Wouldn't infinite universe accommodate infinite possibilities, which includes the items non-existance? So if they were definitively able to prove the stones exist across all existence, then that could be the differentiator?
Yes, except until that point he (and the rest of the multiverse) didn't know that the infinity stones existed elsewhere and were being used as paperweights.
So the use of the word "infinity" to describe them couldn't have been a reference to how many of them there were.
Side tangent but I felt like this one scene drastically (albeit not clear at the time) shifted the tone/direction for the rest of the MCU going forth - just for essentially a light chuckle and mild worldbuilding (illustrating the insignificance of the world/timelines ikik).
Looking back and seeing what's been (barely) done, I wonder if those writers would've gone with that same direction?
This scene was great at setting the stakes, the most powerful thing from the last saga are now paperweights. That was a great scene. Loki knew how powerful these stones were, he used one of them,m but now they are nothing. If I recall correctly this was after he tried to use his own magic. So it was confirmation that whatever this realm was, it didn't just work on him, it worked on the most powerful thing he could have imagined.
And then of course you look at the rest of that show. It set up a great villain. The only person who was actually in control of this crazy world Loki found himself in. He acts and behaves exactly as someone who knows everything would. He taunts, he has fun, and he ultimately gives Loki a reasonable choice. Chaos, which could unravel all of time, or order, which means some must sacrifice.
And a choice is made. By... Loki? Other Loki. Different Loki. The same Loki?
That was a hell of a setup.
And then Ant-Man kills Kang.
(And the Kang actor is arrested [and eventually convicted] for assault.)
The Multiverse saga was already having a tough time, but to lose your villain... That's rough from a story perspective.
The other thing, going back to the Infinity Stones themselves is that you needed to nerf them somehow. We do get a Multiverse Infinity Stones story in What If...? with Ultron. So that story is also told.
No one is going to complain when the Infinity Stones don't show up in Doomsday or Secret Wars. But if they do we can point to Loki to point out how they don't always work in whatever magical thing we end up seeing, or point to how they already told the Multiverse stone story.
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MimicJar@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 140d
Actually we saw in Loki season 1 the Infinity stones exist in each universe and as the multiverse is infinite, so are the Infinity stones.
They're mostly used as paperweights.
Kowowow@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 140d
Then wouldn't everything be infinite surely there has to be a something that sets them apart
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 140d
I mean them having mystical powers seems to be pretty unique.
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 140d
I'm typing this on my Infinity Keyboard while sitting here in my Infinity Pajamas.
Keshara@piefed.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 140d
Wouldn't infinite universe accommodate infinite possibilities, which includes the items non-existance? So if they were definitively able to prove the stones exist across all existence, then that could be the differentiator?
MimicJar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
Yes, but the Infinity stones called dibs and the multiverse respects dibs.
NachBarcelona@piefed.social · 1 pts · 140d
My infinity poop
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 140d
Loki is probably the best thing to come out of the MCU. Great story, good fun, and good acting.
Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 140d
Yes, except until that point he (and the rest of the multiverse) didn't know that the infinity stones existed elsewhere and were being used as paperweights.
So the use of the word "infinity" to describe them couldn't have been a reference to how many of them there were.
eighty@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 140d
Side tangent but I felt like this one scene drastically (albeit not clear at the time) shifted the tone/direction for the rest of the MCU going forth - just for essentially a light chuckle and mild worldbuilding (illustrating the insignificance of the world/timelines ikik).
Looking back and seeing what's been (barely) done, I wonder if those writers would've gone with that same direction?
MimicJar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
The whole Multiverse saga has been bungled.
This scene was great at setting the stakes, the most powerful thing from the last saga are now paperweights. That was a great scene. Loki knew how powerful these stones were, he used one of them,m but now they are nothing. If I recall correctly this was after he tried to use his own magic. So it was confirmation that whatever this realm was, it didn't just work on him, it worked on the most powerful thing he could have imagined.
And then of course you look at the rest of that show. It set up a great villain. The only person who was actually in control of this crazy world Loki found himself in. He acts and behaves exactly as someone who knows everything would. He taunts, he has fun, and he ultimately gives Loki a reasonable choice. Chaos, which could unravel all of time, or order, which means some must sacrifice.
And a choice is made. By... Loki? Other Loki. Different Loki. The same Loki?
That was a hell of a setup.
And then Ant-Man kills Kang.
(And the Kang actor is arrested [and eventually convicted] for assault.)
The Multiverse saga was already having a tough time, but to lose your villain... That's rough from a story perspective.
The other thing, going back to the Infinity Stones themselves is that you needed to nerf them somehow. We do get a Multiverse Infinity Stones story in What If...? with Ultron. So that story is also told.
No one is going to complain when the Infinity Stones don't show up in Doomsday or Secret Wars. But if they do we can point to Loki to point out how they don't always work in whatever magical thing we end up seeing, or point to how they already told the Multiverse stone story.
SolidShake@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 140d
Yes. And infinity war only lasted 2 and a half hours.
spittingimage@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 140d
I drank an entire bottle of coke in the first act, which made the last act seem infinite.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 15 pts · 140d
The stones are finite; the power they grant is infinite.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 139d
but then why did they get destroyed? sounds like ∞ -1.
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 140d
I don't think they're called infinity stones due to the number of them. They provide infinite power when combined.
_g_be@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
No I think it's because they can be arranged in an ∞ figure
RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 140d
This is a shitty issue to raise and yet it isn't made out of literal shit
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 140d
They were forged in the fires of Mount Verizon.
webp@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 140d
≠ infinite stones
plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 140d
With an infinite universes with a set.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 140d
Yes and the infinity symbol takes up less space than a 5 digit number
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 139d
There's an infinite number of them in the multiverse
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
It's just a name. Think folk lore, most can't use them and those that could probably looked like they had infinite power.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 140d
aleph null stones.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
Power
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 140d
Each one is countably infinite
TootSweet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 140d
Infinity Stones are like Tether (the Cryptocurrency). Whenever they want to make more money, they can just make more of them.
generallynonsensical@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 140d