculiar way of demonstrating a negative consensus that is a puzzle to decipher.
philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 139d
What is opsec
thecaptaintrout@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 139d
Operational Security. I.e. securing information related to deployments, plans, attacks, strikes, etc etc etc.
Controlling access to any information that could be used to gain intelligence on troop/ship movements, locations, timing, etc.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 139d
For an older example, here's a cartoon short about one Private Snafu.
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 138d
Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts: Yeah she's gonna die.
Prayers: Hey God, remember to warm up the brimstone for this one!
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 139d
Loose lips sink ships.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 137d
What? Troops are going to Iran? There's no possible way anyone in the world could have known that if it weren't for this post!
.....
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 137d
It’s about the specifics, not the generalities.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 137d
These are the all of the specifics in the post: Iran and at least 10 months.
Spies rejoicing in the streets over this enormous haul of data.
ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 137d
Name of the guy leads to name of the sister which could lead to name of the ship she’s deploying with making it clear that ship and its entire compliment will be around. Maybe that’s not the guys name, but with opsec like that there’s a solid chance it’s pretty easy to find out.
It doesn’t have to be a lot of information to you for it to be a lot of information to the intelligence wing of some other country.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 137d
Oh no. They know the publicly available name of a ship that literally everyone already knows is going there. The slueth that pulled that one out surely deserves a raise.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 138d
Get in the box for israel
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 138d
It's stunning they still haven't learned the basic lessons of the ukraine war, I thought they would have stockpiled a few thousand to hundred thousand cheap interceptors from Ukraine beforehand.
Napster153@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 138d
No money. No movement. Funni graph must go up number up up up!
What do you mean we're losing moneyh Donnie?! You promised us more moneyh!
Cheap?! Sell and make cheap?!
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 137d
Our troops should have been sent to defend Ukraine.
mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 137d
Yes. In 2014.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
Agreed.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 137d
At least Ukraine was unlawfully invaded, so sending troops to assist in defence of an unlawful invasion would be good use of American troops.
I suppose using American troops to unlawfully invade Iran is close enough for this administration.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
This administration’s single goal: undermine a tradition of free elections, open discourse, accountability, and ultimately democracy.
Examine our invasion through this lens and it all makes sense.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 139d
Sis your back! ⚰️
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 138d
Sis my what?
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 137d
What's wrong with her back? If she has medical issues she shouldn't be deployed.
WanderWisley@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 137d
She got her back blown out, by a sniper…
wpb@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 138d
I hope she comes back earlier than planned :)
hamid@crazypeople.online · 15 pts · 138d
Come back in a box
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 138d
Joe America here. So brave. Where exactly is she going and how many intercept missiles are there on boards? Glory to USA
PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 137d
Next gen US antimissile:
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 139d
Can someone explain this joke?
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 138d
Um, drones? It’s a bit confusing cause there’s several possible options
Napster153@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 138d
Drones is one and another is that all social media is monitored. There's a rather infamous video clip of a Russian trooper bragging online only to receive a missile at his exact coordinates.
Hands off the phone and don't even breathe near an electronic that isn't religiously secured through military encryption, because you're data is constantly being sold and resold for imaginary dollars.
sinematic@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 138d
I don't get it, what's with the amazon delivery?
Eddbopkins@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 138d
She's coming back in a box shipped back by Amazon delivery to her door. It's an awful thing to say. But if you don't get the joke you shouldn't be on the Internet.
LumiNocta@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 137d
You almost helped someone by explaining something and ruined it at the last moment.
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 137d
People have a responsibility to be politically aware.
LumiNocta@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 137d
The more you think you know, the less you know. Asking something because you don't know should never be punished. That is exactly what creates ignorance.
Also, As if everyone could know what's always going on nowadays? Some people have a life besides politics.
mech@feddit.org · 6 pts · 137d
Understanding "Amazon delivery" as a euphemism for death has absolutely nothing to do with political awareness.
BleatingZombie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 137d
And how do they do that? I do it by asking questions
wowwoweowza@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 134d
My comment was not inspired by a question. But yes… ask questions. No need to shut people down.
mech@feddit.org · 9 pts · 137d
How about you fuck all the way off with your laughable attempt at gatekeeping the internet
sinematic@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 78d
As a french dude I really have no clue what Americans have as references.
mech@feddit.org · 2 pts · 78d
As a German, neither do I.
Eddbopkins@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 137d
Grow up, I gave an answer to the question. I didn't gatekeep anything.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 137d
Oh snap, gate keeping the internet!