Or triplets in January and one in November, or one in January and triplets in November (but it was definitely these two months). She's crazy – capable of anything.
I know two people who had full term still born babies. They both absolutely refer to them as babies and as having given birth. I'm only 6 months pregnant and if I lost the pregnancy at this point I would say I lost my son. He's very real and alive to me, he moves and touches me many times an hour, already keeps me up every night. He's a real dude in there.
That said, I've had two miscarriages and consider those lost pregnancies, not lost children. I've seen people online say things like "mother of 4, 2 in heaven" though.
Having something die inside you can fuck you up forever.
I was surprised to learn that there are many women who have never had an orgasm. And that pressure to have one has become yet another social imperative women never asked for. Why shame the woman? Should they not have agency over their own bodies? The implication that it's a failing of their partner suggests that it's beyond their control.
It feels like a very male-centric outlook to view orgasms as essential to sex. Of course, one would assume women could take matters into their own hands, so to speak, but I've been told by female friends that, for many women, it's not as simple as that, psychologically.
My own opinion is that, in our race for equality (which I support), we've often chosen to flatten gender differences rather than celebrate or acknowledge them. We've assumed that sexuality/desire/impulse/physiology is the same across genders, and that differences are down to individual mindsets rather than biological. I think it's both, but we've neglected the latter.
There was a study about womens sexual satisfaction in long term relationships and a high percentage said they were not satisfied.
Its not just about orgasms specifically I'd bet, and unfortunately a lot of men don't really think about the womans pleasure during sex, they get off and then they're done.
Of course I'm sure there's not really a way to blanket say what the problem ultimately is as it depends on the situation/people.
Yep, I think it's a mixed bag and isn't always just about male sexual selfishness. I think it's common to conflate a perceived 'failure' on the man's part with selfishness, when in reality it's often the opposite. I expect many man feel pressure to get their partners 'over the line' and that in itself presents insecurities and psychological barriers that are often ridiculed but are a manifestation of that pressure. As always communication is always key, and improving that is something that men and women can only benefit from.
I myself don't view orgasms as essential to sex. At least not anymore. I am a bit saddened that my gf says she has never had an orgasm. And I don't think anyone in particular is to blame here.
It has improved massively, at least in the west. Saying "somewhat" is a massive underestimation and undermindes the fight of women for hundreds of years.
64 Comments
gibmiser@lemmy.world · 143 pts · 143d
Having 4 babies in 1 year in the 1800s had to be quite the achievement
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 99 pts · 143d
Not impossible though. Two in January, two in November.
victorz@lemmy.world · 76 pts · 143d
Or just the four of them together in one go I guess.
homes@piefed.world · 59 pts · 143d
Regardless of which way it happened, I’d be crying a lot, especially if it happened in the 1800s.
db2@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 143d
In the 1800s you'd be counting yourself lucky you survived it.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 7 pts · 143d
Food was much cheaper and you were allowed to put them to work right away.
Plus most of them died before five anyways.
homes@piefed.world · 16 pts · 143d
Ah, yes, the 1800s… When it was perfectly legal to put newborn babies to work in the coal-mining sweat shops of South London
Very Tiny Tim: Please, Sir, may I have some WHAAAAA! WHAAAA! WHAAAAA!
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 143d
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 6 pts · 143d
Not just legal but encouraged.
homes@piefed.world · 6 pts · 143d
Encouraged by all the starvation, poverty, and pestilence
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 143d
They yearn for the mines after all
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 143d
Or triplets in January and one in November, or one in January and triplets in November (but it was definitely these two months). She's crazy – capable of anything.
M137@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 141d
Heck, you could even have 2,5 and then 1,5. Just that the chance of long term survival for them would be way less.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
insert SM64 menu music as pannenkoek talks about half-childbirths
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 143d
Or 6 at once but 2 didn't make it
pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 143d
Or octuplets born on new year's eve so half were in one year and half were in the next.
victorz@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 143d
Now we're going into bitch territory. 🐕
Mac@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 143d
I knew a set of quads in school. They were all really cool.
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Nice! Identical or fraternal?
Mac@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 142d
Well, i didn't examine their DNA lol but they all presented the same gender and were visually similar to each other.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
Sounds like identical then I guess. Pretty wild!
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 143d
Irish quadruplets?
Taleya@aussie.zone · 26 pts · 143d
Never said they came to term
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 143d
Taleya@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 143d
How many people from the 1800's do you know
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 143d
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 143d
Personally, or by reputation?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 143d
Gladys and Hugo. 2. They dead tho. Gladys will live forever in my heart because she was my favorite organist growing up.
ChexMax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 141d
I know two people who had full term still born babies. They both absolutely refer to them as babies and as having given birth. I'm only 6 months pregnant and if I lost the pregnancy at this point I would say I lost my son. He's very real and alive to me, he moves and touches me many times an hour, already keeps me up every night. He's a real dude in there.
That said, I've had two miscarriages and consider those lost pregnancies, not lost children. I've seen people online say things like "mother of 4, 2 in heaven" though.
Having something die inside you can fuck you up forever.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 141d
EyIchFragDochNur@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 143d
Only if they survive until birth.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 143d
... fortunately for you, I have a treatment that won't cost much. No, you can't watch. Also, there's a discount if you pay for a full year in advance.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 18 pts · 143d
victorz@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 143d
I'm not a fan of this use of "whom".
cattywampas@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 143d
Because it's incorrect.
victorz@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 143d
Exactly the reason why, indeed.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 143d
Slightly smarter dumb-dumbs get corrected a lot so they just always use the "more proper" sounding one while still not actually understanding the rule
Janx@piefed.social · 7 pts · 143d
It's like YouTubers who say "thee" because they think it's a more formal version of "the". Drives me crazy...
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 143d
That’s rage bait, right?
victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
I'm glad my YouTube algorithm has been honed and curated for so long that I never get suggested morons like that.
Janx@piefed.social · 7 pts · 143d
But it does rhyme with "womb", if you're composing slam poetry.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 143d
You joke, but I'm currently studying the history of my area's mental health system and people believed giving birth and lactating made women insane.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 143d
They were describing post partum symptoms most likely. Pretty rough stuff for some people. Some people can get ptsd from it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 143d
Yup. And what's worse, you can temporarily alleviate the symptoms by getting pregnant. I know someone with 13 kids who, uh, self medicated that way.
cunnililgus@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 142d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
i'm sure there's some clinical term
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 141d
Must be "Clown Car Vagina", only because it reminds me of an old demotivational poster
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 143d
The solution is obviously cocaine.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
They actually got their clit rubbed by the doctor. Then some doctor got tired of fingering many women and invented the vibrator.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 141d
So the doctors gave women orgasms?
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Yes. It was the “cure” for “hysteria”
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 143d
I was surprised to learn that there are many women who have never had an orgasm. And that pressure to have one has become yet another social imperative women never asked for. Why shame the woman? Should they not have agency over their own bodies? The implication that it's a failing of their partner suggests that it's beyond their control.
It feels like a very male-centric outlook to view orgasms as essential to sex. Of course, one would assume women could take matters into their own hands, so to speak, but I've been told by female friends that, for many women, it's not as simple as that, psychologically.
My own opinion is that, in our race for equality (which I support), we've often chosen to flatten gender differences rather than celebrate or acknowledge them. We've assumed that sexuality/desire/impulse/physiology is the same across genders, and that differences are down to individual mindsets rather than biological. I think it's both, but we've neglected the latter.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 141d
There was a study about womens sexual satisfaction in long term relationships and a high percentage said they were not satisfied.
Its not just about orgasms specifically I'd bet, and unfortunately a lot of men don't really think about the womans pleasure during sex, they get off and then they're done.
Of course I'm sure there's not really a way to blanket say what the problem ultimately is as it depends on the situation/people.
YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
Yep, I think it's a mixed bag and isn't always just about male sexual selfishness. I think it's common to conflate a perceived 'failure' on the man's part with selfishness, when in reality it's often the opposite. I expect many man feel pressure to get their partners 'over the line' and that in itself presents insecurities and psychological barriers that are often ridiculed but are a manifestation of that pressure. As always communication is always key, and improving that is something that men and women can only benefit from.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 142d
I myself don't view orgasms as essential to sex. At least not anymore. I am a bit saddened that my gf says she has never had an orgasm. And I don't think anyone in particular is to blame here.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 143d
Better treatment options though.
sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 143d
MTZ@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 143d
Also heroin and dildos. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 142d
Opiates make it harder to orgasm.
vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 142d
it has never not been a rough time to be a woman lmao
Soulg@ani.social · 6 pts · 141d
No but things have certainly improved somewhat
zemo@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 141d
It has improved massively, at least in the west. Saying "somewhat" is a massive underestimation and undermindes the fight of women for hundreds of years.
Soulg@ani.social · 1 pts · 141d
Can't win no matter what I say I guess
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 141d
undermindes reminds me of Lourdes. Both have extra letters that don't need to be there.
alina@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
happydoors@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 141d
2026 after the “SAVE America act”
jdr@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 143d
The old "Irish quadruplets"
toynbee@piefed.social · 5 pts · 143d
I'm a man, but I like it when my wife has orgasms. Often I do, too. Sometimes the two coincide and I really like that.
I suspect men of old also loved their lovers, though not universally. Hopefully the ladies came as well.
daggermoon@piefed.world · 4 pts · 143d
I'll give mommy an orgasm whenever she wants
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Hysterical?
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 143d
Yes, but lets not discuss the fainting spells and the massage treatments that noble women received to relieve their bouts of "hysteria".
Honestly, I wonder how much of that is real versus made up for slander "Let them eat cake" was not quite ancient history in the Victorian era.
zerobot@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 143d