Russian billionaire proposes 12-hour workday amid ‘economic crisis’

https://tvpworld.com/92386738/russian-billionaire-12-hour-workday-needed-amid-economic-crisis

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JamieDub86@piefed.social · 152 pts · 132d (5 replies)

How can you have a billionaire and an economic crisis?

Meron35@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 132d (2 replies)

The billionaire is the economic crisis

JamieDub86@piefed.social · 7 pts · 132d

I was being a bit tongue in cheek.

chahn.chris@piefed.social · -5 pts · 132d

Is the economic crisis in the room with us right now?

hOrni@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 132d (1 reply)

I'm pretty sure, that getting rid of one will also remove the other.

nimisnimi@lemmy.ca · -13 pts · 131d

That's how they tried "fixing things" in the post tzar Russia (and got themselves the USSR). The "communism" has never really worked anywhere.

I'm sure there are many more examples of "let's eat the rich"/"kill all the wrong ones" - getting all f. up.

stoy@lemmy.zip · 68 pts · 132d (18 replies)

I have worked 12h days, he can go fuck himself.

Shyze3D@feddit.org · 31 pts · 132d (1 reply)

As long as this is about people in Russia and as long as this will lead to an end of the war, I don‘t care. Seems like sanctions pressure them to suggest this.

stoy@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 132d

Fair point

Goodeye8@piefed.social · 17 pts · 132d (1 reply)

Maybe we should remind billionaires that economists used to predict we'd work even less than we currently do? Keynes went as far as to predict we'd be working 15 hours a week by 2030.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 131d

The ultra wealthy hate Keynes, it's why they've pushed governments away from Keynesian policies for decades

azimir@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 132d (6 replies)

My school tried to schedule me teaching 9 hours straight (sorry, with a 45 minute break, so a total of 9:45). Get fucked. Teaching is fraking energy intensive and I literally can't keep going that long. Their reasoning? It's hard to schedule the classrooms since we refuse to get enough of them, so we'll just have the faculty and students have insane schedules. Did I mention it was also going to have university students be in class 9 hours per day? NO ONE can learn like that, but it's really good at saving money.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 132d (5 replies)

I’ve been doing four hours teaching at a university in the mornings and six as a barista in the afternoon, and I’m fucking dying from the energy drain. Nine hours of just teaching would have me curling up and bed rotting every day after work.

azimir@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 131d (4 replies)

Huge hugs all around for those making ends meet with their own two hands!

My so-called university is run by people who have never taught a class in their lives. I'm getting out asap.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 131d (3 replies)

Good, for you (not sarcasm). I know some people teach at universities mostly to support their research, but if you’re there to educate, it sounds like a horrible environment for all involved.

azimir@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 131d (2 replies)

Thank you. I do like the teaching and student outcomes more than research. That's not a route to huge success as a professor if you're measuring on the money, rank, and fame scale, but it's who I am and seeing my students succeed is my life affirming activity.

When I get out asap it'll be to another school where I hope I can find a community who values education, not just a grant size measuring contest. It's somewhere out there.

idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 131d (1 reply)

It also just occurred to me how terrible it would be for research focused instructors as well- even if they actually just wanted to put their name on a bunch of (grad) student work, those students wouldn’t be able to do much meaningful work with that kind of schedule.

azimir@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 131d

Bingo. They give our masters students (officially) four months to choose, execute, and write their thesis. Nothing of real note comes out of the process.

We can do so much better, but it would reduce profits.

Huge hugs all around because we will do better. The students deserve better and so do the teachers.

GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 132d (1 reply)

Gulag, war or work. Its your choice!

DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org · 3 pts · 132d

Those are excellent choices for the billionaire!

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 132d

ive seen on indeed there were jobs with 12hr work days, surprise, surprise which demographic it targets.

Saapas@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 132d (3 replies)

Some 12h days and even longer I've done have been alright. But that's with +50% and after two hours +100% overtime pay and it wasn't as a rule but rather an exception for a specific week

stoy@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 132d (2 replies)

I worked 12h alternating day/night shifts on an irregular schedule for 4.5 years....

I don't recommend it

Saapas@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 132d (1 reply)

That sounds horrifc tbh. For me the 12h+ shifts were just the work day continuing past the normal 8 hours and usually into the evening. Depending on the specific work pretty tiring but honestly not so bad. At least when you know it's temporary, the weather isn't too bad and if it doesn't extend so much that you'll be lacking sleep.

stoy@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 132d

Oh yeah, it was shit.

I manned an internal IT helpdesk with 24/7 coverage for a global company.

This included holidays as well.


I worked three new years eves, terrible...

weeeeum@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 132d (1 reply)

This will surely help their demographic crisis!

"Mothers, fathers, please work 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, while raising half a dozen children for the meat grinder"

Saapas@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 132d

It's meat grinder for both men and women, gotta make those babies while doing away with the older models

tal@lemmy.today · 52 pts · 132d (9 replies)

“And the sooner we switch to this new schedule—from 8 AM to 8 AM, including Saturdays—the faster we will undergo this transformation.” 

Plus a six day workweek.

runiq@feddit.org · 47 pts · 132d

Reminder: When the billionaire says "we," they mean you.

Reminder: When the billionaire says "it's good for the economy," you are not the economy.

bufalo1973@piefed.social · 20 pts · 132d (1 reply)

72 h/week.

I have another proposal: 99% taxes above $1 million (equivalent) of income, including ALL income.

tal@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 132d

So, I don't know how things work in specifically Russia, but in general, I think that it's not so much the level of taxation as it is loopholes.

For example, can the companies that he controls be directed to lend him money on terms that he directs without it being taxed by the Russian state?

More-broadly, I'd guess that it would be exceptionally difficult to impose taxes on specifically him, because he's buddies with Putin and tied up in control of the country. If the system is actively interested in avoiding taxing you, it's likely going to find ways to not do so.

grranibal@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 132d (3 replies)

Property doesn’t need days off, make it Sunday too B) /s

idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 132d (1 reply)

Tbh, if we gave property sufficient time off (in the form of crop rotation and fallow years), our agricultural system would be a lot more sustainable.

grranibal@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 132d

One can dream

tal@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 132d
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chaosCruiser@futurology.today · 6 pts · 132d

And this plan will take only five years. As a matter of fact, we should call it a five-year plan.

moe@programming.dev · 3 pts · 131d

So just another 996

webp@mander.xyz · 31 pts · 132d

Russian billionaire

economic crisis

12-hour workday

🤢

kungfuratte@feddit.org · 26 pts · 132d (2 replies)

German chancellor Friedrich Merz likes that.

IratePirate@feddit.org · 4 pts · 131d

Don't give Fotzenfritz ideas. He'll hear it, get all jealous and demand a 36-hour workday.

FatVegan@leminal.space · 1 pts · 131d

Man these Russians are onto something

Kenny2999@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 132d (2 replies)

core@leminal.space · 7 pts · 132d (1 reply)

Sounds like America, except we also depend on war for our economy

nimisnimi@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 132d

Putin's kleptocracy didn't succeed (never had the intention either, as for any kleptocracy) in creating or facilitating of any high tech company with a global reach - like IBM, Apple, Intel, Microsoft, Amazon etc.

Instead, Putin has been destroying businesses: Yukos (an independent oil company, though) or, more recently, effectively expropriated Yandex or VK. The founders of these businesses had to leave (flee) the country too.

atropa@piefed.social · 19 pts · 132d (1 reply)
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Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 132d

With Russian windows it's always a possibility

ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 18 pts · 132d (2 replies)

For one I approve. Do it Sundays too. Why not make 16 hour days too?

If Russians don't want to denefestrate Putin over war crimes, maybe they will do it if pushed to the personal breaking point.

ICastFist@programming.dev · 10 pts · 132d (1 reply)

If you think about it, working them to the bone is a great way to reduce their energy for a revolt

ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 5 pts · 132d

Long term a full demographic collapse is even better for everyone around Russia.

Insekticus@aussie.zone · 14 pts · 132d

Would love to see them try to implement them. People will throw them out of the highest windows they can find.

Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 131d

YOU FIRST.

nuko147@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 131d

With all that technology, 6 hours should be the new norm like decades ago, but billionaires must double their wealth every few years..

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 132d

Maybe he could try not being a billionnaire anymore and giving back his money to society, so nobody needs to work for this leech?

Jay101@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 132d

Following Merz's footsteps, I see

twinnie@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 132d (3 replies)

I honestly think this is an April Fools. I recall the Russians have a sort of darkly twisted take on it.

Melchior@feddit.org · 15 pts · 132d (1 reply)

Russians also have a darkly twisted take on reality...

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 132d

alcohol distorts that reality quite well.

tal@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 132d

It said that the post was on Monday, which would be two days before April 1.

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 132d

Why doesn’t he give up a few of his billions to help stabilise the economy instead? He’d barely miss them.

chasteinsect@programming.dev · 7 pts · 132d

I read 12 hours / week and thought damn Russians are progressive out of the sudden 💀

RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 132d

Are they out of billionare piggy banks?

Tryenjer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 132d (2 replies)

That's not enough. It should be 24 hours of work per day, in a 10-day week.

Pip@feddit.org · 4 pts · 132d

Sounds like it's time for a promotion!

nimisnimi@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 132d

Also penalties, if anyone wouldn't show up

vivalapivo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 131d

People in this thread think they are protected from this happening with them, while being governed by the same rules and principles. You disgust me.

Doomsider@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 130d

Russia could give a shit about their civilians. Send them to the meat grinder! Garbage country, they deserve so much better.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 132d (2 replies)

That's not for you to decide.

tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 132d (1 reply)

Formally, no, but he's in Putin's inner circle, so he might have considerable influence on that decision.

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 132d

Yeah, but what i mean: same as with some CEO dude deciding "no homeoffice anymore". Sorry, but you're just gonna wreck your company with such a broad decision for all. Even more so for a whole nation.

Alex_Mihalchuk@piefed.world · 3 pts · 132d

The only thing that interests me about this news is that оrkostan is in trouble. And that's a good thing.

Drusas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 132d

For themselves, right?

ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 132d

Man, imagine if all those soldiers were suddenly called back into civilian life, I'm mr tycoon there would love the "radical increase in labor"

ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 132d

Russians will happily work 20-hour workdays if it helps mother Russia wage wars on their imagined enemies.

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 130d (1 reply)

Why do Russian elites hate their people so much?

They get the killed in wars, they want to overwork them, ...

46_and_2@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 130d

That's what they've done for hundreds of years with their serfs. Seems to still work...

Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 130d

Rules for thee but not for me. How much does this jerk work?

zerobot@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 131d
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